Yet another topic on doping and cheats

[Gammalite]

14 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

But you can determine who cheats and who makes a mistake?

Well don't those 2 things go Hand in Hand in life. Anyone who cheats is making a mistake lol....

Life is all about honesty and respect . the 2 critical things. 

Rules are in play everywhere for safety , and in sport for Fair Play, and even though you are trying to beat your opponent , you have to show some respect (to the sport, yourself, and rival) and beat them without breaking the rules and/or cheating. using skill is a way better option? 

And if you make a mistake.... e.g  and say 'give a bit too much dosage to horse', and get called a cheat , you aren't showing the' skill level 'necessary to deserve the victory anyway lol ?. 

[Chief Stipe]

21 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

And if you make a mistake.... e.g  and say 'give a bit too much dosage to horse', and get called a cheat , you aren't showing the' skill level 'necessary to deserve the victory anyway lol ?. 

@Gammalite there are heaps of reasons why mistakes happen especially in a large stable - staff not washing their hands after applying medication either to a horse or themselves, feeds being mixed, the wrong horse receiving treatment, misunderstanding between the vet and trainer on when the horse would be racing again.  Heaps of opportunities for mistakes.  That's why the large professional stables have implemented rigid systems and protocols to avoid mistakes but it still happens.

[Gammalite]

6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

@Gammalite there are heaps of reasons why mistakes happen especially in a large stable - staff not washing their hands after applying medication either to a horse or themselves, feeds being mixed, the wrong horse receiving treatment, misunderstanding between the vet and trainer on when the horse would be racing again.  Heaps of opportunities for mistakes.  That's why the large professional stables have implemented rigid systems and protocols to avoid mistakes but it still happens.

Sorry Chief , was just trying to be funny and it didn't come off to well.

Of course YES, I think most of the misdemeanours are just 'spur of that moment' mistakes in training and driving  , and not calculated Cheating . Knew a bloke who popped the wrong horse on his float once (first starter) and it got picked up by the stewards at Tweed Heads lol.. ..  

Another bloke won with a horse he got from Tasmania . It won 10 days after he received it and up came a +ve for steroid. ( the Tasmanian trainer must of been up to tricks) but Out the Qld trainer went for 6 months DQ. he presented the horse at races with it in , so paid the penalty. took it on the chin too. enjoyed the break i think lol.....

Race driving is even HARDER. there are many doing everything they can in the space of 2 minutes to beat you. I thought giving Cameron (Saginaw) and some others long suspensions for Spur of the moment 'errors' or Mistakes in the heat of the Moment,  is Very Mean in my opinion . ( when NOT causing interference to other runners , which IS serious IMO and worthy of penalty) 

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

Another bloke won with a horse he got from Tasmania . It won 10 days after he received it and up came a +ve for steroid. ( the Tasmanian trainer must of been up to tricks) but Out the Qld trainer went for 6 months DQ. he presented the horse at races with it in , so paid the penalty. took it on the chin too. enjoyed the break i think lol.....

That's why you should do the bloods of a stable transfer.

[Gammalite]

4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

That's why you should do the bloods of a stable transfer.

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