The Definitive Answer To Becks Nairn and Other Conspiracists

[curious]

8 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Are you serious?  Just have a look at the rules for home kill beef!!!

I don't see the connection between rules for killing stock for human consumption and euthanising horses if that's what you are talking about. 

Edited September 26 by curious

[Chief Stipe]

2 hours ago, curious said:

I don't see the connection between rules for killing stock for human consumption and euthanising horses if that's what you are talking about. 

Who is euthanisng the horses?

What method is being used?

Is the process supervised?

[curious]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Who is euthanisng the horses?

What method is being used?

Is the process supervised?

I've no idea. Do you know? There are numerous people who do that but I don't really see how that relates to the thread topic.

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, curious said:

I've no idea. Do you know? There are numerous people who do that but I don't really see how that relates to the thread topic.

The topic is about Nairn who dissects eunthanised horses.  Don't you see the connection?  Part of the thread shows a video of the "new horse dissection and therapy laboratory".  Loose use of the term laboratory.

[Chief Stipe]

I just happened to see a video Nairn did showing the spine of a 4yr old horse.  She argued that the fact the growth plates in the vertebrae haven't closed is evidence of pathology caused by race training.  However the science says that growth plates don't fully close until 5 to 6 years!!!

[curious]

18 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I just happened to see a video Nairn did showing the spine of a 4yr old horse.  She argued that the fact the growth plates in the vertebrae haven't closed is evidence of pathology caused by race training.  However the science says that growth plates don't fully close until 5 to 6 years!!!

Did she say that the lack of closure was pathological itself and due to the early training, or that the intense training prior to closure could cause pathology, e.g. back strain?

[Chief Stipe]

56 minutes ago, curious said:

Did she say that the lack of closure was pathological itself and due to the early training, or that the intense training prior to closure could cause pathology, e.g. back strain?

Not clear what she said.  My point is given the alleged age of the horse closure wouldn't be expected regardless.  

In any case Nairn is not qualified to make any diagnosis.

[Steven B]

Attitude: Cold, Defensive, and Running from Accountability — Becks Nairn

Becks Nairn showed a serious lack of feeling in the way she responded to the Hanmer accident, where a young girl was kicked in the face by a horse. A child’s nose was smashed. Her father had to carry her, bleeding, for over a kilometre. And what did Nairn offer? Not a shred of compassion. Not a hint of concern. Just a pile of excuses.

She claimed the guide “froze.” She said the father “took off.” She spoke of regulations and procedures as if they somehow justified doing nothing. But where was the humanity? Where was the apology? Where was the basic decency to say, “This should never have happened”?

Instead, she treated it like a PR crisis. It didn’t seem to matter whether the child recovered—only that the business reputation stayed intact. And that’s not new. Nairn has had business failures before, quietly swept under the carpet. She moves quickly, evades responsibility, and never gets close enough to be held accountable. You don’t get the truth. You get fragments—filtered, trimmed, and self-aggrandising.

That article was sent to me by a woman from the south, and I was enraged. Not just by the accident, but by Nairn’s attitude. The coldness. The lack of ownership. It makes you wonder what else has been masked. I couldn’t help but laugh when she called herself a “director.” A tin-pot trekking enterprise she couldn’t manage. Then she quotes herself as working with “the best in the world”—despite having no formal education. How grandiose can you get?

This wasn’t leadership. It was evasion dressed up as professionalism. And the public deserves better.I  There is more to post at a later stage

[Chief Stipe]

On 27/09/2025 at 5:09 AM, curious said:

I don't see the connection between rules for killing stock for human consumption and euthanising horses if that's what you are talking about. 

 

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Unlicensed Equine Dissections to be held at NZ Facility under the umbrella of Promotional Framing and Equi Ed

 

 Dear veterinarians, regulatory bodies and all equine professionals, and fellow thinking Equestrians

 

 An unlicensed equine dissections program, being carried out by a self-declared anatomical educator Becks Nairn, who is not a qualified veterinarian, is underway at a facility in New Zealand known as the Equine Research and Learning Centre

 

. On 2 October 2025 Esme Whinray wrote on her Equine Sports Therapy Facebook page (shared with the Equine Research and Learning Centre) that the facility will at some point play a part in the post-mortem research Becks is conducting. It is a dated confession of being involved in operations. Why This Matters The plant boasts of self-reliance and practically facilitates the anatomical activity of Becks Nairn 

 

The results of Becks Nairn are advanced as educational reality, unqualified, unreviewed, and uncontrolled. Her set up was previously reviewed by MPI and approved by them - but this is a new piece of evidence of escalation and institutional shielding. Today her work is taught to professionals in NZ, Scotland and Ireland, with the support of Equi-Ed, which funds the Christchurch-based centre and is a Rural Scheme affiliate. What started as amateur workshops has been advanced as professional training- uncontrolled. This allows dissection to be a business of amateurs and possibly to inspire others to do the same .

 

 WARNING The Arcano Diagnosis A Solemn Infringement. Becks Nairn publicly reported on a podcast with Duncan Garner that she had done an autopsy on an Arcano, a grey Standardbred, and alleged that he had been fridge gassed. She made at least three such diagnoses, twice on her Facebook page, and she said she had forwarded supporting evidence to the CEO of Standardbred Racing NZ. So far, no pathology or peer-reviewed evidence has been demonstrated. This is not anecdotal, it is a publicly claimed medical assertion, and repeated by someone lacking qualifications. 

 

Conducting autopsies and making diagnostic statements are a grave violation of the standards of veterinary care and regulation

 

Laundering through Dr. Carol Shwetz. The post refers to the relationship of Becks with licensed veterinarian, Dr. Carol Shwetz, as instrumental in the development of her anatomy. Nairn is using Dr Shwetz to promote herself and give her credibility . she does not have . This is non-formal supervision, otherwise known as rhetorical laundering. No record exists that Dr. Shwetz manages, verifies, or legally controls the dissections held at the NZ facility This is a call for transparency, oversight, and accountability. Those Becks results you heard about--who sanctioned them, who checks them, what are their qualifications. I have the post, the time stamp and the inconsistencies. In case you have seen such shielding somewhere, raise your voice. This isn’t education. It is official collusion. And it’s happening here Please Note if this is not the right place to post this information please remove it

[Chief Stipe]

@curious instead of counting whip strikes perhaps you should get onto challenging Nairn and her fellow nutters?