Cockyaleg Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 19 hours ago, gambler said: Abusing the public. What's this all about. I hope he is picking up his dog poo while parked on council verges. No doubt wanganui club has provided him with a silver bucket and shovel I heard that too. Abusing members of the public going about their legal business on a pubic street? Has he not tarnished the industries image enough? He should not be handling any dogs at or outside the track. The area he frequents is NOT a dog designated area and if the public start making complaints in earnest it will again reflect badly on you all. He arrives grubby, makes a spectacle of himself, and has been seen giving the bird to participants entering the northern entrance. Yes, buckets provided by the club for a man that NEVER turns up to a club meeting. If I were a member, I would be pissed! If the manager's goal is to foster and encourage animosity, then well done, you are a total success. Roll on Monday, will be a full media circus.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I hear that some top dog was coming to meet with this member of the public last week. Was he given a white envelope to keep quite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Girl Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 16/06/2019 at 2:55 PM, Four shaw said: Court day Monday 24 ...I be travelling to attend good luck to all the honest people in greyhound racing ?? Good to hear you'll be there to show your support Four Shaw. It is a 'case review hearing' , I dont exactly know what that is but can tell you the witnesses are not required to attend and give evidence at this stage, obviously we are a while away from that. I haven't been in for a read for a while. Two things.. - there's alot of garbage being spouted in here from some passionate 'Cole haters'. Now I understand the anger and emotion, I really do, but it's pretty unbecoming behavior to be honest. Let's try and keep a level head and constructively concentrate our efforts on Cole... - and while reading the thread 'Tartan Shirt' i noticed it got locked right when someone asked a decent question... I think Mehe said something about Phillipa Morris was asked to do live baiting by B Cole but she refused, so what has she done wrong? Well I have an answer for that...she hasn't come forward and made a statement to SPCA about that incident, or her time while employed by Cole!! Thats what she's done wrong. Leaving those of us who are telling the truth to play the 'he said, we said' game, it's very upsetting to say the least! we could do with all the support we can get!! that goes for Andre P aswell! And anyone else out there, it's not too late to come forward!! The only possible excuse, apart from being gutless or weak, is that you are concerned about the image of Greyhound Racing, and I can understand that too, but let me say this, we are going to Court anyway, its Cole that is damaging Greyhound Racing's image, so let's deal with him the best we can while we've got the chance! While the SPCA and NZ law are on our side, because it's our only chance of some justice!! We are never going to get that from RIU or GRNZ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 How do you know that pip hasnt spoken to SPCA You are assuming that to be the case You came on here at one stage and said that cole was not going to be charged and you are so wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Girl Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Mehe said: How do you know that pip hasnt spoken to SPCA You are assuming that to be the case You came on here at one stage and said that cole was not going to be charged and you are so wrong You know what Mehe, you're right, I dont know for sure that Pip hasn't recently decided to come forward, so I've said my plea to other potential witnesses to come forward, now I'll lay off and see who comes out of the woodwork when it matters, but I really hope she has! Furthermore, I did NOT come on here and say Cole WONT be charged, rather I said Bret from SPCA couldn't tell me if he was confident on charges laid or not, and that he was concerned because some witnesses had withdrawn statements, I said that didn't fill me with much confidence! I was being cautiously realistic in my updates to the BOAY community, but Mehe if that was me being 'so wrong' then I was more than happy that I was wrong on that occasion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockyaleg Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, That Girl said: You know what Mehe, you're right, I dont know for sure that Pip hasn't recently decided to come forward, so I've said my plea to other potential witnesses to come forward, now I'll lay off and see who comes out of the woodwork when it matters, but I really hope she has! Furthermore, I did NOT come on here and say Cole WONT be charged, rather I said Bret from SPCA couldn't tell me if he was confident on charges laid or not, and that he was concerned because some witnesses had withdrawn statements, I said that didn't fill me with much confidence! I was being cautiously realistic in my updates to the BOAY community, but Mehe if that was me being 'so wrong' then I was more than happy that I was wrong on that occasion! Do you know when the full trial will begin, has an estimation given? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Girl Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cockyaleg said: Do you know when the full trial will begin, has an estimation given? No, not that I am aware of. Perhaps answers to those questions after this Monday. Bret from SPCA has been good keeping us fully updated so I will pass on anything in that regard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 ? that's totally great about Greg from SPCA being so informative. I'm know of a witness who made a statement to SPCA. Hasn't heard a word from Greg and is pulling out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mee2 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 That Girl, This poster is supported and used by several that can't post for reasons and a question that comes up over a barbie and beer or two is..Why! Should people like Pip Morris, Andre and little brother Andre etc that really have moved on and are outside the Rigged System care a dam about you and some that instigated this Circus initially.? It seems most in the C.D. at least support Cole , that is obvious as they race against him get thrashed by him and continue to handle dogs for the Man day in and Day out.. The whole sport is so sad from the Bottom up....I too have contacts that made statements to Brett and not one has been contacted to date by him or the Crown Law Prosecutors presently in charge. For well over two years not an acknowledement of any sort... Let's hope they have enough on Cole with available evidence to put the prick behind Bars.