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    • actually i find it interesting that they have finally named the race involved at palmerston north. I don't know how to,but someone should just put up the video and people can make up their own minds. the article says the police intercepted conversations between the pair. Well unless we know the exact wording of the conversations the police had recorded,its hard to make a judgment call either way,in my opinion.So,sitting here without that specific knowledge,the benefit of the doubt should apply. even the article the chief has posted seems to infer that money was made from a race being fixed,but how accurate is that article as race fixing would involve betting and it has always been reported betting was involved.But the $ amount quoted in the article, is the winning stake.  i have to admit,having just watched the race replay and knowing one defendant was wall,its easy enough to guess who the unnamed party is.Its almost certain it would not be the winning driver. the thing i would say,having watched that race again,was something questionable which warranted the question on the night being asked by the stipes. to me,if i was a stipe,yes i would have asked questions around a certain drive,but moreso to remind a driver that your watching ,knowing that particular race video was insufficient to prove anything on its own. but therein,lies what i have always said,was why there was ever an operation inca. That is,the stipes weren't doing their jobs properly. Over the years,i've probably started half a dozen topics on examples of manawatu officiating stipes,seemingly watching races with the caps still on their binoculars. was the race in the article one of them,no. I get where you are coming from and agree in that the scale of the reaction by anyone who gets caught up in these things,whether of their own doing or not,seems overblown. But there can be no denying,people in harness racing live in an insular world that results in seemingly irrational magnification of some issues. Like,its not just a small % that seem to react like the world is caving in and thier future has forever changed,its a large %. How many times has the chief said hes closing a topic around matters mentioned in this thread because of that very reason. Its like people can't discuss reality without some sort of irrational response.  But there is definetly a mental health phenomenon related specifically to racing around these matters..
    • Enough of that BS thanks.
    • That in a sentence is the crux of the problem. Unfortunately they changed ye old race fixing to 'Match fixing' instead a few years ago so the Harness (or racing) people could no longer deal with it themselves. It's a criminal charge and those accused are 'Arrested' initially.   My Personal opinion is it happens all the time (every week) in a small way. EXAMPLE Why isn't it match fixing if an owner is told his horse will be taken back and then try and follow the stable-mate up the last half around the field and come around it late on for victory. So the owner puts $100 win on. The plan works . stable-mate used as the bunny ? 🙄 . Match fixing ?? to a degree.  the bunny was used to help another horse with an investment on it win ? . Is it how much money is invested on a runner that leads to charges being laid then ?  probably. (and from what source) jockeys and football players just use their mum's names for the investments lol 🤣        
    • Perhaps you should go back to school and learn to read before you comment. I neither questioned his integrity nor his experience.
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