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    • yes it seems a way to encourage people to use Cheaper stallions for their mare instead of the risk in paying the $30k for Captain Treacherous and that. a large amount to just get a foal. might as well just go and buy a yearling at the sales ?.  a yearling that looks great right in front of you at the sale.  So a scheme like this you mention gives an owner a chance at Winning a race with out any Big Winning stallions in it ?.  I guess there's a chance of small time stallions getting more Mares? but really ? it's like aiming for the basement instead of the penthouse lol 😁 once you have a ' cheap 'horse you're generally stuck with it lol. bloodlines are reasonably important to increase your chances of winning races. (as proven through history really) The quality of race horse in it (the new races) will  seem low then ? , thus would be not creating an event good for publicity and encouragement in the Sport. Unlike a Slot race , or a Sires Stakes Series or similar, that draws the best horses and gets good publicity and long range aspirations for the big players to stay in the sport. You NEED the Big players . And BIG PRIZE races. the Sport will be DECEASED with out their support.  If you rely on tiny bit players (you call them grass root)  the sport would end up like Tasmania with cheap syndicate horses , running in cheap races, that no one has heard of, and no-one bets on.  Perhaps a better idea is to have a $10k + bonus for Any horse upon it's first Race win.? gives the owner/breeder something to aim for . at all levels.    
    • Right that's great - let's do it like everyone else instead of better.  At least you admit the rules are poorly written.  BTW in NZ and most jurisidictions Jockey's cop the fine or suspension and don't legally challenge anything.  Part of the reason we end up with inconsistency and INCA's. Then promote that rather than what you admit is a poorly written rule which as a consequence is hard to enforce.  But much more fun to incite the masses is it not?!
    • I don't disagree that the rules could be better written, but that same rule is in use in a number of jurisdictions and I'm not aware that there has been any dispute over it's interpretation. Seems to me it would be hard to strike a horse on the ribcage with hands off the reins without using the reinforced part of the stick rather than just the flap. The simple solution would be to change the rule so it is simple and enforceable. i.e., No use for encouragement with hands off the reins.
    • Hall of Fame trainer D. Wayne Lukas, one of the most prolific trainers and influences in horse racing history, has been hospitalized in Louisville, Ky. and will not return to training, according to family members.View the full article
    • so hrnz have come up with a series designed to support the people who bred their mares to stallions who cost $5000 or less. They say the concept is to support people at the grass roots level. a $720,000 stakes raceday consisting of 12 races run for $60,000. Now i get what HRNZ are trying to do. They have received significant criticism for prioritising the top end and doing next to nothing for the grassroots level. So,i give them points for trying with this new concept. But what i don't get is why they came up with the concept of only people with horses who spent under $5000 on a stallion. My criticism of HRNZ has always been for 2 main reasons. 1)they haven't been fiscally responsible with their spending on stakes on top end races. put simply,they aren't erning enough to spend as they have been. so,its apparent how they think,in effect overspend even more to keep more people happy by providing races with good stakes. i just don't get how that makes any sense. 2)you can't prioritise one group ahead of another, In other words everyone has to get a fair go. When they have limited the series to stallions $5,000 or under,they have prioritised that group of people. And the strange thing about that is how they seem to think $5000 is the magical figure that grass roots people max out on when breeding their mares. I just don't get how thats fair to people at the grassroots level who have spent more than $5,000 on a stallion. I just look out the window and see a couple we have and think,well that would have excluded them had we still been going, as we spent $6,000.  But whether it be $5,000 or $10000 or whatever,isn't the point,the point is the type of races and the level at which they participate. and also lets not forget,even the elite like the jones /hopes/dalgeties and the like have owners/breeders who race many bred and butter horses,whom are by sires they paid relatively high stud fees for. Why are the owners of those horses not included. so i don't think prioritising any group is a good thing. so Hrnz are at least trying,but I just don't think they have come up with a way that gets the greatest impact. actually is was watching a programme on the catholic church in poland the other night and it was discussing declining numbers that were going to churches over there.  They highlighted how a couple of churches were doing great numbers wise and bucked the trend. They interviewed the priest at one of thoses busy churches and he said the church should be focussing on connecting with people at the grassroots level more like he was and not focussing as much as what goes on higher up..No matter what it may be,that is always the way things should flow.
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