Cockyaleg Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 This arrived this morning passing through several hands before reading. This is a very interesting document relevant to a case currently before the courts. As the GRNZ is a member of Greyhound Australasia and so is subject to the collective rules of that organisation, the penalty in this particular case MUST reflect on any future decisions made when looking to cases of a similar nature. Now it is true that tanned sheepskin is permitted for use as a training lure here in NZ, BUT only a tanned sheepskin. Raw skins or any other part of an animal is NOT. This penalty is dated June of this year, it is the most recent precedent available to the adjudicators when making comparisons. Your thoughts.http://radb.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Media_Release_LRR42.18a_LRR42.18b_Tim_Noy-1.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwigreys Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Cockyaleg said: This arrived this morning passing through several hands before reading. This is a very interesting document relevant to a case currently before the courts. As the GRNZ is a member of Greyhound Australasia and so is subject to the collective rules of that organisation, the penalty in this particular case MUST reflect on any future decisions made when looking to cases of a similar nature. Now it is true that tanned sheepskin is permitted for use as a training lure here in NZ, BUT only a tanned sheepskin. Raw skins or any other part of an animal is NOT. This penalty is dated June of this year, it is the most recent precedent available to the adjudicators when making comparisons. Your thoughts.http://radb.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Media_Release_LRR42.18a_LRR42.18b_Tim_Noy-1.pdf Tim Noy obviously wasn’t a protected person like the other one, hence why he’s still racing dogs and the other has a lifetime ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 If GRNZ actually wants to put an end to live (or dead) baiting, than this is the kind of decisions which need to be handed down, in each & every instance. Wet bus tickets are not a deterrent to those who rake in $2M a year in stakes money. The same can be said for $300 fines, which are obviously not a deterrent, for producing an overweight/underweight dog for the 117th time, when you're raking in over 1M a year in stakes. I believe there needs to be balance in penalties which are handed down. Someone with 100 dogs & $1M a year in earnings should not receive the same fine (dollar wise) as a hobby trainer, with 3 dogs & 6 wins a year on average. I mentioned it before & I'll do so again, fines should be handed down as a percentage of the previous years earnings. That way a fine could be used as a deterrent, not a laugh for the big kennels & a week of bread & water for the little trainer, when the same infraction has occurred. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Excellent. Let's hope it happens to Cole and the protected baby Sam. You don't mess around in Australia. Good on them. Hang on I got a bus ticket. Let's wet it for grnz to use on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four shaw Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Greyhound racing. It’s all about taking chances....good and bad ...cole wasn’t happy ?...with what he had ..too greedy took the gamble an has been caught out hence he’s got to pay the penalty.......that’s life all of NZ Watching ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockyaleg Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Kiwigreys said: Tim Noy obviously wasn’t a protected person like the other one, hence why he’s still racing dogs and the other has a lifetime ban Protected species or not, the current case has no precedent in NZ. So, when looking at prosecuting and sentencing the precedents set in Australia must be followed. Greyhound Australasia would be horrified if NZ chose to ignore the rules signed up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 The most stupid decision I have ever read, 50yrs in, and hung for a sheep skin.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockyaleg Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, aquaman said: The most stupid decision I have ever read, 50yrs in, and hung for a sheep skin.? I thought the penalty was extremely harsh, but the rule was widely publicised and has been in existence for quite sometime. My point was, if a life ban for using a sheepskin in training is the precedent, could a proven live or dead baiting charge be argued down to a lesser penalty? My view is no, and the penalty should apply to all involved. After all everyone involved profited from stakes, wages, and the punt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four shaw Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Cockyaleg said: I thought the penalty was extremely harsh, but the rule was widely publicised and has been in existence for quite sometime. My point was, if a life ban for using a sheepskin in training is the precedent, could a proven live or dead baiting charge be argued down to a lesser penalty? My view is no, and the penalty should apply to all involved. After all everyone involved profited from stakes, wages, and the punt. A precedent has been set ,like I’ve said before take the gamble pay the price everyone knows the rules ,,,too late to cry an say I didn’t know ,,for the going forward of greyhound racing hands up ....a picture tells a is worth a thousand words !,,,,,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four shaw Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Sorry a picture is worth a thousand WORDS LOL ......in this case a lot of pictures ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Thank Christ Pippas going home. Can un mute races Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, gambler said: Thank Christ Pippas going home. Can un mute races Obviously didnt have the races muted if you knew she was going home ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Unfortunately you have to listen now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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