Freda Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: It isn't that expensive. Especially when you consider the expense to stakeholders of what happens now. That's just the point, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Freda said: That's just the point, isn't it? Not sure what your point is but if the excuse for not changing the protocols is expense then it doesn't have any foundation. In this case the Owners and Trainer copped all the losses. The RIU incurred no additional marginal cost at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Not sure what your point is but if the excuse for not changing the protocols is expense then it doesn't have any foundation. In this case the Owners and Trainer copped all the losses. The RIU incurred no additional marginal cost at all. So, you think the Riu is going to undertake to incur more costs? Who, aside from Te Akau and a very few others, could afford to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Freda said: So, you think the Riu is going to undertake to incur more costs? There are no extra marginal costs. The initial blood tests are done anyway - sunk cost. If a positive is returned then the B sample is tested. Stuff all extra cost. To identify and set thresholds just requires the head vet to establish a threshold based on current science. For example they know with Morphine that unless it is over a certain dosage it has no therapeutic effect likewise in terms of performance enhancement. In terms of testing for the origin of the Morphine they know most of that detail now. All it requires is the development of an typical chemical profile to sample against. Organic morphine will be present with about 5 other chemicals in certain ratios. It isn't an expensive test process. The cost is such that it doesn't matter who the stable is as it isn't an expensive process. However I'm sure Freda if you won the Derby and returned a positive to poppy seeds I'm sure you would find enough people to crowd fund the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Oh.. ffs, that would never happen. Derby or poppies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share Posted March 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, Freda said: Oh.. ffs, that would never happen. Derby or poppies. Well you certainly have more chance of one than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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