holy ravioli Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Seems to be a fact to me. But you have the envy and tall poppy problem not me. 'Seems' to be!No evidence was produced.When I see TA represented I see grey hair everywhere...Alice,Karen,Mark,Opie. You appear to suffer from...'brown nose' syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, holy ravioli said: 'Seems' to be!No evidence was produced.When I see TA represented I see grey hair everywhere...Alice,Karen,Mark,Opie. You appear to suffer from...'brown nose' syndrome. Anyone who knows me will attest that I have never brown-nosed in my life. As for your negative views of Te Akau they are irrelevant. Those views are unfortunately representative of the malaise that has crept up on this country fueled by the ineptitude and socialist ideology of the biggest bunch of clowns ever to hold the Treasury benches in this country. As more and more stakeholders are disenfranchised in the racing industry the calls to cut the tall poppies down get louder from some individuals such as yourself. Leveling the playing doesn't mean bringing the top down to a lower level. The irony doesn't escape me that some people on one hand laud the achievements of Jamie Richards in Hong Kong (in my opinion he hasn't done anything special in HK yet) while denigrating the stable and systems that developed him and furthered his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Anyone who knows me will attest that I have never brown-nosed in my life. As for your negative views of Te Akau they are irrelevant. Those views are unfortunately representative of the malaise that has crept up on this country fueled by the ineptitude and socialist ideology of the biggest bunch of clowns ever to hold the Treasury benches in this country. As more and more stakeholders are disenfranchised in the racing industry the calls to cut the tall poppies down get louder from some individuals such as yourself. Leveling the playing doesn't mean bringing the top down to a lower level. The irony doesn't escape me that some people on one hand laud the achievements of Jamie Richards in Hong Kong (in my opinion he hasn't done anything special in HK yet) while denigrating the stable and systems that developed him and furthered his career. A very long bow you have produced there !The original discussion is not my negative view on TA.It is asking for evidence to support SA's conclusion. What have the Natz ever done for racing in the last 20 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: What have the Natz ever done for racing in the last 20 years? What has Labour done? More importantly what has the racing industry done to help itself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: What has Labour done? More importantly what has the racing industry done to help itself? Well when Sargent became head of NZTR they decided to pay the board.That was to attract...talent! 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: What has Labour done? More importantly what has the racing industry done to help itself? Aw gawd the ole Natz byline....'but,but...whatabout...Labour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Aw gawd the ole Natz byline....'but,but...whatabout...Labour! Geez you went down that path first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Holy moly Ravioli! Discussion around the dining table must be interesting in your house. Or maybe not. I get the feeling you are possibly left to rant and argue with yourself. Life is too short to pick a fight over nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 12 hours ago, Special Agent said: Holy moly Ravioli! Discussion around the dining table must be interesting in your house. Or maybe not. I get the feeling you are possibly left to rant and argue with yourself. Life is too short to pick a fight over nothing. Once again uninformed,mere opinion based on no substance. You made a claim that you couldn't back up..own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Once again uninformed,mere opinion based on no substance. You made a claim that you couldn't back up..own it. It was an opinion based on observation. What's wrong with that? Afterall that's the basis on which Labour managed the pandemic. Anyway you agreed with the observation but that the basis of the observation was just marketing imagery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: It was an opinion based on observation. What's wrong with that? Afterall that's the basis on which Labour managed the pandemic. Anyway you agreed with the observation but that the basis of the observation was just marketing imagery. As far as 'observation' re grey hair, a reasonable person would arrive at the opposite conclusion to SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 hour ago, holy ravioli said: As far as 'observation' re grey hair, a reasonable person would arrive at the opposite conclusion to SA. Really? I'd either conclude they had a good hairdresser or as @Special Agent suggest under age 40. @Special Agent was on the money as Ben Gleeson is aged 28. From 3 years ago: BLOODSTOCK MOVERS-AND-SHAKERS Ben Gleeson by Racing and Sports , 2 years ago Assistant trainer to Danny O’Brien Ben Gleeson - Assistant trainer Name: Ben Gleeson Age: 25 Current job title: Assistant trainer to Danny O'Brien How did you get into the industry? I got into the industry due to my parents. My mother Merilyn Anderson was a trainer and my father Damien Gleeson operates a breeding farm. The passion and interest was always fostered through them basically. What was your first job in racing? My first experiences in the industry came through helping mum at trackwork in the mornings, while