barryb Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) Thomass our resident expert on after the event punting has so kindly given us many a great after the event theories, of which Mardigras has kindly started testing one, its worth noting a few of these ideas in the one place for us all to have a quick reference point. Key things to watch for: Blinkers on first time or Blinkers off first time - depends on the race outcome. Winkers - same as above. Tongue Tie - same as above. Hoof Pads - same as above. Nasal Strip - same as above. Ring Bit - same as above. Crossover nose band - same as above. Sorry its a bit of an exhaustive list that goes on a bit more yet. Down in Grade - but only in last 18 months & mid week does or doesn't count, depends on race outcome. 4kg kid riders in heavy going - depends on race outcome. There are more I am sure, please add to them to help us all achieve more - TEAM. Edited August 5, 2018 by barryb 1 1 Quote
FeelTheFear Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Blinkers on (even when they have had on in past and never won but won with them off). That's his best one 1 Quote
Thomass Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Please Don't turn this into a site for PONSS Bazz 'Pissed on Saturdays/ Sundays' The key to successful punting is identifying the fastest horse to the winning post...with the best value Thats it in a nutshell Peripheral considerations like adding Blinkers and TT's can help obviously... ..and you'd have seen Rid hills research that says Blinkers do make them faster ...and the TT research that I tabled...that shows the same...generally If you go down Rid hills root of fastest sectionals instead of my Black Type form... Then you'd be making submissions to the Breeders that they should put fastest sectionals in the Catologue instead of Black Type ...and you know how stupid that'd be ...anyway...cheers big ears...have another Quote
Thomass Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, FeelTheFear said: Blinkers on (even when they have had on in past and never won but won with them off). That's his best one Oh moi gawd The nut cases are out today bazz Ask David Hayes how he uses this tool...tool He applied them to Vegas Magic...who performed like never before...and even led like never before Off next start....using as a tool Back on in the Everest Now go and put the straight jacket back on before I spank you again... I think you could be enjoying it though Quote
barryb Posted August 5, 2018 Author Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) Even if I was pissed T I would make far more sense than you. Hang in there T, everyone needs a good laugh, most of your posts are great comedy. Edited August 5, 2018 by barryb 1 Quote
FeelTheFear Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 It seems that a certain person, probably high on Lasix, and dehydrated certainly, can't reply without lowbrow tantrums. No response to this... "Blinkers on (even when they have had on in past and never won but won with them off)". Selective reality or perhaps blinkered reality is of real concern, except in some circles. You are right Barry, it is a comedy that probably surpasses the great Monty Python team, Dead Parrot and all. 1 Quote
Thomass Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, FeelTheFear said: It seems that a certain person, probably high on Lasix, and dehydrated certainly, can't reply without lowbrow tantrums. No response to this... "Blinkers on (even when they have had on in past and never won but won with them off)". Selective reality or perhaps blinkered reality is of real concern, except in some circles. You are right Barry, it is a comedy that probably surpasses the great Monty Python team, Dead Parrot and all. Wtf are you talking about? If you're referring to TOODALOO who had Blinkers on first up then trained off..and had Winkers back on when winning? Blinkers little sister... Trainers play with their minds...like I'm playing with yours by the looks... Quote
FeelTheFear Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thomass said: Wtf are you talking about? If you're referring to TOODALOO who had Blinkers on first up then trained off..and had Winkers back on when winning? Blinkers little sister... Trainers play with their minds...like I'm playing with yours by the looks... you haven't got a clue have you. Dear oh dear. No winks from here Quote
Thomass Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, FeelTheFear said: you haven't got a clue have you. Dear oh dear. No winks from here Any number of horses can win without Blinkers then need them later...dickhead Quote
FeelTheFear Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Thomass said: Any number of horses can win without Blinkers then need them later...dickhead you still don't get it. Dear oh dear. To state after the race that a horse won because it had blinkers on when in fact it had won with them off in the past and unplaced when wearing blinkers shows your limited honesty and punting integrity. Have an extra Lasix for me Quote
Thomass Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, FeelTheFear said: you still don't get it. Dear oh dear. To state after the race that a horse won because it had blinkers on when in fact it had won with them off in the past and unplaced when wearing blinkers shows your limited honesty and punting integrity. Have an extra Lasix for me Wtf are you on... ...any number of incidents could have occurred since wearing winning B again... ...ffs unless you can name the horse...f off Quote
Poisoned Dwarf Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 20 hours ago, FeelTheFear said: It seems that a certain person, probably high on Lasix, and dehydrated certainly, can't reply without lowbrow tantrums. No response to this... "Blinkers on (even when they have had on in past and never won but won with them off)". Selective reality or perhaps blinkered reality is of real concern, except in some circles. You are right Barry, it is a comedy that probably surpasses the great Monty Python team, Dead Parrot and all. Don't forget " The Flying Cat " 1 Quote
