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By Chief Stipe · Posted
The other thing I would point out and not wishing to be a smart arse but it is published knowledge that after the KiwiB Damask Rose underwent fetlock chip surgery. So her lead up to OZ racing wasn't that straightforward. In her 2 and 3 yr old seasons she wasn't too far behind the likes of Velocious, Alabama Lass and Captured by Love. -
By Chief Stipe · Posted
But what have you "seen"? At least @hesi you have given some justification for your opinion. In terms of "improving" being nebulous perhaps I should have said if she gets back to the level she has shown in the past then she will be competitive in races better than Grp 3 in OZ. She is currently rated at 103 which is just a few points below the elite level. When she first raced in OZ her rating was 104. Her first campaign lost her a point. There have been any number of horses that have won a Grp 1 with a lower rating at this stage in her career. Then you rate Evaporate as only a Grp 3 horse? -
By Murray Fish · Posted
same, looked tight there down on the rail, looks like a mare with plenty of fight still in her! -
Drawing a long bow there CS. This debate is about the merits of a horse based on what we have seen, not on what she just might improve enough to do, which is very nebulous. Yes the fields do fall away, but there are so many good genuine G1 quality horses in Aus, that she would still be up against several horses rated well above her. It does show that these restricted races in NZ are at about G3 level, and at best our racing is at G3 level, notwithstanding that we are still capable of producing some extraordinary horses that are well up to G1 level in Aus. Let's hope that both Well Written and Ohope Wins carry on that trend. Neither has beaten much, just the way they have ability to make up so much ground. We saw that in recent years with horses like Legarto and Verry Elleegant -
By Chief Stipe · Posted
I don't disagree that she will have to improve. BUT sometimes these fields drop away really quickly. Personally I think they are aiming for something else. Both you and @Newmarket being supreme form analysts will have worked out by now the patterns available to her and the path towards them. Although @Newmarket says she isn't even up to OZ Grp 3 which she obviously is and would send her to Kanagaroo Island or prep her for the Kumara Gold Nuggets.
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