Chief Stipe Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Ben Gleeson to head Te Akau's Cranbourne stable www.justhorseracing.com.au Te Akau Racing Australia has officially appointed Ben Gleeson as Assistant Trainer for their new stable set to be based in Cranbourne, Victoria. The announcement has generated excitement within the industry, given Gleeson’s exceptional credentials and experience. Expressing his pride in welcoming Gleeson to the team, David Ellis CNZM, Managing Director of Te Akau Racing, stated, “I am very proud to welcome Ben to the Te Akau team.” “His appointment as Assistant Trainer for our new Australian operation is a key one and he brings an outstanding CV to the role, rich in Australian and international experience.” Gleeson, who recently concluded five years as Assistant Trainer to Danny O’Brien, expressed his enthusiasm about joining Te Akau Racing. “Mark Walker and I have met a number of times over the last month,” Gleeson revealed. “David Ellis and Mark offered me the role, which is obviously a position too good not to take up, and I’m both humbled and excited about the appointment and glad to be joining the Te Akau team.” Coming from a racing and breeding family and armed with a Bachelor’s degree in Business Management from La Trobe University, Melbourne, Gleeson brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the table. His previous experience working for top trainers in Australia, as well as his exposure to European racing during his time in the United Kingdom, have further enhanced his skills. Gleeson’s immediate plans involve spending time at Te Akau’s Matamata stable in New Zealand and Te Akau Stud before transitioning to the Cranbourne stable. “I arrive on 13 August and am looking forward to seeing all the horses and finding out the details of the stable operations,” Gleeson shared. With the stable aiming to have horses in training by September, Gleeson is excited to contribute his own experience to the team’s endeavors. Te Akau Racing has set ambitious goals for their Australian stable, with the aim of having 20 horses training by November and expanding to a roster of 60-80 horses within 12 to 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I'm not sure of Ben's age but, don't see any grey hairs so suspecting under 40. One thing Te Akau seem to pride themselves in is facilitating the involvement and progression of youth. They need to be commended on that front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Special Agent said: I'm not sure of Ben's age but, don't see any grey hairs so suspecting under 40. One thing Te Akau seem to pride themselves in is facilitating the involvement and progression of youth. They need to be commended on that front. You need to present more compelling evidence than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, holy ravioli said: You need to present more compelling evidence than that. Provide evidence to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Provide evidence to the contrary. Contrary to someone's random observation about grey hair!😄 'I'm not sure of Ben's age but, don't see any grey hairs so suspecting under 40. One thing Te Akau seem to pride themselves in is facilitating the involvement and progression of youth. They need to be commended on that front.-Why you have presented no real evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Contrary to someone's random observation about grey hair!😄 'I'm not sure of Ben's age but, don't see any grey hairs so suspecting under 40. One thing Te Akau seem to pride themselves in is facilitating the involvement and progression of youth. They need to be commended on that front.-Why you have presented no real evidence. The poster was expressing an opinion that Te Akau seem to select and promote youth. You are inferring they don't without even providing any evidence that there is a lot more grey hair in stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: The poster was expressing an opinion that Te Akau seem to select and promote youth. You are inferring they don't without even providing any evidence that there is a lot more grey hair in stable. He has presented no evidence to back his opinion. In fact his comment smacks of spruiking a stable that puts alot of resources into it's imaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: He has presented no evidence to back his opinion. Nor have you. 24 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: In fact his comment smacks of spruiking a stable that puts alot of resources into it's imaging. A statement indicative of your true intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Nor have you. A statement indicative of your true intent. Oh dear! I do hope your reflexes are as fast as your...horses...you seem so determined to continually punch yourself in...the face!😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Oh dear! I do hope your reflexes are as fast as your...horses...you seem so determined to continually punch yourself in...the face!