Fred Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Was sure busy at the sales last night -bought 12 of the 70 sold. If he keeps up that rate it would be 80 odd from the first session. Perhaps he thought there was value early on. Most notable was the absence of many Australian trainers that used to feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanturk Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 the industry needs him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Sorry excuse my ignorance who is Wee Willie Winkie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diceman's Been Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Clarke Gayford you idiot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Diceman's Been said: Clarke Gayford you idiot It was an honest question. I haven't been following the sales too busy trying to fight fires elsewhere. If you made that comment elsewhere to a Chief Stipe you would be out for 20 riding days. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diceman's Been Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Wee Willie Winkie puts his finger up,All the other buyers think, "David's such a cock Like him or loath him, the man is hell bent On being Number One again, at buying up the stock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: It was an honest question. I haven't been following the sales too busy trying to fight fires elsewhere. If you made that comment elsewhere to a Chief Stipe you would be out for 20 riding days. Hi Chief, David Ellis is the person being referred to. Cheers. Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Double R said: Hi Chief, David Ellis is the person being referred to. Cheers. Robert. Thanks. Should have guessed. I hope he has pre-sold all his syndicates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Sorry excuse my ignorance who is Wee Willie Winkie? Te Akau's David EllisThe nick name of course comes from his style of bidding -winking at the auctioneer rather than waving a catalogue or putting a hand up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 42 minutes ago, Fred said: Te Akau's David EllisThe nick name of course comes from his style of bidding -winking at the auctioneer rather than waving a catalogue or putting a hand up. Both the catalogue and the hand might be too heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Vanturk said: the industry needs him . Not really. The industry needs a major Syndicator/Training establishment. If Te Akau was to close up shop tomorrow, NZB and the big stud(s) would simply do another deal with someone and set up a new Syndicator/Training establishment. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanturk Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Brando said: Not really. The industry needs a major Syndicator/Training establishment. If Te Akau was to close up shop tomorrow, NZB and the big stud(s) would simply do another deal with someone and set up a new Syndicator/Training establishment. are you serious or you taking the piss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diceman's Been Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 In all seriousness, I hope David is ok. He looked like a cooked tomato on the TV early afternoon in the Karaka heat, and hasn't been sighted since with Jamie buying for him on a couple of occasions since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 My question for Yarners.... can someone actually provide me with the economic rationale behind the huge purchases (amount paid and volume of horses) by Te Akau at Karaka? I totally get it if we’re talking about racing for Australian prizemoney but to spend huge amounts when the base race is worth $10k, doesn’t add up? Would be keen to know people’s theories. Star Thoroughbreds, Triple Crown and Darby Racing have had great results but you don’t see them spending gazillions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshu Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Say feeling excatly ,I under the impression he is buying for others as a agent maybe.Surely he cannot justify buying all these and keeping them. Maybe turning them over at your ready to run sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopia Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Can't you work it out for yourself? NZ Bloodstock are financing him. The vendors of the horses he buys are paid by NZ Bloodstock. He doesn't pay NZB until the horses are all sold on into syndicates. I thought that was obvious. Lets see NZ Bloodstock deny it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Oh yes, I can work it out but the NZB support was not the initial direction of my question...I think it goes a lot further than just NZB... it good point... I have my own thoughts but I’m interested to know what other Yarners theories are because at face value, there is no economic sense to the endless purchases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MaltedMilkshake said: Oh yes, I can work it out but the NZB support was not the initial direction of my question...I think it goes a lot further than just NZB... it good point... I have my own thoughts but I’m interested to know what other Yarners theories are because at face value, there is no economic sense to the endless purchases. Haven't you noticed there is not a lot of economic sense in any investment in racing whether it be $1.4m for a Savabeel or $1 a place on some nag at Warracknabeel? we do it(each to his own scale) because we are positive/hopeful about the likelihood of success. Like him or hate him David will have confidence he can place every one of those animals and with the big prices probably has them sold before the hammer falls(the vendor studs will retain shares in at least some I imagine). If nobody wanted to take a risk there wouldn't be a racing game would there? In my limited dealings with him he was always a pleasure to deal with and so was Karyn. Mind you I had a share in a $46k one not a $1.4m job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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