Jumping. Exhibition only.

[The Centaur]

When it comes to jumping races it must be done properly or not at all. In the UK they know how to do it with the infrastructure, population and crowd support. New Zealand clubs don't have the resources to do it properly.

Therefore the suggestion is. Scrap all jumping races but have races for jumpers. At various meetings have organised exhibitions of individual horses whereby they can qualify as a jumper. It would mean far more horses being educated for jumping leading to these horses having a post racing life. Also fill in time between races for those wanting to see something going on.

[curious]

I don't see what the point would be in qualifying jumpers and having races for them that aren't jumping races?

[The Centaur]

4 hours ago, curious said:

I don't see what the point would be in qualifying jumpers and having races for them that aren't jumping races?

AS I pointed out its an incentive to educate horses for jumping to keep the transition into post race activities.  Lets be frank. There is no punting or crowd interest in jumping except a few times of the year. With the hill gone at Ellerslie its just the diehards that keep jumping going.

 

[curious]

37 minutes ago, The Centaur said:

AS I pointed out its an incentive to educate horses for jumping to keep the transition into post race activities.  Lets be frank. There is no punting or crowd interest in jumping except a few times of the year. With the hill gone at Ellerslie its just the diehards that keep jumping going.

 

I'm not sure that training as a hurdler or steeple-chaser is a lot of use for post-racing activities. Those horses need to be re-educated for the likes of show-jumping and eventing in my experience, much the same as one which has never jumped at all. If you want to prepare them for those careers, would they not be better to be specifically educated for them? I still don't see the point.

[The Centaur]

25 minutes ago, curious said:

I'm not sure that training as a hurdler or steeple-chaser is a lot of use for post-racing activities. Those horses need to be re-educated for the likes of show-jumping and eventing in my experience, much the same as one which has never jumped at all. If you want to prepare them for those careers, would they not be better to be specifically educated for them? I still don't see the point.

Yes you might be right not the best education. However there has to be a compromise. If jumping is uneconomical or impractical therefore in order to keep the personel in the game something needs to be put in its place.

Tell me what advertisement is it for racing having exhausted horses jumping the last and most probably falling.

[Freda]

2 hours ago, curious said:

I'm not sure that training as a hurdler or steeple-chaser is a lot of use for post-racing activities. Those horses need to be re-educated for the likes of show-jumping and eventing in my experience, much the same as one which has never jumped at all. If you want to prepare them for those careers, would they not be better to be specifically educated for them? I still don't see the point.

 Neither do I 

 And spending clients money to jump racehorses without any races for them is really asking for them to throw up their hands and give up the whole business.

[curious]

14 minutes ago, Freda said:

 Neither do I 

 And spending clients money to jump racehorses without any races for them is really asking for them to throw up their hands and give up the whole business.

Yes. If I'm going to pay for my horse to be educated, I'd rather pay for it to be educated for a career it can actually pursue.

[The Centaur]

16 hours ago, Freda said:

 Neither do I 

 And spending clients money to jump racehorses without any races for them is really asking for them to throw up their hands and give up the whole business.

The whole idea of races for jumpers is to satisfy that spending. So I agree with you there needs to be balance.

Racing chiefs have to take a long hard look at jumping races. Its pretty obvious they are uneconomical and overall detrimental to the industry. 

[Chief Stipe]

14 minutes ago, The Centaur said:

Racing chiefs have to take a long hard look at jumping races. Its pretty obvious they are uneconomical and overall detrimental to the industry.

Uneconomical in what way?  Our Group flat races don't actually pay their way.

As for being detrimental is it anymore detrimental than racing horses on shyte unsafe tracks?  Anymore detrimental than the coming majority of racing being on artificial surfaces?