seasonally working at the yearlings sales for dad. First racing memory? My first racing memory would be going to my first Cox Plate, and watching Sunline win like the superstar she was. Ever since I have loved the Cox Plate and the race day itself more than any other day. Who has been the biggest influence on your career? Working for Shannon Hope had a huge impact on me. He taught me the most about work ethic and how far it can get you. Even more so about how important the basics are when doing something properly. I have carried these lessons with me all the way through. If there was one thing you could change about racing / bloodstock in Australia, what would it be and why? I would change the trackwork times. Training horses in the light is the best way to see your horses train. Europe manage it and I can't see why we can't here. Furthermore, it'll improve the welfare and life of staff and attract more people to industry. I think it would be a huge benefit to the industry. I think in terms of race days themselves and general interest in the sport, racing is doing a great job promoting itself and increasing the awareness of big race days. The industry is making it more of a spectacle for all age groups and seem to be generating the right crowd numbers. In terms of work wise though, again, I would change trackwork hours to make the job more appealing. If you didn't work in racing, what would you be doing? I don't even know what else I would be doing. I only really know horses and that's it haha! Favourite racehorse of all time? My favourite racehorse was So You Think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Do you know what a circular argument is? Yes Gleeson is under 30,and does not appear to have grey hair. That is one person....have Alice,Karen,Mark or Opie any grey hair?That is 4 people for...starters.🤡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 51 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Do you know what a circular argument is? Yes Gleeson is under 30,and does not appear to have grey hair. That is one person....have Alice,Karen,Mark or Opie any grey hair?That is 4 people for...starters.🤡 You've just become the blue dog! @Special Agent commented that Te Akau seem to "pride themselves in facilitating the involvement and progression of youth". Ben Gleeson with no grey hairs and aged 28 supports that opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: You've just become the blue dog! @Special Agent commented that Te Akau seem to "pride themselves in facilitating the involvement and progression of youth". Ben Gleeson with no grey hairs and aged 28 supports that opinion. Oh,the one swallow makes a ..summer...logic!🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 hour ago, holy ravioli said: Oh,the one swallow makes a ..summer...logic!🤣 How about: Jamie Richards Sam Bergerson Reece Trumper Nicole Shailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: How about: Jamie Richards Sam Bergerson Reece Trumper Nicole Shailer So!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 First one on your list ,must just be dying his hair..grey!🤣 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.65DOx1x4l5BiqZgePjkkCQHaE8%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=54eba1434705ccfa015ae81e417b5a5aec8b5679e3948e4a3b9bcb83de603bd1&ipo=images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: So!!! Point proven. Are you now knocking these active stakeholders that are younger than you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Point proven. Are you now knocking these active stakeholders that are younger than you? You do not know my age.Stop punching yourself..in the..head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, holy ravioli said: First one on your list ,must just be dying his hair..grey!🤣 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.65DOx1x4l5BiqZgePjkkCQHaE8%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=54eba1434705ccfa015ae81e417b5a5aec8b5679e3948e4a3b9bcb83de603bd1&ipo=images Now aged 33. Started at Te Akau in 2015 at age 25. The grey must be a fashion statement. Give up while your nose is still above ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Now aged 33. Started at Te Akau in 2015 at age 25. The grey must be a fashion statement. Give up while your nose is still above ground! You just shot yourself again...!🤪.You are defending SA's premise of making judgement on whether or not people have...grey hair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I would not mind a few -grey or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: You just shot yourself again...!🤪.You are defending SA's premise of making judgement on whether or not people have...grey hair! Don't you give up you are doing a great job of..... The evidence concurs with @Special Agent assertion that TA employs and promotes young people. I guess the marketing approach just publishes that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Don't you give up you are doing a great job of..... The evidence concurs with @Special Agent assertion that TA employs and promotes young people. I guess the marketing approach just publishes that fact. Sure it does,in a world where you were a Lincoln debating...champion!!!!👺🤡🤘🖐️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Sure it does,in a world where you were a Lincoln debating...champion!!!!👺🤡🤘🖐️ Don't know where you dreamed that up from. Give up unless you are wanting to end up in China. There is clear evidence that TA complement their experience by hiring young and talented horse people. One point to @Special Agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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