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mee2 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, mee2 said: That Girl, This poster is supported and used by several that can't post for reasons and a question that comes up over a barbie and beer or two is..Why! Should people like Pip Morris, Andre and little brother Andre etc that really have moved on and are outside the Rigged System care a dam about you and some that instigated this Circus initially.? It seems most in the C.D. at least support Cole , that is obvious as they race against him get thrashed by him and continue to handle dogs for the Man day in and Day out.. The whole sport is so sad from the Bottom up....I too have contacts that made statements to Brett and not one has been contacted to date by him or the Crown Law Prosecutors presently in charge. For well over two years not an acknowledement of any sort... Let's hope they have enough on Cole with available evidence to put the prick behind Bars.... Meant little Brother Darcy..Sam Lozell is a different kettle of fish as he should not have a trainers Licence at present..Why has he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, mee2 said: Meant little Brother Darcy..Sam Lozell is a different kettle of fish as he should not have a trainers Licence at present..Why has he? Is Sam a accomplice or accessory to the crime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, mee2 said: Sam Lozell is a different kettle of fish as he should not have a trainers Licence at present..Why has he? The easiest question to answer in a long time. Sam has his training licence because GRNZ has an inept Board. There are 7 seats (votes) on the current board & at least 4 of them had to vote for approval. The Board a few years ago awarded the "Foxton Fixer" a public training license, after he had first relinquished the license he held at the time, then admitted to a dishonest act (Gibbonator) before the JCA. The Board approved another training license for D. Stapleton not all that long ago. Public opinion was in an uproar after that decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, gambler said: Is Sam a accomplice or accessory to the crime Sam is live baiting in the photo's I've seen. Lisa was the trainer of record when the images were acquired, why hasn't she been charged by the RIU? If the Board or RIU thought they could cover all this up, they would be. The SPCA & Newshub have made sure this isn't covered up like it has been in the past.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 You have My Vote... I am a YES!!!!... and there is So Much more!!! Hannan is just so Predictable along with the Inept Board ( Just look at the wankers.....) Honestly.. bring them out in the open and WOW!!! What could be exposed... I dare them to come out and tell us what they are all about.. I DARE THEM..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four shaw Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, mee2 said: That Girl, This poster is supported and used by several that can't post for reasons and a question that comes up over a barbie and beer or two is..Why! Should people like Pip Morris, Andre and little brother Andre etc that really have moved on and are outside the Rigged System care a dam about you and some that instigated this Circus initially.? It seems most in the C.D. at least support Cole , that is obvious as they race against him get thrashed by him and continue to handle dogs for the Man day in and Day out.. The whole sport is so sad from the Bottom up....I too have contacts that made statements to Brett and not one has been contacted to date by him or the Crown Law Prosecutors presently in charge. For well over two years not an acknowledement of any sort... Let's hope they have enough on Cole with available evidence to put the prick behind Bars.... I don’t agree that most in c.d support cole the opposite I see ....they handle because they got dogs off him ..or are getting wages under or over the table ...those people will have egg on there face??do they condone live baiting or something unbelievable?....like I said before do the crime do the time....plenty of we’ll breed dogs still has to revert to under arm tactics what’s it all about?.money ,big noting?..I’m better than everyone,,what a nasty man teaching kids how...rock on SPCA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 "they handle because they got dogs off him ..or are getting wages under or over the table" . So they are as bad as Cole? Greyhound Racing needs a "HUGE" Overhaul...if it is to survive for the Loving Owners and Their Dogs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockyaleg Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, cichlid said: "they handle because they got dogs off him ..or are getting wages under or over the table" . So they are as bad as Cole? Greyhound Racing needs a "HUGE" Overhaul...if it is to survive for the Loving Owners and Their Dogs... Just a thought....If Cole goes down which is a possibility, then the dogs have to go somewhere. Now I'm a wee bit cynical about the hangers on, could it be that they will all be first in the queue to reap the benefits of his demise? After all there are some nice dogs in the kennel who will be looking for new trainers. On the flip side could it be that none of the vermin give a shite about live baiting, seems the only two options that make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Girl Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, gambler said: ? that's totally great about Greg from SPCA being so informative. I'm know of a witness who made a statement to SPCA. Hasn't heard a word from Greg and is pulling out ? the man heading the investigation for SPCA is called Bret, not Greg. Pulling out? Tell them to contact Bret at Palmy SPCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four shaw Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Witnesses making statements then retracting how can they do this?..if so they should be charged surely...why retract intimidation......paid off....I don’t understand...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It's been 3 years in July. People have in good faith come forward and made a statement. Some have not heard a word from SPCA. Why now should they suddenly jump . Incur incredible expenses. Some are even out of the sport it's dragged on so long. To long. To late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupiri Wonder Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I totally agree with gambler.If anyone took the time to give a written statement to SPCA in good faith,in the hope that it would strengthen their case,and SPCA couldn't even be bothered to get in touch or give courtesy of a reply,then sod it,sod them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 They were told at the time if they are needing any more info they will contact them so why would they contact them if they dont need any more info off that particular person They want true facts not info from 9 plus years ago even tho its helpful They want stuff of late 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockyaleg Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Mehe said: They were told at the time if they are needing any more info they will contact them so why would they contact them if they dont need any more info off that particular person They want true facts not info from 9 plus years ago even tho its helpful They want stuff of late Agree. They want statements that are relevant, post rule changes (2012), statements that can be backed up, statements that support the rule of law. Any statements outside a specific time frame that cannot be corroborated just add invalid noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 He's got a full team in on Monday. Life carries on for Brendon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four shaw Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, gambler said: He's got a full team in on Monday. Life carries on for Brendon. Is that a full team of lawyers ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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