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But JMac hasn't ridden Romantic Warrior in all his Grp 1 wins.

Droll and unoriginal. Who is typing for you nowadays?

On what grounds would it stop it being sold? It was advertised as embargoed was it not.

Stick to photography @Murray Fish

A Savabeel-How Womantic filly sold for $190,000 by Vinery Stud on behalf of a client to agents Mark Player and Rob Roulston also had an “ineligible to race” embargo placed on her by Racing Australia before the Magic Millions. It is believed that the filly, who is by New Zealand’s champion sire, did not have the ownership registration lodged on time because an embargo had been placed on her by Waikato Stud due to an overdue service fee payment. The outstanding amount was subsequently paid by the filly’s breeder, but Racing Australia placed an embargo on her due to the apparent late FOD. The appeal process remains ongoing. The development came as Thoroughbred Breeders Australia, which has been at loggerheads with Racing Australia about breeders’ foal ownership declaration obligations, sent its members an extended reminder email on Wednesday about their responsibilities. Under Racing Australia’s regulations, breeders must now lodge both the mare return and the foal ownership declaration (FOD) within 30 days of a foal’s birth, with the two requirements consolidated into a single online process on the Australian Stud Book website. FODs submitted between 30 and 60 days after birth will attract a $360 late fee. Foals with FODs lodged more than 60 days after birth will be automatically placed under embargo, rendering them ineligible to race in Australia unless a formal appeal is upheld. Racing Australia’s policy states that appeals will be reviewed in 21 days but the aforementioned Spirit Of Boom filly’s case extended well beyond that time period. “Our update to members was intended to reassure affected breeders that support is available and that they are not navigating this alone,” TBA and Aushorse chief executive Andrew Hore-Lacy said. “We have consistently raised concerns that embargoes are a disproportionate penalty, particularly where there has been no intent to avoid compliance. “In some cases, they are creating serious commercial and welfare consequences. We have urged Racing Australia to apply greater proportionality and common sense in the administration of these matters. “Our primary focus for now is on fact-finding and ensuring every impacted breeder has the opportunity to gather and present all relevant information and to have their matter determined in accordance with principles of procedural fairness.” It is understood that two horses catalogued for next month’s Magic Millions Adelaide Yearling Sale also have a not-to-race embargo placed on them due to the late lodgement of FOD forms with the industry’s national regulator. @Comic Dog

That's the fundamental problem with a club like the WRC. The members buy their membership for the entitlement and none of them can remember when they last painted a rumning rail.

@Murray Fish @curious the racing industry has NEVER been self-funding. No Club put enough profit aside to fund the maintenance amd renewal of core racing assets. Any other business that goes down that path eventually fails. Alll some Clubs have left is a land bank that they can off load to fund maintenance. However the harsh reality is most Clubs don't own their properties or if they do have anything left to sell.

I gather you and @curious don't understand track funding Both of you are so wrong it is laughable. @curious show us all in financial numbers when Racing paid its way.

You miss the point as always. If you win backing winners on NZ races (a remote possibility) with overseas book makers then your conscious will force you to put some of your winnings back into NZ Racing.

And what have you done for any dogs life?

Ok. I'm ok with the Jameson but the last time I nailed Guinness was when they had Toss the Boss at Rumpoles Bar at the Park Royal in Victoria Square, Christchurch. 9 free pints was a bit much.

Ok then over your Guinness what did you decide was the best way to get sufficient return from wagering to fund NZ Racing at the level you desire?

Turnover doesn't equal revenue unless these punters are betting on the Tote. So how do you explain that turnover hasn't moved downwards equivalent to the punters you talk to reduction in punting? Not that I would actually believe what a punter tells me they turnover!

On what basis do you make that statement? Anectdotal feedback over rums at the Racecourse Hotel?

That's a false statement. How do you arrive at that?

Why is banning AI 'bourgeois'? To save people looking up the meaning: refers to the middle class, typically characterized by conventional, materialistic values, and a focus on property or wealth ownership. Often used critically, it implies being suburban, unimaginative, or conformist. In Marxist theory, the bourgeoisie are the capitalists who own the means of production and exploit the working class.

But was the best Fixed Odds? On Betfair you were only ever going to get what someone was going to match you for. As for sticking up for ENTAIN from my observation they are no worse or better than any corporate bookie. They are also doing far far better than the last lot. But the far bigger issue is no one has come up with a way of funding NZ Racing from wagering. Surely you are not like @curious who wants the best of all worlds without paying for it.

I didn't realise you were @Shab as well. So essentially a low margin operator in a very low liquidity market. So how much did Crown Resorts make out of that exchange?

Do you mean the Tote or Betfair?

Well there are lazy ways most often taken by the intellectually challenged. Is someone elses opinon repeated your opinion or theirs? Who's in whose head? The person who feels they need to comment on an opinion from another site because they have an inferiority complex and need to put people or stables down?https://bitofayarn.com Or the person who is asked for an opinion - gives one and then justifies it with the analysis they used to derive that opinion. The lazy one is so motivated to prove someone wrong that they feel they need to "ring a couple of valuers" to get an opinon. Nameless valuers at that. For a horse that the lazy one has no interest in and is adamant it is "only average and not up to Group level in OZ". I can think of over $2m+ reasons why I wouldn't mind a share in it and that's not counting its residual value!https://bitofayarn.com @Comic Dog

Just for the @Comic Dog - NOTE - I didn't say $2m - I said around $1.5m. BTW that was my opinion i.e. I didn't "ring a couple of valuers" as you did to form your opinion.

What's the alternative?

His Great Grand-dam was a NZ bred mare by Lordship.

Are you losing your mind @curious ? I didn't start this Topic on BOAY. @Murray Fish did. Why don't you correcr that statement you have made elsewhere?