Jeff gural says its a mystery

[the galah]

jeff gural clearly chooses his words wisely,but there always seems a reason behind what he says.

What he had to say on the Harness racing alumni show this week,which you can hear on harnesslink, is very illuminating.

He calls the decision of the Unites states trotting association to immediately ban the first 2 people to have cooperated with federal authorites and given evidence of the widespread use of performance enhancers and corruption as a "mystery".

When you listen to him its clear there is an inference that the USTA have taken this action to discourage others from going down the path of revealing the truth.  

Seemingly some of those with influence within the  UTSA do not want others to come forward,fearing they may be implicated. The USTA have often been at loggerheads with Gural in the past. 

Gural explained certain small time participants,who authorities had significant evidence of using performance enhancers,were deliberately selected as witnesses and given immunity from prosecution, and with the promise that racing jurisdictions such as those that run the meadowlands would treat them with leniency when it came to future participation in the sport. They would get that because of their cooperation in helping clean up the sport by revealing the truth. 

Gural makes it quite clear that more high profile trainers,with teams of 20-30 were not given immunity or promises of continued participation,as he no longer wanted those bigger,doping trainers participating in the sport in the future. 

Gural says his goal is to set the example where trainers will see the dopers behind bars for a couple of years,sometimes having lost a fortune in legal fees,and realise that path isn't worth it. 

The host of the show commented that trainers knew they were only racing for 4th and 5th when they were racing against certain stables at tracks like yonkers.

Edited February 16, 2022 by the galah

[Chief Stipe]

So did the trainer he gave the amnesty to give him samples of the so called PED'S for testing?

Of course you are not saying PED use is rife are you?

[the galah]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

So did the trainer he gave the amnesty to give him samples of the so called PED'S for testing?

Of course you are not saying PED use is rife are you?

Of course it was rife in the USA.Don't tell me your going to deny that in spite of everything that has come out in the court cases?

You can bang on about them being able to test for any performance enhancer because they have such great testing,but no one believes that except you.

The point is there are still several harness licence holders who are due to give evidence in upcoming court cases over there.

So the USTA,who you you think would want to have the sport have some integrity,have immediately suspended the first couple of licence holders that have given evidence,and the conclusion being drawn by many is the UTSA don't want future witnesses exposing the cheats.

[the galah]

As to your theory about the trainers being supplied products with fake claims,well  one of the witnesses who gave evidence described a conversation where the disgraced vet said..."mother natures a bitch" then went on to describe how he explained chemically enhancing a horse to perform above its ability,it will eventually come down,detoxing,becoming very sick,falling apart".  Do you think that sounds like a good salesmans pitch to peddle his products chief. Or maybe you should consider the obvious. That his products did effect the horses health,and that is why so many became sick,with others dying.

Edited February 17, 2022 by the galah

[Chief Stipe]

51 minutes ago, the galah said:

As to your theory about the trainers being supplied products with fake claims,well  one of the witnesses who gave evidence described a conversation where the disgraced vet said..."mother natures a bitch" then went on to describe how he explained chemically enhancing a horse to perform above its ability,it will eventually come down,detoxing,becoming very sick,falling apart".  Do you think that sounds like a good salesmans pitch to peddle his products chief. Or maybe you should consider the obvious. That his products did effect the horses health,and that is why so many became sick,with others dying.

How many horses became sick?  How many died?  Whose horses?  You seem to be conflating the evidence and spreading it wider than is actually the case.

There is also a large flaw in your argument - as I repeatedly keep pointing out to you - the FED's had samples in their possession and the only drugs mentioned in the indictments are Clenbuterol (mislabelled) and the Sheep Placeta snake oil - PGF-1000.  

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

You can bang on about them being able to test for any performance enhancer because they have such great testing,but no one believes that except you.

That is a broad sweeping statement that is completely false.  You can test for anything you want to.  Those that say you can't are either incompetent or ignorant.

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

So the USTA,who you you think would want to have the sport have some integrity,have immediately suspended the first couple of licence holders that have given evidence,and the conclusion being drawn by many is the UTSA don't want future witnesses exposing the cheats.

Or exposing their own incompetence?