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Really? It wasn't YOUR post - you copied someone else's missive. It is laughable that the NZTBA should NOW be seeking accountability. Where have they been for the last 25 years while the issues we now face started to develop? Quite frankly my brief interaction 20 years ago with the CD branch of the NZTBA did nothing to impress me. I will respond to your copied post in due course.

Incorrect. So @Huey and @Freda can take their likes back. It wasn't a camera malfunction at the Breeders Cup. Just the first time that in a major race the photo finish showed an actual deadheat. The technology they were using WAS modern to the extent that it was believed that an actual deadheat was impossible. So they spent 13 minutes deliberating over a number of photos. There were other things to complain about however the fact is the photo finish camera AND the electronic timing have been problematic at Trentham for over THREE years now. If we can't get those key pieces of infrastructure working correctly on a Group 1 day or any raceday for that matter then the sport is still stuck in amateur mode. It just amazes me how you CD guys are so duplicitous - you bag or promote certain tracks and then turn a blind eye to others. Seems Trentham is a protected species which of all ironies fits into @Huey and @Freda view of the world.

Hastings and Awapuni WILL be back and running. Woodville, Tauherenikau, Waipukurau, Otaki. Choose which 2 go if Trentham stays.

Judging from the over head pictures of Trentham I would say the dodged a bullet thanks to rain they received even then the track was very patchy. As most of us know you can't rely on Mother Nature all the time.

They need capital invested in their assets to get them up to scratch.

When Awapuni and Hastings are up and running Woodville will be surplus to requirements. It is no more than a 90 min drive from 5 other racecourses.

I'm not but I guess you consider yourself to be an average punter. Why? Who were the average punters betting offshore?

Median or average spend?

Your average punter doesn't care.

Why? How does the monopoly affect you? In saying that your post also denies there is a monopoly.

Apps dont have "issues" - they might have "bugs" where certain functionality doesn't work but the biggest cause of the problems you describe is backend processing capacity or network connectivity/capacity issues. Both of which ENTAIN sub-contracts to a vendor. The rep wouldnt know what was the cause.

Have Woodville got an irrigation system yet?

Most punters that you make your money out of are not as disciplined as you are hence you make money out of them. They bet on all three race codes one after the other.

There are some interesting issues in this closure. Pokie and Casino cross-subsidisation of racing. A land claim by local native american tribes (or first nation peoples as we are supposed to describe them nowadays).