Weasel Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 49 minutes ago, Thomass said: Wtf are you talking about? If you're referring to TOODALOO who had Blinkers on first up then trained off..and had Winkers back on when winning? Blinkers little sister... Trainers play with their minds...like I'm playing with yours by the looks... I venture to suggest you are more likely to be playing with your own mind than anyone else's. Now excuse while I go look up the form line of a Hayes horse called Vegas Magic...wonder if it's at all related to their classy sprinter and Everest hope Vega Magic. Tell me TomTom.. will Vega Magic win the Everest if the Blinkers are "back on in the Everst", as you suggest? And if/when he does, will it be the Blinkers that made him go "fastest to the winning post"? Sigh. 1 Quote
Weasel Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Just now, Poisoned Dwarf said: Don't forget " The Flying Cat " Tiddles! (I fling her!!) Quote
barryb Posted August 5, 2018 Author Posted August 5, 2018 Come on fellas, this thread is becoming a joke. ? Quote
Thomass Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Weasel said: I venture to suggest you are more likely to be playing with your own mind than anyone else's. Now excuse while I go look up the form line of a Hayes horse called Vegas Magic...wonder if it's at all related to their classy sprinter and Everest hope Vega Magic. Tell me TomTom.. will Vega Magic win the Everest if the Blinkers are "back on in the Everst", as you suggest? And if/when he does, will it be the Blinkers that made him go "fastest to the winning post"? Sigh. Yep that's what generally happens when Hayes thinks Blinkers on is the stuff it needs... ...and that's what happens...he'll go faster from point a to point b...than without Probably fly the gates and stay out of time consuming possibilities... wtf knew? Quote
mardigras Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomass said: ..and you'd have seen Rid hills research that says Blinkers do make them faster What research is that. I've never seen it. Quote
mardigras Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomass said: If you go down Rid hills root of fastest sectionals instead of my Black Type form... I don't use sectionals. Stop making crap up. Quote
mardigras Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thomass said: He applied them to Vegas Magic...who performed like never before...and even led like never before So when Vega Magic won at Caulfield on 19 August last year over 1200m on a track rated a Soft6, she ran 1.10.04. Last start with blinkers on , she won at Caulfield on 28 July this year over 1200m on a track rated Good4, she ran 1.10.18 It's all starting to make sense now. Not only that, but I know how much you think weight affects things, she carried 2kg more when winning on the soft track than last start. Wow, your skill is never ending. Edited August 5, 2018 by mardigras 1 1 Quote
The Centaur Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, mardigras said: I don't use sectionals. Stop making crap up. Sectionals sound well when the trainer is trying to act "technical" with the owner. Owner will just nod in agreement. 1 Quote
mardigras Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Apologies to Vega Magic, 'she' is a he. If only someone else on this site that was wrong (and nearly always is) could ever admit it. It has to be a wind up. Quote
mardigras Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 4 hours ago, barryb said: Thomass our resident expert on after the event punting has so kindly given us many a great after the event theories, of which Mardigras has kindly started testing one, its worth noting a few of these ideas in the one place for us all to have a quick reference point. Key things to watch for: Blinkers on first time or Blinkers off first time - depends on the race outcome. Winkers - same as above. Tongue Tie - same as above. Hoof Pads - same as above. Nasal Strip - same as above. Ring Bit - same as above. Crossover nose band - same as above. Sorry its a bit of an exhaustive list that goes on a bit more yet. Down in Grade - but only in last 18 months & mid week does or doesn't count, depends on race outcome. 4kg kid riders in heavy going - depends on race outcome. There are more I am sure, please add to them to help us all achieve more - TEAM. 3yos after Christmas - because everyone knows they have strengthened up after eating their christmas turkey. 1 Quote
barryb Posted August 5, 2018 Author Posted August 5, 2018 Thank you, I had been ignoring that one, was always a winning idea, very profitable the next day. Quote
Poisoned Dwarf Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 On 4/08/2018 at 7:54 PM, Thomass said: Please Don't turn this into a site for PONSS Bazz 'Pissed on Saturdays/ Sundays' The key to successful punting is identifying the fastest horse to the winning post...with the best value Thats it in a nutshell Peripheral considerations like adding Blinkers and TT's can help obviously... ..and you'd have seen Rid hills research that says Blinkers do make them faster ...and the TT research that I tabled...that shows the same...generally If you go down Rid hills root of fastest sectionals instead of my Black Type form... Then you'd be making submissions to the Breeders that they should put fastest sectionals in the Catologue instead of Black Type ...and you know how stupid that'd be ...anyway...cheers big ears...have another " Rid hills root " should involve sexionals and " my Black Type form " suggests you been in the East Tamaki Tavern a bit......... 2 Quote
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