Jacob Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Seems to be a real lack of dogs in this years event. Any reason? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty5 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Definitely! I would of liked others in it like Thrilling Izzy. I think drink shoeys will take it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 What a joke. I see Cole withdrew 3 dogs to get Federal Morgan into the final. How is something like this allowed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinggreys Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Jacob said: What a joke. I see Cole withdrew 3 dogs to get Federal Morgan into the final. How is something like this allowed? Typical manipulation Seems like the conditions are very poorly written if these are the only two reverences to withdraws. Forfeit your $200 bucks and that's it? Not really a problem for Cole when he drops $600 but is still going to get a grand if he's unplaced. No penalty or anything like that mentioned. ● An entry may be withdrawn prior to the closing date, and in these circumstances, shall be entitled to a full refund of the $200 donation paid. ● Withdrawals on and after the closing date shall not be entitled to a refund of the donation under any circumstances. ● Any such withdrawals must be advised directly to the GRNZ Racing operations team, not the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, racinggreys said: Typical manipulation Seems like the conditions are very poorly written if these are the only two reverences to withdraws. Forfeit your $200 bucks and that's it? Not really a problem for Cole when he drops $600 but is still going to get a grand if he's unplaced. No penalty or anything like that mentioned. ● An entry may be withdrawn prior to the closing date, and in these circumstances, shall be entitled to a full refund of the $200 donation paid. ● Withdrawals on and after the closing date shall not be entitled to a refund of the donation under any circumstances. ● Any such withdrawals must be advised directly to the GRNZ Racing operations team, not the club. Felt like race fixing but i guess you cant really blame him if that's how the rules are written. More the fault of whoever drafted the rules up and hes just taking advantage of poorly written rules Edited June 8, 2021 by Jacob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty5 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Jacob said: What a joke. I see Cole withdrew 3 dogs to get Federal Morgan into the final. How is something like this allowed? I saw that. Bull s***t. I hope he doesn’t win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Why bother having qualifying times the determining factor when one trainer can get any dog from their kennel they want in the final? After this mockery, I really hope GRNZ will think about the farce their big race actually is & correct the conditions for next year. With the inadequacies that are abundant within GRNZ, I won't be holding my breath. I fully expect a copy & paste of the conditions for next year. Eleven months from now it will be proven once again, it's not what was done, it's who had done it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four shaw Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 That’s what he does 🕷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty5 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) It’s not surprising. It would make sense if the dogs were injured or in season but they are both running on Sunday.JilibyLitsa and Federal Morgan are both owned by S Eaton, so they would of both decided on this. Its unfair to all the other trainers in the race. Edited June 8, 2021 by Mighty5 Error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 To me, this last month or so shows just how inept the Racing Operations Manager really is at preforming the job he's tasked with doing. Why are the Foxton two still operating "business as usual" with the only real change being the trainer name on the same dogs which are still being trained on the same property? Why has the Cole kennel been allowed to get the precise entrant into the field of The "No So" Amazing Chase that the kennel desired? The answer is the exact same to both of those questions. Has he even ever wondered why Paul & Brendon are not registered with GRNZ as trainers? Wouldn't it be nice if he reverted back to the TAB to sort out the Pick 6's like he used to do & give the greyhound code a chance at integrity & ultimate survival. Race 6 on Sunday is an invitational race with obvious preferential treatment. Who decides on which dogs get "invited"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) Hate to see a dog hurt itself but that was karma. Sad to see Edited June 13, 2021 by Jacob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanu Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Well done to Dave and Jean on the win nothing about karma Jake be a real man no one likes to see a good dog break down drive home safely Ella I no how that feels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nathanu said: Well done to Dave and Jean on the win nothing about karma Jake be a real man no one likes to see a good dog break down drive home safely Ella I no how that feels He didnt seem to happy about the dog itself getting injured. He says its sad to see Facts still stand regardless. 3 dogs were scratched from the race with no injuries to those dogs at all to get this one in. The dog would have been sound most likely if this did not happen. Ive been in a similar position in the past and it sucks It is sad a dog got injured and no one likes to see that just like no one likes to see people making a mockery of the rules like in this instance Edited June 13, 2021 by BitofaLegend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, BitofaLegend said: He didnt seem to happy about the dog itself getting injured. He says its sad to see Facts still stand regardless. 