Thomass Posted Friday at 03:19 AM Posted Friday at 03:19 AM Must be over 10 years since Ralphy called the handicapper 'the most corrupt person in racing" and got smashed with a massive fine...a bit like Dummy Both still refusing interviews....and free loading on the NZ Racing Industry...thinking the world owes them a living At least Dummy tells his son to front meanwhile..over in the NRL/AFL/NBA et f in el...REFUSE to be interviewed by the media and massive fines/suspensions here you come get in the real world boys...drop the sulky bottom lips you're still kicking and start talking failing that NZTR should also get in the real sporting world and make interviews compulsory...pretty simple real world stuff Quote
curious Posted Friday at 03:24 AM Posted Friday at 03:24 AM (edited) The industry doesn't employ them though nor pay them. How do you think it would go down if it were made a requirement of a trainer's licence? Edited Friday at 03:28 AM by curious 1 Quote
Thomass Posted Friday at 03:53 AM Author Posted Friday at 03:53 AM 20 minutes ago, curious said: The industry doesn't employ them though nor pay them. How do you think it would go down if it were made a requirement of a trainer's licence? yep whatever will work EPL coaches are paid by the owners not the FA obviously but are required to front by the FA who pass any new rules...such as a recent half time coach interview trial...that they can turn down at their discretion...not the post match though Quote
Chief Stipe Posted Friday at 04:50 AM Posted Friday at 04:50 AM Who cares? They'll talk in unbelievable cliches anyway. I'd rather see more pre-race vision of the horses. Quote
Murray Fish Posted Friday at 06:18 AM Posted Friday at 06:18 AM 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: I'd rather see more pre-race vision of the horses. x 1000% But I *Know* that is never going to happen except for the odd meeting.... it can't happen because there is no strategy in play to do that properly! then you have the Directors ( who I admire technically), but they don't know how to set cameras in decent places! as in seeing the arse end of a horse heading into the distance.. I could rave on for a while on that subject! Quote
Murray Fish Posted Friday at 06:20 AM Posted Friday at 06:20 AM Based on the provided text, here is a summary and an analysis of the writer's perceived personality, style, and intellect. Summary of the Article The writer criticizes two figures in New Zealand racing (nicknamed "Ralphy" and "Dummy") for their longstanding refusal to give media interviews, despite being fined for it in the past. They accuse them of freeloading off the industry. The writer contrasts this with major professional sports leagues (NRL, AFL, NBA), where refusing media commitments leads to severe penalties. The core argument is that NZ Thoroughbred Racing (NZTR) should adopt similar compulsory interview rules to align with the "real sporting world." Analysis of the Writer's Personality Confrontational & Blunt: They do not mince words, using terms like "corrupt," "freeloading," and "sulky bottom lips." Frustrated & Impatient: There's a clear sense of exasperation over a situation that has lasted "over 10 years." Cynical & Disdainful: They view the subjects as having an entitled mindset ("thinking the world owes them a living"). Authoritarian: Believes in strict, enforceable rules to compel compliance, showing little sympathy for the individuals' perspectives. Analysis of the Writer's Style Informal & Colloquial: The style is more akin to a rant or a passionate social media post than formal journalism. It uses nicknames ("Ralphy," "Dummy"), slang ("get in the real world boys"), and fragmented sentences. Provocative: Language is chosen to provoke a reaction and express strong disapproval (e.g., "most corrupt person," "freeloading"). Comparitive: Builds its argument by drawing a direct contrast to the policies of major, successful sports leagues. Repetitive for Emphasis: The phrase "real world" is used three times to hammer home the central point about adopting mainstream standards. Analysis of the Writer's Intellect Practical & Worldly: The argument is grounded in a practical observation of how other major sports organizations operate. The intellect here is applied, not theoretical. Industry-Knowledgeable: They assume reader familiarity with a decade-old scandal and niche figures, suggesting deep involvement in or following of the NZ racing industry. Persuasive in a Direct Manner: While not academic, the writer uses a clear, cause-and-effect structure: Other sports punish this behavior, so should we. The intellect is focused on efficacy and precedent rather than nuance. Lacks Nuance/Emotional Intelligence: The style prioritizes forceful argument over balanced analysis. There is no exploration of why the figures refuse interviews or consideration of potential complexities, which a more detached intellectual analysis might include. Overall Impression: The writer comes across as a seasoned, frustrated insider in the racing industry. Their style is aggressively opinionated, their intellect is practical and precedent-driven, and their primary goal is to effect change by shaming individuals and the governing body into adopting stricter, more conventional policies. Quote