Hastings Racecourse halts thoroughbred racing immediately End of an era as the site has hosted thoroughbred horse racing since 1889 ps://bitofayar Horse racing at the Hastings Racecourse site has taken place since 1889.Mike Howell, BIV Listen to this article 00:05:57 Hastings Racecourse and Casino Friday afternoon said it would no longer have thoroughbred horse racing. The permanent end to that racing had been speculated given that B.C. Solicitor General Nina Krieger in November sent horse racing representatives a letter saying that the government would stop sharing slot machine revenue with the racecourse.https://bitofayarn.com Her rationale for no longer wanting to share that revenue is that a government review of the industry showed "significant additional government spending" was needed to make horse racing sustainable. At one time in B.C., horse racing was the only legal gambling allowed. That prompted large crowds to watch races. In recent years, the number of people attending the racecourse has been far lower than it was decades ago. Exact attendance is unavailable because attendance is free and there are no turnstiles. The federal government broadened legal gambling in 1969 and B.C. created the BC Lottery Corp. in 1985. Gambling in B.C. expanded through the decades. Licensed casinos were allowed to operate and other forms of gambling became legal. That created competition for racecourses. Harness racing at Surrey's Fraser Downs closed earlier this year. “This was an extremely difficult decision, especially given the historical legacy of Hastings Racecourse in the local community and its importance to the province’s racing industry,” said Wayne Odegard, regional vice-president at Great Canadian Entertainment.https://bitofayarn.com “Unfortunately, this is strictly a business decision based on a lack of economic feasibility to move forward with another season of horse racing at Hastings. We are incredibly thankful for our dedicated team members, racing participants and fan base for their support and patronage for so many years.” Odegard said his racecourse's focus will be to support its staff through this transition, as well as "racing participants" as they assess other options for thoroughbred racing in the province. Thoroughbred racing takes place between April and October so there are no horses currently stabled at Hastings. The casino operations and that of simulcast racebook activities at the site will not be affected. "Today's development is deeply distressing," the Horsemen’s Benevolent and Protective Association of British Columbia said in a news release. "The province’s abrupt decision to eliminate the long-standing slot-revenue commitment — with only two months’ notice — has destabilized a 133-year-old industry and undermined the financial foundation on which thoroughbred racing in British Columbia has relied for two decades."https://bitofayarn.com Its president, David Milburn, added "What we are seeing today is the direct and immediate consequence of the province’s announcement." He said that by removing the structure that made racing viable, the B.C. government "placed workers, owners, breeders, trainers, and agricultural suppliers in an impossible position.” Hastings Racecourse & Casino, on leased city land on the Pacific National Exhibition grounds in East Vancouver, has conducted thoroughbred racing since 1889. The venue has a five-furlong race track as well as stables for several hundred horses. It also has backstretch facilities. Great Canadian Entertainment has operated Hastings Racecourse & Casino since 2004 and leases the facility from the City of Vancouver. The site added a casino in 2008 after Great Canadian invested in substantial property upgrades. The Tsleil-Waututh Nation (TWN) in November announced that it had entered into a definitive agreement with Great Canadian to buy the casino portion of the business and the casino-related real estate property interests at Hastings Racecourse & Casino. This followed the two parties announcing in June that they had signed a non-binding memorandum of understanding for the transaction. TWN Chief Jen Thomas told BIV in June that Great Canadian approached the nation about selling the casino business.https://bitofayarn.com That first meeting then led to an invitation from Thomas for Great Canadian officials to further discuss a potential deal in the nation’s council chamber. “We met with them, we discussed the opportunity and we said, ‘Hey, now this sounds very interesting, let's dig deeper into it,’” she said. Site could potentially be future soccer stadium The Hastings Racecourse site has been rumoured as a potential location for a soccer-specific stadium. The Vancouver Whitecaps, which tomorrow play Inter Miami CF in the Major League Soccer (MLS) cup final, are in lease negotiations with BC Pavco, which owns BC Place. That lease ends this year. The Whitecaps are for sale, and that may give the team's majority owner, Greg Kerfoot, leverage in extracting government money to help build a stadium on the Hastings Racecourse site. MLS commissioner Dan Garber today said without a better lease, everything is on the table for the Whitecaps, including moving the team. Steve Luczo, Jeff Mallett, and Steve Nash are minority owners of the team. The ownership group has not revealed the exact size of each's ownership stake. Mallett for the past six years has been executive chairman. He told BIV in 2020 that he and Kerfoot were the ones who approve key club decisions. “The two Steves are not as active,” Mallett said in 2020. Kerfoot acquired the team in 2002, after previous owner David Stadnyk stepped down as owner and handed control of the team to the the United Soccer League, which is where the team then played. Kerfoot then put together the team's current ownership group in 2008. The four were awarded a MLS franchise, which came with a US$35-million franchise fee, the following year and saw the team play in North America's premier soccer league starting in 2011. Forbes this year estimated the team's value at US$440 million.

Yeah but 2 of those 3 have a knack of galloping regardless!!! Straight line training on a beach surface with variable softness can help.

Two drivers complained about it. It seems that the problem is the wind blew the cut grass cover off it and or the other reason given was that it was very dry and dusty. Hence the have a kids plastic watering can putting some water on it! Well you know my views on too much head gear. The best one's don't need it. The more you put on them they more they need to trust their driver.

I've seen worse crossing's over the last 50 years than the one at Wingatui today. Are we getting soft or are horses not trained like they used to be?

Well it appears you were all at the same location so that could be a localised 4G or 5G congestion issue. There have been issues with ONE and SPARK capacity in recent weeks and also with cell tower upgrades. Then again you could be using a 2G or 3G nokia clamshell. Regardless the issue is most likely a network issue with a congestion point somewhere. NOT an app issue. Looking at the issue you experienced it could very well indicate a growing pain problem - which looking at it positively is a good sign.

Except the video camera is not on the official finish line therefore the angle is incorrect. There have already been a number of similar instances with the camera failing in the last two seasons. If I recall correctly one involved tge Stewards over turning the Judges decision.

Isn't that 3 years in a row that the Captain Cook/Mufthasa Group 1 has had serious issues? I thought you'd be the first to call for accountability. They yet again dodged a bullet. If the margins had been a credit card thickness closer we'd still be waiting for a result. It appears not only did the main system fail but so did the backup.

FFS issues with the photo finish and electronic timing has been going on for years now!!!

Immediately after the race Stewards were made aware that the photo-finish had failed to function. This resulted in a delay in declaring the result while the Judge confirmed his visual call by viewing video footage at length in the presence of the Stewards before declaring the official result. The Club will review circumstances as to the reasons for this malfunction occurring. Report 2025-12-06 Trentham.pdf

The photo finish is posted for the race before and after the Mufthasa but not the Mufthasa. Seems they are still working on the Stewards Report as well.

What "ongoing App issue"? Did you run out of coins for the WiFi???