3 dogs were scratched from the race with no injuries to those dogs at all to get this one in. The dog would have been sound most likely if this did not happen. Ive been in a similar position in the past and it sucks It is sad a dog got injured and no one likes to see that just like no one likes to see people making a mockery of the rules like in this instance Nobody likes to see any dog injured no matter who trains it! No need to mention karma. I'm sure Jacob has experienced his own Karma along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 13 hours ago, Chaser said: Nobody likes to see any dog injured no matter who trains it! No need to mention karma. I'm sure Jacob has experienced his own Karma along the way. Obviously no one likes to see any dog get injured on a track. But the facts still are he made a mockery of the rules to get this dog into the race. If that is not karma, idk what is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 A big shout out to the two northern trainers to file objections to the mockery! I personally can't thank the two of you enough. Finally GRNZ LP's are standing up to to "establishment" and formally saying enough is enough. Even if the objections are not ultimately upheld, the noise from them will be clearly heard. https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/14558/stewards-report.aspx Someone at GRNZ headquarters need to be handed their walking papers & shown the exit dore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 It's never a good thing to see a dog get hurt. A dog doesn't get to choose where & when it races. That said, Federal Morgan would have likely been injury free and ready to run again if the Cole kennel simply let the race continue on the way it was initially set to be run, the way it was intended to be run. Someone's greed & loop-hole exploitation made it possible for Federal Morgan to fracture a hock in a two dog time trial race yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 The whole concept is crap, and nothing but a waste of industry funds. Its not even fair on the contestants. Because its spread over 30 minutes it means the conditions vary, ie, daylight for the first runners, and lights for the last runners, not to mention showers in between first and last. These novelty events do nothing for the sport other than stroke the ego's of a privileged few. They will go broke quickly putting this rubbish out there as i'm sure punters couldn't give a toss about these joke events. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Mitchell Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Why wasn't there a fine for the two runners been down 1.6 and 1.8 in weight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Lorna Mitchell said: Why wasn't there a fine for the two runners been down 1.6 and 1.8 in weight It seems there will soon be. It's being sent to the JCA to determine. Informations lodged:1). BIG TIME HARLEY (L Cole) - An information was issued with no plea entered in regards to this greyhound being presented to race down 1.8kgs from its last recorded weight with the matter being referred to the JCA.2). FEDERAL MORGAN (L Cole) - An information was issued with no plea entered in regards to this greyhound being presented to race down 1.6kgs from its last recorded weight with the matter being referred to the JCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Yankiwi said: It seems there will soon be. It's being sent to the JCA to determine. Informations lodged:1). BIG TIME HARLEY (L Cole) - An information was issued with no plea entered in regards to this greyhound being presented to race down 1.8kgs from its last recorded weight with the matter being referred to the JCA.2). FEDERAL MORGAN (L Cole) - An information was issued with no plea entered in regards to this greyhound being presented to race down 1.6kgs from its last recorded weight with the matter being referred to the JCA. Check stipes report today for an update id say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) This whole thing was a joke, start to finish. https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/May 2021/The Amazing Chase TandC's 2021 01-06-21.pdf From the T&C's of the Amazing Chase. Each greyhound will be entitled to one solo trial for Amazing Chase qualification purposes at any of the three venues (Addington 520m, Manukau 527m or Hatrick 520m). Note - it clearly says ONE solo trail from Addington, Manukau OR Hatrick. It doesn't say one trail at each venue. So why does ~ Toyka Bird have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington? Money Spinner have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington twice? Drink Shoeys have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington? Jiliby Litsa have recorded time from both Addington & Hatrick? Federal Morgan have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington? Big Time Kaylee have recorded time from both Addington & Hatrick? Pedro Lee have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington? https://www.grnz.co.nz/News/2681/Amazing-Chase-Leaderboard-2021 GRNZ just writes the rules & terms then completely ignore them. This is just one blatantly obvious reason someone at headquarters needs to be shown to the exit dore. Edited June 14, 2021 by Yankiwi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Just had a thought, maybe they should rename it, The Amazing Rort. Be no problem then as everyone would have their eyes open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 47 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: This whole thing was a joke, start to finish. https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/May 2021/The Amazing Chase TandC's 2021 01-06-21.pdf From the T&C's of the Amazing Chase. Each greyhound will be entitled to one solo trial for Amazing Chase qualification purposes at any of the three venues (Addington 520m, Manukau 527m or Hatrick 520m). Note - it clearly says ONE solo trail from Addington, Manukau OR Hatrick. It doesn't say one trail at each venue. So why does ~ Toyka Bird have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington? Money Spinner have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington twice? Drink Shoeys have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington? Jiliby Litsa have recorded time from both Addington & Hatrick? Federal Morgan have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington? Big Time Kaylee have recorded time from both Addington & Hatrick? Pedro Lee have recorded times from both Manukau & Addington? https://www.grnz.co.nz/News/2681/Amazing-Chase-Leaderboard-2021 GRNZ just writes the rules & terms then completely ignore them. This is just one blatantly obvious reason someone at headquarters needs to be shown to the exit dore. Wasn't he the Tosser that cost the T.A.B. millions with the "Poker" concept a fair while back? Adoring!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Since Akashi Boy ended up as being the top (and only) qualifier from Wanganui after the Cole withdrawals - it should have raced as #7 and in the final pairing, right? It was the top qualifier from Wanganui to appear in the final. So why did it race as #4 in the second pairing? Also - the race was listed to include the "quickest two" from Wanganui, which frankly didn't happen. Also the Wanganui third fastest gained entry by the draw, which also didn't happen because for the same reason. Therefore GRNZ breached it's own "T&C's" by running the race in the way it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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