😀 A random statement. You haven't presented any evidence countering @Special Agent opinion. Yet you infer that their opinion is based on and influenced by Te Akau's marketing i.e. it's presumably an image that bears no relationship to the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: A random statement. You haven't presented any evidence countering @Special Agent opinion. Yet you infer that their opinion is based on and influenced by Te Akau's marketing i.e. it's presumably an image that bears no relationship to the facts. You join all the unconnected dots...and suggest everytime someone states an opinion not supported by facts,that rebuttal relies on stating the..obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: You join all the unconnected dots...and suggest everytime someone states an opinion not supported by facts,that rebuttal relies on stating the..obvious. Have no idea what you are trying to say here. The fact is someone makes a positive comment/opinion about a particular stable and you immediately disparage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Have no idea what you are trying to say here. The fact is someone makes a positive comment/opinion about a particular stable and you immediately disparage it. His comment is pure ASSUMPTION....comprenez!!🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Whilst on the Te Akau thread….I thought I would add a few sobering comments to the hype… They are setting up shop in the debt ridden capital of Australia - possibly 5 years too late, but that’s another story for another day. It’s been well documented by industry participants the decidedly poor availability of suitable race meetings, especially for those horses with lower benchmarks…that’s why there are so many ex-Victorian horses in QLD., NT and northern NSW In addition, prizemoney is heading south ….big time and on a sharp Deep South trajectory…which is a result of the very poor economic management leading to difficult conditions in Victoria impacting on the take from the corporate bookmakers crashed revenue (even though 8% POC tax is competitive.) add to the mix to extortionate Workers Compensation charges by the Victorian Government will drive many trainers out of business. A leading trainer (not one of the mega factory trainers) has a bill of $400,000 for the year…and rising. Victoria is by the far the worst state in Australia for WC charges…How can trainers not pass this cost onto owners? (By comparison a similar sized stable in NSW is $30,000…) Also, they have a different tax structure in Australia…. Very different to NZ ….. Victoria is no longer the place to be training…all the above mentioned factors plus the dominance of the factory trainers, is going to make life interesting and most importantly, very costly for owners… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Very interesting, M.M. Although not up with the economic situation in Vic, the stakemoney drop has been made public. I did wonder myself why Vic and not NSW for the stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Freda said: Very interesting, M.M. Although not up with the economic situation in Vic, the stakemoney drop has been made public. I did wonder myself why Vic and not NSW for the stable. The last time I looked in May this year when the stakes cut was announced was that the cut in stakes was 3%. That is the drop would be $10m over $345m. At that time Victoria still had the highest average stake of $71,700. In my opinion Victoria also has better racing infrastructure overall than NSW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 7 hours ago, holy ravioli said: His comment is pure ASSUMPTION....comprenez!!🙄 So how old is Ben then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, Special Agent said: So how old is Ben then? It's irrelevant ,as far as making your...case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: It's irrelevant ,as far as making your...case. So is your beef the fact that I was praising Te Akau, my assumption of age or just because I gave a positive comment you didn't agree with? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I read that learned ecclesiastical folk in the middle ages used to argue how many angels could fit on the head of a pin. H.R would be in his element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Special Agent said: So is your beef the fact that I was praising Te Akau, my assumption of age or just because I gave a positive comment you didn't agree with? This is your comment...'I'm not sure of Ben's age but, don't see any grey hairs so suspecting under 40. One thing Te Akau seem to pride themselves in is facilitating the involvement and progression of youth. They need to be commended on that front.- On the basis that you don't see Ben with grey hair ,you over reach to commend TA . If I tell you that trainer X has a foreman in his 20's and employs apprentice jockeys,does that mean they should be commended for facilitating the involvement and progression of...youth too?🙄 Btw ,how do you define...'youth'..is grey hair ..your criteria?🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, Freda said: I read that learned ecclesiastical folk in the middle ages used to argue how many angels could fit on the head of a pin. H.R would be in his element. Athiest..here. People are welcome to have opinions afaic....best to base them on ..substance imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, holy ravioli said: It's irrelevant ,as far as making your...case. What case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: What case? This one-' One thing Te Akau seem to pride themselves in is facilitating the involvement and progression of youth. They need to be commended on that front.-'----comprehension dear boy,comprehension.😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: This one-' One thing Te Akau seem to pride themselves in is facilitating the involvement and progression of youth. They need to be commended on that front.-'----comprehension dear boy,comprehension.😜 Seems to be a fact to me. But you have the envy and tall poppy problem not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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