Tote pools.

[mikeynz]

Today's 2 meetings so far, very ordinary, could that be because of 2 meetings..........but contradicting that Friday nights 2 meeting looked a slight improvement, no Friday night rugby, could that be a factor?

[mikeynz]

Maybe purely my imagination, the quaddie at Addington was better, but today's figures up till now not flash.

[Brodie]

To be fair, when they are restricting punters to amounts that are getting lower than what they were,  then what do you expect punters to do??

Thought Entain initially had improved things for the TAB but they have actually got sirse in recent months despite what they will tell you!

Seriously they have no appetite for risk and are riding out their time till they can stop chucking the money into racing!

These odds surges etc. are a joke really when the maximum bet is $20!!!!!!
why would you bother!

Still they promote $1k @ $1.65 to win as being a big bet alert and worthy of mentioning lol.

Let the punters on TAB and increase your turnover!

[mikeynz]

I think Harness Racing have a small band of loyal supporters, but as time goes by that number will slowly dwindle, there are many meetings that simply have no appeal to people, no different to a lot of our Rugby in using a synergy, if that's the right word, it's happening there too.

Entain can't lose as long as they stay in for the long haul.

Edited yesterday at 03:15 AM by mikeynz

[Rangatira]

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

These odds surges etc. are a joke really when the maximum bet is $20!!!!!!
why would you bother!

It is a decent amount here in Hei Hei

You can get a whole school of under sized for a Wood Pigeon

Ain't life grand.

 

Edited yesterday at 03:48 AM by Rangatira

[Brodie]

19 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

It is a decent amount here in Hei Hei

You can get a whole school of under sized for a Wood Pigeon

Ain't life grand.

 

$20 is a pathetically small amount surely not worth the effort?

$20 may have been ok 20 years ago but what does it buy nowadays?

Certainly very little so does the Tab really believe they are doing fantastic things?

Have a look a the tote pools for the whole of NZ, shockingly small now! 

[Rangatira]

7 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Have a look a the tote pools for the whole of NZ, shockingly small now! 

Fixed odds the way to go I hear

40k bets ok even if they win

[Brodie]

12 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

Fixed odds the way to go I hear

40k bets ok even if they win

Yeah, they look after who they want to and others get victimised!

At the end of the day the TAB is doing major damage to the future of racing in NZ and they know it, but the ones making the calls wont be around.

[Nowornever]

2 hours ago, Brodie said:

Yeah, they look after who they want to and others get victimised!

Losing punters get preferential treatment. Always have and always will.

[Brodie]

10 minutes ago, Nowornever said:

Losing punters get preferential treatment. Always have and always will.

Would be good for spokesperson for the NZ TAB to actually front and justify what they are doing to harness racing!

It is just so hard to justify their policies if they are wanting to keep harness racing going as they are driving punters away rather than encouraging!

It all good though apparently cos the HRNZ CEO says so!

Delusional thinking.

[Nowornever]

17 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Delusional thinking.

Remember only 2% of their customers can generate a profit and those are the ones they are cutting out. Since the rise of social media they get a bit more heat for doing so now, but can not see them changing their position on it.

 Lots of backlash for the geo blocking bill as well.

[Brodie]

1 hour ago, Nowornever said:

Remember only 2% of their customers can generate a profit and those are the ones they are cutting out. Since the rise of social media they get a bit more heat for doing so now, but can not see them changing their position on it.

 Lots of backlash for the geo blocking bill as well.

So if only 2% of their customers generate a profit, the TaB thinks that is too high?

So we will only allow those that lose to wager with us?

So we get rid of the successful punters and that is ethically ok?

No one that bets with us is to win, we make it difficult for winning punters and encourage the 98% losing ones!

 

Edited yesterday at 08:47 AM by Brodie

[Nowornever]

Well those 2% could be doing 20% of the turnover hard to say.

Their marketing vs their actual inhouse policies are quite contradictory 

[TAB For Ever]

1 hour ago, Nowornever said:

ll those 2% could be doing 20% of the turnover hard to say.

 

Correct.....,.,a few years back , overall 2% of Punters were contributing 56% of Turnover !

[Rangatira]

22 hours ago, Nowornever said:

Losing punters get preferential treatment. Always have and always will.

and so they should, great contributors.

[Rangatira]

20 hours ago, Brodie said:

So we get rid of the successful punters and that is ethically ok?

Totally okay if on a case by case basis and never set in stone for life.

Restrictions are a fluid thing with some getting restrictions eased and in some cases lifted.

[Brodie]

22 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

Totally okay if on a case by case basis and never set in stone for life.

Restrictions are a fluid thing with some getting restrictions eased and in some cases lifted.

Well I am waiting Ranga?

They are getting tighter and pathetically low!

Edited 3 hours ago by Brodie

[Rangatira]

15 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Well I am waiting Ranga?

They are getting tighter and pathetically low!

Have you been in touch with them?

[Brodie]

1 hour ago, Rangatira said:

Have you been in touch with them?

Na, I am not on their Xmas card list nowadays!

Hardly think they are going to be taking any advice from Brodie or playing fair after all of this time?