barryb Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 I was there and after the first I was surprised they continued on. I am guessing because it was Amatuers they continued with the jumps. Very heavy rain and the horses and riders were covered in muck when they came back in. Quote
Dark Beau Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 Another management cock-up you mean! Too much sand put on, resulting in too much kick back, hence the poor visibility. Disgraceful. Now consider how much it has cost all of the participants (tens of thousands I would suggest) simply because of mismanagement. When will they ever learn? Sack the idiots is my suggestion. 1 Quote
barryb Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 With the amount of rain about, no other meeting in NZ would have even got off the ground, so to blame the sand of the track is a bit much. The fact the track was sanded was the very reason the meeting could even be considered today. Te Rapa of old would have been a quagmire. Quote
Dark Beau Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Well we will just have to agree to disagree. Personally I prefer to go with what the Stipe said today and what was reported a couple of weeks ago. In both instances it was stated that too much sand had been applied! By the way, how much rain have they really had? Since midnight until now, the official data is only 4.6mm! At Cambridge yesterday looked fine to me! Had it rained all week? Edited June 3, 2018 by Dark Beau Quote
Chief Stipe Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 They've had 9mm since midnight half of that in the last hour. Raining now and more to come. Te Rapa is stuffed and I've been saying that for about 4 years. However abandonments will happen and are budgeted for. 1 Quote
mardigras Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 9mm does not a quagmire make. Was there an extra150mm during the week? 1 Quote
barryb Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, mardigras said: 9mm does not a quagmire make. Was there an extra150mm during the week? Come on man, I thought you were intelligent. I said the old Te Rapa, which would have been a heavy 11 from rain that happened 2 weeks ago. Todays rain would have finished it off before it even started. its been solid heavy rain since 9am and has not stopped, in fact its got a lot heavier in the last hour. I am sitting at home with lights on as its so dark, as I said in a previous post, no other venue in NZ would have gone ahead with the current weather either. Brady said with the rail out 12 mtrs today they are on newer ground and the sand hasn't worked into the surface enough yet in that part of the track. The rail is out so far due to Te Rapa racing again next Sat. Quote
Turny Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) I think the track is completely stuffed - but they are not alone Gotta feel for Avondale - when will they wake up - ridiculous decisions being made Let's hope the Ellerslie work is good in the long term as Northern racing is hurting big time - Counties and The Rapa now summer tracks Edited June 3, 2018 by Turny Quote
Chief Stipe Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, mardigras said: 9mm does not a quagmire make. Was there an extra150mm during the week? It's the rate of fall. Large amount in a couple of hours on ground that would already be at water capacity. Hasn't been a lot of drying lately. Quote
barryb Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Turny said: I think the track is completely stuffed - but they are not alone Gotta feel for Avondale - when will they wake up - ridiculous decisions being made Let's hope the Ellerslie work is good in the long term as Northern racing is hurting big time Its the first rain related abandonment at Te Rapa I can remember in a very long time, so not sure where you are coming from there. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 I'd go so far to say even an AWT would have been abandoned. It is an extreme weather event. Slow moving low - dumped 30mm on us in Whangarei last 24 hours. Auckland copped it last night and this morning. Now in Hamilton. Quote
barryb Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I'd go so far to say even an AWT would have been abandoned. It is an extreme weather event. Slow moving low - dumped 30mm on us in Whangarei last 24 hours. Auckland copped it last night and this morning. Now in Hamilton. For sure, the right call was made to abandon racing. it got significantly worse in the last 10 mins, now torrential. 1 Quote
Brown fox Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 TAB could have been a bit more forgiving also.Had a 7 horse multi any 4 /5 or all 7 cost $57. First 2 missed but only got back $6 WTF 1 Quote
Weasel Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, barryb said: For sure, the right call was made to abandon racing. it got significantly worse in the last 10 mins, now torrential. looking ahead, racing scheduled for Te Rapa on Saturday...rain expected every day through Wednesday..I wonder if the TAB will offer a market on abandonment? Quote
Poisoned Dwarf Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 The Gods of Rain acted, for they saw it as a mark of disrespect that a race honouring the late Dr Alexander McGregor-Grant be run anywhere other than Ellerslie. 2 Quote
barryb Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Weasel said: looking ahead, racing scheduled for Te Rapa on Saturday...rain expected every day through Wednesday..I wonder if the TAB will offer a market on abandonment? Thurs, Fri & Sat all fine, it will go ahead. Sand based track, drains in 1 day of no rain. Quote
mardigras Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Just now, Chief Stipe said: It's the rate of fall. Large amount in a couple of hours on ground that would already be at water capacity. Hasn't been a lot of drying lately. You're kidding right. 9mm in 10 mins with out a lot of prior rain is nothing. Simply because 9mm is nothing. The amount of prior rain quantity had not been indicated - which I asked about. Edited June 3, 2018 by mardigras 1 Quote
Poisoned Dwarf Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Dark Beau said: Sand pit. LOL Raisedinasandpit didn't help by crashing in the last race 1 Quote
Wolfman Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, barryb said: Come on man, I thought you were intelligent. I said the old Te Rapa, which would have been a heavy 11 from rain that happened 2 weeks ago. Todays rain would have finished it off before it even started. its been solid heavy rain since 9am and has not stopped, in fact its got a lot heavier in the last hour. I am sitting at home with lights on as its so dark, as I said in a previous post, no other venue in NZ would have gone ahead with the current weather either. Brady said with the rail out 12 mtrs today they are on newer ground and the sand hasn't worked into the surface enough yet in that part of the track. The rail is out so far due to Te Rapa racing again next Sat. They were bloody lucky...we had 60mls yesterday and Kerikeri had 90......? Quote
barryb Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, mardigras said: You're kidding right. 9mm in 10 mins with out a lot of prior rain is nothing. Simply because 9mm is nothing. The amount of prior rain quantity had not been indicated - which I asked about. 146mm in last 30 days, none all week as its been fine and frosty. Regardless, even if they decided to press on the meeting would not be still going now, its torrential. Quote
von Smallhaussen Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Poisoned Dwarf said: The Gods of Rain acted, for they saw it as a mark of disrespect that a race honouring the late Dr Alexander McGregor-Grant be run anywhere other than Ellerslie. now going to Trentham next Saturday - he will be turning in his grave - I feel an earthquake coming on 1 Quote
Weasel Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 3 hours ago, barryb said: Thurs, Fri & Sat all fine, it will go ahead. Sand based track, drains in 1 day of no rain. cheers for that barryb Quote
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