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RAD's Weir Ruling in full here.


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I usually enjoy the banter between the two leading racing forums.....it gets a little heated at times but a bucket of cold water usually has the desired effect BUT I must admit to being somewhat bemused when the obnoxious Head Shriller gave Lee Freedman a serve for having an opinion on the Weir situation.

This is the same Shriller who has an expert opinion on absolutely anything and everything.

 

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1 hour ago, The Diceman's Been said:

I'm not sure about a ring in Fred. There were other matters that he transgressed, but does that disqualify him from having an opinion?

Yes, definitely a ring in -the stable was taken over by his brother who voiced so many opinions there was no room for anyone else to have one. In fact he had more opinions than old Thomas.

 

 

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Fred, if you are saying that having a black mark against someone automatically disqualifies them from having an opinion, then you need to readjust that biased attitude, in my humble opinion. ?

Let's start with Chris Waller. His racing manager shafted the nicest group of owners you will ever find, and I mean shafted in a very underhand deceptive manner. Waller sacks him, sends him on an overseas jaunt but guess who is now back in the stable fold - very quietly. Does that stop the press asking his opinion on a daily basis?

My point being that everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I found it very hypocritical that Feedman is given a serve by someone who loves providing wisdom, wanted or not, on a regular basis.

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Sorry TDB, I'm interrupting here, however, I see on the Dr's Surgery channel [RC] a poster called Tim Vince is saying 'No Video'.....there is no video........do these people not read the official reports, and I mean official, how the hell did the Feds get a 'still photo' then? The same photo they presented to Weir and he refused to comment on?........the Cops and the Stewards have said ''they don't have a video at this time''........why would they say this time?....how then is there are a photo?.....and they used the words FEDS.....as in our Federal Police HQ Canberra, the Nations Capital, specialising in cross border events?.....oh whoa is me, help me out here, is there something in the water over there?

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1 hour ago, The Diceman's Been said:

Fred, if you are saying that having a black mark against someone automatically disqualifies them from having an opinion, then you need to readjust that biased attitude, in my humble opinion. ?

Let's start with Chris Waller. His racing manager shafted the nicest group of owners you will ever find, and I mean shafted in a very underhand deceptive manner. Waller sacks him, sends him on an overseas jaunt but guess who is now back in the stable fold - very quietly. Does that stop the press asking his opinion on a daily basis?

My point being that everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I found it very hypocritical that Feedman is given a serve by someone who loves providing wisdom, wanted or not, on a regular basis.

I have NEVER suggested that someone could not voice an opinion -I don't know why you suggest that.

My reference was referring to the stones/glasshouses situation

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Below is the 2006 RVL Stewards report into Weir's apparent tubing...and McClean's guilty az behaviour...

It shows these two should have been closely watched...as in having permanent camera's installed in their stables....they do it on Fishing Boats now...

what's the prob in an industry that requires INTEGRITY 100% of the time?

54. Mr Weir, regarding the extraordinary lengths you went to hide the drenching gear from Monaghan and Dunn, the Stewards find it remarkable and disappointing that an experienced trainer such as you would go along with such a ridiculous and half-baked plan. 

Assuming your evidence about what actually occurred in the stable was accepted, this whole matter could have been avoided if you had not acted in such a foolhardy manner. 

The Stewards also find it disappointing that when you had the opportunity to explain why you acted in this way on race day, instead of telling the whole truth, you offered a completely improbable explanation: that explanation being that you, an experienced trainer, clearly familiar with Stewards’ procedures and the conduct of stable inspections, decided to hide drenching gear of your own volition, because you didn’t wish to cause Mr McLean any “trouble”. 

Perhaps this misleading evidence was itself designed also to keep Mr McLean out of trouble, but again we reiterate that you were a contributor to your own troubles on this day.

55. Mr McLean, I have already gone over the concerns the Stewards have about some of the evidence you have given in this inquiry. Unfortunately for you, your involvement in this matter is not over. It seems likely to the Stewards that charges are warranted in respect of some of your evidence. If this is the case it will be a matter for the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board to determine. In any event we will review the relevant evidence and you will be advised within

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20 hours ago, The Centaur said:

The ruling specifically on a number of occasions stated that Weir was not being accused of using electric shock equipment.

So what do one of the many fake news providors do?

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/381885/trainer-s-four-year-ban-for-using-electric-shocks-on-horses

Amazing what a bit of persuasion some may call it a threat can do. Check out the two headlines above and below.

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3 hours ago, Rowley Mile said:

Sorry TDB, I'm interrupting here, however, I see on the Dr's Surgery channel [RC] a poster called Tim Vince is saying 'No Video'.....there is no video........do these people not read the official reports, and I mean official, how the hell did the Feds get a 'still photo' then? The same photo they presented to Weir and he refused to comment on?........the Cops and the Stewards have said ''they don't have a video at this time''........why would they say this time?....how then is there are a photo?.....and they used the words FEDS.....as in our Federal Police HQ Canberra, the Nations Capital, specialising in cross border events?.....oh whoa is me, help me out here, is there something in the water over there?

Don't go picking on our water .

You be careful over there cobber.........just saying.


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