Just more bullsh#t from a gun shy RIU and NZGRA. As for the JCA, they clearly got it wrong, but this isn't the first time. Its not about justice anymore but more about window dressing and the poor handler is the collateral damage. I would of charged the handler if he hadn't corrected the dog.
Just more bullsh#t from a gun shy RIU and NZGRA. As for the JCA, they clearly got it wrong, but this isn't the first time. Its not about justice anymore but more about window dressing and the poor handler is the collateral damage. I would of charged the handler if he hadn't corrected the dog.
Well television has no place in determining whats a crime and what isn't. And perception has no place either. The crime should be able to stand on its own legs.
Well television has no place in determining whats a crime and what isn't. And perception has no place either. The crime should be able to stand on its own legs.
I would of charged the handler for not correcting the dog if they hadn't. Dogs can be nasty when they get a snitch on another dog, and believe me, they will attack, and they have very good memory's as to which dog they want to deal too. Happens often at the end of a race, especially from non chasers. They sort out a dog in a race and get them at the end. Handlers need to be forceful in these situations, otherwise the dog take's control, and the end result can be bad for the victim.
A dog doesn't act according to GRNZ rules, it acts due to the pecking order it perceives around it. If something (or someone) higher up in the perceived pecking order in the dogs mind doesn't intervene, things can get really ugly really fast.
How would it have looked on the magical TV that the justice system seemed so worried about, if the target dogs ear or tail made in inside the dogs muzzle? Would the RIB have charged the handler for slapping it on its hind quarter then? What if he tried to tug it away with the lead?
It's become a sad day in the greyhound industry when the dog is in charge of a handler at the track.
A - for not doing your homework and looking at precedents. Fundamental in his submission I would have thought.
And B - that would have shown, correcting a dog is way bloody different to kicking a dog dont you think?
[28] Mr Austin does not indicate in his submission why an $800 starting point is appropriate, nor why a fine considerably above those in the two cases cited should be imposed in this case. There is no starting point in either of these cases and the penalty in each is within the range the RIU submitted was appropriate. The Committee can make the assumption it is because of the integrity issue, just addressed, but equally there is a need for consistency in the imposition of penalties for like breaches.
[29] The cases to which the parties refer have fines at the level of $250 and $300. One involves the kicking of a dog that would not enter the starting boxes at an unofficial trial, and the other a strike to the head when walking the dog to the start as it was reacting to having a bitch that was in season close to it.
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Just more bullsh#t from a gun shy RIU and NZGRA. As for the JCA, they clearly got it wrong, but this isn't the first time. Its not about justice anymore but more about window dressing and the poor handler is the collateral damage. I would of charged the handler if he hadn't corrected the dog.
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Chief Stipe
What annoys me is that just because it was televised on Trackside it was a "bigger crime"!
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aquaman
Well television has no place in determining whats a crime and what isn't. And perception has no place either. The crime should be able to stand on its own legs.
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Chief Stipe
What was the handler supposed to do to "correct" the dog?
Imagine if he had done what many good dog owners do with their pets and had forced the dog to the ground on its side and lay on it.
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I would of charged the handler for not correcting the dog if they hadn't. Dogs can be nasty when they get a snitch on another dog, and believe me, they will attack, and they have very good memory's as to which dog they want to deal too. Happens often at the end of a race, especially from non chasers. They sort out a dog in a race and get them at the end. Handlers need to be forceful in these situations, otherwise the dog take's control, and the end result can be bad for the victim.
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Agree @aquaman.
A dog doesn't act according to GRNZ rules, it acts due to the pecking order it perceives around it. If something (or someone) higher up in the perceived pecking order in the dogs mind doesn't intervene, things can get really ugly really fast.
How would it have looked on the magical TV that the justice system seemed so worried about, if the target dogs ear or tail made in inside the dogs muzzle? Would the RIB have charged the handler for slapping it on its hind quarter then? What if he tried to tug it away with the lead?
It's become a sad day in the greyhound industry when the dog is in charge of a handler at the track.
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Stellar performance by Mr Austin.....
[28] Mr Austin does not indicate in his submission why an $800 starting point is appropriate, nor why a fine considerably above those in the two cases cited should be imposed in this case. There is no starting point in either of these cases and the penalty in each is within the range the RIU submitted was appropriate. The Committee can make the assumption it is because of the integrity issue, just addressed, but equally there is a need for consistency in the imposition of penalties for like breaches.
[29] The cases to which the parties refer have fines at the level of $250 and $300. One involves the kicking of a dog that would not enter the starting boxes at an unofficial trial, and the other a strike to the head when walking the dog to the start as it was reacting to having a bitch that was in season close to it.
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