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12 hours ago, barryb said:

You been drinking PD?.

Even under serious influence my punting is far superior to Thomass's, I can still manage to get the bets on before the race runs.

Cmon Bazz just admit you let the 'experts' pick them for you with a subscription to a now restricted clientele...

....all you have to figure out is best price...

You couldn't work out how form analysis works if you were in a cardboard box eating chop suey with HK's best pro...

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Just admit you subscribe to a sectional orientated/ restricted numbers website Bazz...

...nobody could dish out the horses you do by 'studying' for your own selections...

...selections such as La Foi...more like FOI Gras...

...only a fast sectional a few starts back could come out of left field for you to tip it...

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You're quite a sad red nek bazz...Im disappointed in you to be frank

I thought you'd started the thread to help Punters discover your secret to the promised land

...but it's just full of vindictive stuff a teenage girl would insert on her FB page after her bf got stolen...

...who stole your bf?

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2 hours ago, Thomass said:

I thought you'd started the thread to help Punters discover your secret to the promised land

 

He did. It's called not listening to what you call form analysis. Every bit he started the thread with would help punters if they simply followed the advice that those 'ideas' are flawed and for the deranged.

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No it's actually mindless teenage girly behaviour...

..."ring bit and pads are major things to watch out for"

...only dickheads would say that...and it wasn't moi

You definitely need pads though...try sticking one in your derrière...

btw hope you included the B component when you analysed Riccs

It was wayyyy tooooo easy if you did

Now go stick your eye liner on sweety...you're late for school

 

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On 5/08/2018 at 6:34 PM, mardigras said:

So when Vega Magic won at Caulfield on 19 August last year over 1200m on a track rated a Soft6, she ran 1.10.04.

Last start with blinkers on , she won at Caulfield on 28 July this year over 1200m on a track rated Good4, she ran 1.10.18

It's all starting to make sense now.

Not only that, but I know how much you think weight affects things, she carried 2kg more when winning on the soft track than last start. Wow, your skill is never ending.

Just noticed this Mr Statsman...

Do you know about sex yet?

VM has a penis sans balls...As opposed to the vagina that you mistakingly took for a ...penis...penis...so when a neddy has a penis...with ball or sans...it's called a HE...ok?

As for the time thang

VM was racing into a vicious headwind that Victoria had throughout that week...

HE was the only one that had the balls to lead throughout on the day...even though he hasn't got any...

Wind tends to slow things down if you didn't know statsman

Thats Why times are unreliable when analysing form...and why I prefer Black Type...

btw..Have you contacted our Breeders yet..and suggested times should be used for their Black Type in catalogues...

...rather than the Black Type form I use in analysing form...that's in Black Type races...but which you poo poo...

...where you prefer slow maiden form...for some inexplicable simulating reason

but simulate away McDuff 

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Kettle black boys

I only deal in facts...and endeavour to help lost souls....asses like yourselves

Just deal with Rids contention that time is comparable and Blinkers made sfa difference...

...when Hayes said they did....into the wind

...and he'll play his mind with them...and take them off then on...

..for the Everest

 

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23 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Just noticed this Mr Statsman...

Do you know about sex yet?

VM has a penis sans balls...As opposed to the vagina that you mistakingly took for a ...penis...penis...so when a neddy has a penis...with ball or sans...it's called a HE...ok?

As for the time thang

VM was racing into a vicious headwind that Victoria had throughout that week...

HE was the only one that had the balls to lead throughout on the day...even though he hasn't got any...

Wind tends to slow things down if you didn't know statsman

Thats Why times are unreliable when analysing form...and why I prefer Black Type...

btw..Have you contacted our Breeders yet..and suggested times should be used for their Black Type in catalogues...

...rather than the Black Type form I use in analysing form...that's in Black Type races...but which you poo poo...

...where you prefer slow maiden form...for some inexplicable simulating reason

but simulate away McDuff 

now tommy are you sure there was a strong headwind

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28 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Just noticed this Mr Statsman...

Do you know about sex yet?

VM has a penis sans balls...As opposed to the vagina that you mistakingly took for a ...penis...penis...so when a neddy has a penis...with ball or sans...it's called a HE...ok?

As for the time thang

VM was racing into a vicious headwind that Victoria had throughout that week...

HE was the only one that had the balls to lead throughout on the day...even though he hasn't got any...

Wind tends to slow things down if you didn't know statsman

Thats Why times are unreliable when analysing form...and why I prefer Black Type...

btw..Have you contacted our Breeders yet..and suggested times should be used for their Black Type in catalogues...