Thomass Posted Friday at 09:59 AM Author Posted Friday at 09:59 AM Oh ffs give it a break It wasnt moi who used "corrupt" that was Ralphy And you want 'balanced'? That's Ralphy with a chip on both shoulders "nuance"...I'll give AI that where the sun dont shine...f in robots back at ya Quote
Thomass Posted Friday at 10:11 AM Author Posted Friday at 10:11 AM 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Who cares? They'll talk in unbelievable cliches anyway. I'd rather see more pre-race vision of the horses. Oh well for experienced horsemen such as yourself who can distinguish a fit line from a plimsoll line then yes For mug punters like moi...who thrive on hearing a trainer tell us "neddy has trained in blinkers and improved out of sight" rather than having to guess, then no Recently the trainers association pleaded with trainers to "dress proper, talk proper and shine a light on the industry with a professional approach' What they said, just like the rest of the racing world Quote
curious Posted Friday at 12:30 PM Posted Friday at 12:30 PM Did it ever occur to you @Thomass that one of the reasons you might be a mug punter is that you let gossip from trainers influence your assessment of a horse's chance? 1 Quote
Thomass Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago First of all I'd like to thank CS for putting my posts on 'moderation' Soz missed this in all of the hazzze...Yes when I said "mug" I didn't really mean moi...of course...DOH Taking examples... OHOPE WINS, last start winner and Wexford decide to adopt BO (first time) A very simple example of a punter asking the question 'wtf would they apply blinkers after a winning run if they didn't think it would improve her performance'? Sure enough post race Doyle said "helped her concentrate no end" Interesting though she was still running in somewhat and he couldn't go for her (flank whip with a double movement initially contacting the flank by marking the stronger hit) until very late and got up on the post with an impressive acceleration 1 Quote
Pete Lane Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Thomass said: First of all I'd like to thank CS for putting my posts on 'moderation' Soz missed this in all of the hazzze...Yes when I said "mug" I didn't really mean moi...of course...DOH Taking examples... OHOPE WINS, last start winner and Wexford decide to adopt BO (first time) A very simple example of a punter asking the question 'wtf would they apply blinkers after a winning run if they didn't think it would improve her performance'? Sure enough post race Doyle said "helped her concentrate no end" Interesting though she was still running in somewhat and he couldn't go for her (flank whip with a double movement initially contacting the flank by marking the stronger hit) until very late and got up on the post with an impressive acceleration Still handing them out AFTER the race I see. Quote
Thomass Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago STILL sucking lemons I see I'd recommend getting into the MYER...less acidic and more palatable for upset tummy wummys didums As I've said many times before, any gear change can be factored into form analysis...especially BO's For long term lemon suckers ..if one has ID'd a competitive horse ( i.e your rating system) at a value price...I also apply an extra few units depending on what type of gear of course unlucky for you...the first 3/4 had blinkers ON today...2 first timers Quote
Pete Lane Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 46 minutes ago, Thomass said: STILL sucking lemons I see I'd recommend getting into the MYER...less acidic and more palatable for upset tummy wummys didums As I've said many times before, any gear change can be factored into form analysis...especially BO's For long term lemon suckers ..if one has ID'd a competitive horse ( i.e your rating system) at a value price...I also apply an extra few units depending on what type of gear of course unlucky for you...the first 3/4 had blinkers ON today...2 first timers Still tipping winners after the event I see. I'd recommend posting your picks before a race - a novel approach that is probably beyond you. Quote
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