The Centaur Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I just can't understand why corporates like to pile everything under the one DNS i.e. website. I have no idea how the NZTR website is set up but wouldn't it make sense to separate raceday videos or streaming service from the normal website just for raceday. All you would need is the race result and a video link hardly einstein material. I can view videos without problem when the loveracing.nz site crashes but the average punter would not be able to figure it out. Hence the complaints. According to NZTR release they expect the website to crash again tomorrow. What a pack of highly paid dumbo's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, The Centaur said: According to NZTR release they expect the website to crash again tomorrow. What a pack of highly paid dumbo's. Yes, but ... it crashed again today with no racing which they said was what was causing the problem. So, they obviously have no clue what is going on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 14 hours ago, The Centaur said: I just can't understand why corporates like to pile everything under the one DNS i.e. website. What you are suggesting isn't the problem. A DNS is a Domain Name Server and all that does is match a domain name to a host address. 13 hours ago, curious said: Yes, but ... it crashed again today with no racing which they said was what was causing the problem. So, they obviously have no clue what is going on. It's the same problem that we have debated on BOAY some time ago. If my memory serves me correctly NZTR signed up to the same provider as TABNZ - Spark. Spark (over) uses Cloudflare a Content Delivery Network (CDN) to supposedly provide a stable content delivery service. Bit they're muppets and use it incorrectly for the wrong content. Add to that the recording of races in 4k+ high definition by Trackside and you have a bandwidth problem. This also leads to buffering problems when viewing races via the TABNZ website not to mention the unnecessary extra data allowance you have to consume. Mind you Spark likes that - equals more revenue from the TABNZ/NZTR for bigger pipes and then from mobile customers. I'm guessing that the CDN service is getting in the way. Spark failed with their sport streaming service so I wouldn't expect them to be much good at delivery for racing. I wonder how the new $2.5m+ computer system at NZTR is working for them and Trainers? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: What you are suggesting isn't the problem. A DNS is a Domain Name Server and all that does is match a domain name to a host address. It's the same problem that we have debated on BOAY some time ago. If my memory serves me correctly NZTR signed up to the same provider as TABNZ - Spark. Spark (over) uses Cloudflare a Content Delivery Network (CDN) to supposedly provide a stable content delivery service. Bit they're muppets and use it incorrectly for the wrong content. Add to that the recording of races in 4k+ high definition by Trackside and you have a bandwidth problem. This also leads to buffering problems when viewing races via the TABNZ website not to mention the unnecessary extra data allowance you have to consume. Mind you Spark likes that - equals more revenue from the TABNZ/NZTR for bigger pipes and then from mobile customers. I'm guessing that the CDN service is getting in the way. Spark failed with their sport streaming service so I wouldn't expect them to be much good at delivery for racing. I wonder how the new $2.5m+ computer system at NZTR is working for them and Trainers? 🤔 New season maybe? Haven't seen any indication of any change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Freda said: New season maybe? Haven't seen any indication of any change. I wouldn't be surprised if the recent issues are related to integrating the new system with the website interface. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Freda said: New season maybe? Haven't seen any indication of any change. Probably not the new season. Seems you are still required to download paper forms for Stable Returns. Meeting News Article / Meetings / RaceInfo / LOVERACING.NZ loveracing.nz Meeting News NZTR would like to provide a timely reminder to Trainers of key obligations ahead of the commencement of the 2023-24 racing season. LICENCE RENEWALS Trainers who have not completed their licence renewal for the 2023-24 racing season will NOT be able to nominate or accept for any races at the commencement of the new racing season (1 August 2023). NZTR will strictly enforce a ‘no licence - no nominations’ policy to be upheld by the National Racing Bureau. You can complete your licence renewal for the 2023-24 season here. STABLE RETURNS Trainers must ensure they complete a Stable Return Form whenever a horse enters their stable and notify when they leave. This Form needs to be completed as soon as a horse enters a Trainer’s stable to ensure our industry is meeting the highest standards of traceability for our racing population. This process is mandatory and a horse cannot be entered in trials or race without the completion of a Stable Return Form. We understand that the RIB has commenced stable inspections, and this will be one of the first things they check under this process. HOW DO I COMPLETE THE STABLE RETURN FORM? You can complete a Stable Return Form by downloading it from the NZTR website here. Ensure you read all information clearly and complete it accurately. Return your completed form to nrb@nztr.co.nz. This Form can also be completed through the Trainers Service Centre. NZTR would also like to remind Trainers that they need to remove horses from their Trainer list when a horse leaves their stable (either retires or is transferred). This can also be completed through the Trainers Service Centre. NAMING OF TRIAL HORSES NZTR has approved the Rule change whereby a horse may only be entered for, and start in, a race, or a trial (or a jump-out or test for certification purposes) if it is registered and has been named in accordance with the Rules of Racing. NZTR’s IT system has been updated so that unnamed horses cannot be nominated through the National Racing Bureau and the Trainer’s Service Centre from 1 August 2023. You will not be able to enter in a race, or a trial (or a jump-out or test for certification purposes) if your horse is not named. You can complete a Name Registration Application form here. The Name Registration Application form needs to be lodged at least three business days before nomination, with the correct ownership details registered (if not already completed). Return your completed form to registration@nztr.co.nz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Stable return can be done online and has for some time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Freda said: Stable return can be done online and has for some time. Then why doesn't it say that in the notice that they have published on the website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Then why doesn't it say that in the notice that they have published on the website? They've been online for years so I think most trainers would understand that means the online form. It doesn't say paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, curious said: They've been online for years so I think most trainers would understand that means the online form. It doesn't say paper. Then why doesn't it say that? Instead it says you can download a form!!!! That isn't an online system. Don't "think" or "assume" that "most trainers" understand. Why couldn't the communication be clearer? It isn't as if they haven't hired more people to manage things!!!! HOW DO I COMPLETE THE STABLE RETURN FORM? You can complete a Stable Return Form by downloading it from the NZTR website here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Then why doesn't it say that? Instead it says you can download a form!!!! That isn't an online system. Don't "think" or "assume" that "most trainers" understand. Why couldn't the communication be clearer? It isn't as if they haven't hired more people to manage things!!!! HOW DO I COMPLETE THE STABLE RETURN FORM? You can complete a Stable Return Form by downloading it from the NZTR website here. Fair enough point. It's an antiquated instruction that should have been updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, curious said: Fair enough point. It's an antiquated instruction that should have been updated. Or they have doubts that the website access will remain available when people want to use it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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