...rather than the Black Type form I use in analysing form...that's in Black Type races...but which you poo poo...

...where you prefer slow maiden form...for some inexplicable simulating reason

but simulate away McDuff 

Sure. VM has also led in most of his starts - something you said was rare. You are clueless. 2kg, slow track, faster. Yet you though the last run was it's best ever. 

I don't prefer any form. I don't use form. I use performance. Which is why I can compare a runner from any race to any other. You can't, since you think black type is superior. It's why you lose.

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11 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Kettle black boys

I only deal in facts...and endeavour to help lost souls....asses like yourselves

Just deal with Rids contention that time is comparable and Blinkers made sfa difference...

...when Hayes said they did....into the wind

...and he'll play his mind with them...and take them off then on...

..for the Everest

 

I thought you didn't listen to the opinion of trainers. Yet you certainly seem to reference them often - after the races.

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1 hour ago, mardigras said:

Sure. VM has also led in most of his starts - something you said was rare. You are clueless. 2kg, slow track, faster. Yet you though the last run was it's best ever. 

I don't prefer any form. I don't use form. I use performance. Which is why I can compare a runner from any race to any other. You can't, since you think black type is superior. It's why you lose.

That's just a total UNTRUTH...FAKE FRAUD NEWS

But that's what I'd expect from you...

...even allowing for the fact that his ability enabled him to cruise clear in the lead in lower class races...

...he still didn't lead in the majority of cases through his career thus far

...when VM got to open class his sectional 800/400 positions read

4/7 - 2/3 - 6/6 - 3/2 -2/2 - 3/2 - 1/1 -7/8 - 3/2 - 4/4 - 3/2 

only once did he lead without Blinkers on...then he blitzed them with BO from the front, when no other leader on the day could handle the wind in front

...which btw you added as a factor in the straight Flemington 6...

...so you know it's a factor

go back to learn proper stats statsman...nek minute pre school

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Thomass said:

That's just a total UNTRUTH...FAKE FRAUD NEWS

But that's what I'd expect from you...

...even allowing for the fact that his ability enabled him to cruise clear in the lead in lower class races...

...he still didn't lead in the majority of cases through his career thus far

...when VM got to open class his sectional 800/400 positions read

4/7 - 2/3 - 6/6 - 3/2 -2/2 - 3/2 - 1/1 -7/8 - 3/2 - 4/4 - 3/2 

only once did he lead without Blinkers on...then he blitzed them with BO from the front, when no other leader on the day could handle the wind in front

...which btw you added as a factor in the straight Flemington 6...

...so you know it's a factor

go back to learn proper stats statsman...nek minute pre school

 

 

Why don't you put up every start the horse has had, so that we can decide what you mean when you stated 'led like never before'. 

You've been caught out even with your last post. You like digging holes for yourself.

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50 minutes ago, mardigras said:

Why don't you put up every start the horse has had, so that we can decide what you mean when you stated 'led like never before'. 

You've been caught out even with your last post. You like digging holes for yourself.

I've put the stats up that showed you were lying...

Its simply not true that through its entire career "it led for the majority"

She...oops...HE....is not a leader since reaching Black Type class

...until it got a hell of a shock with Blinkers going on...and led easily

against a high class field

And of course very unlucky in last years Everest when caught 3/4 wide without cover 

But according to you "that's unquantifiable"

Dickhead of the highest class

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3 minutes ago, Thomass said:

I've put the stats up that showed you were lying...

Its simply not true that through its entire career "it led for the majority"

She...oops...HE....is not a leader since reaching Black Type class

...until it got a hell of a shock with Blinkers going on...and led easily

against a high class field

And of course very unlucky in last years Everest when caught 3/4 wide without cover 

But according to you "that's unquantifiable"

Dickhead of the highest class

Who's talking about black type.

And your post said led like never before. And then you put up that it had led. Don't you understand that means you were wrong. Clearly you're in need of an education.

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2 hours ago, Thomass said:

.which btw you added as a factor in the straight Flemington 6...

...so you know it's a factor

Not in the way you are using it.

At Flemington it is a factor as not all horses will necessarily encounter the wind in the straight 1200m.

At Caulfield, that scenario does not apply 

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On 5/08/2018 at 2:58 PM, Thomass said:

He applied them to Vegas Magic...who performed like never before...and even led like never before

Just to keep with facts. If we are supposedly talking about Vega Magic, he has raced 7 times as the horse leading. And 4 times as sharing the pace, prior to its latest win. More than half of its career starts up to that point. I guess that equates to 'even led like never before'.

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