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Which is what Ellerslie is doing. The last two years they have had $10m operating losses each year.

Correct. Otherwise you are relying on sucking up to politicians. What most Club Committees don't understand is that the 2000m circular paddock they race on needs considerable maintenance each year and periodic complete renovation. That cost has to come from retained profits.

@Joe Bloggs do you want an address for service?

Forget about the financing. Look at it from a business perspective. How will the business make enough profit to maintain core racing assets? That's the measure and the only measure for the business case.

Why will there be fallout? I have no idea what Budweiser Lite has to do with it.

But as @Trojan asks where is the business case for the Greenfields site? They will have to do something different because none of the members of the "new" consortium were making an operational profit when they joined Waikato Thoroughbred Racing Incorporated. That entity had nearly a $1m loss on racing last year.

Well I've written to Leigh McKenzie requesting him to remove @Joe Bloggs aka @farnakler's posts that are lies and defamatory. I've also warned McKenzie that if @Joe Bloggs wishes to pursue legal action then he will also be involved. But you are right nothing has changed on that site. I've double checked @Joe Bloggs account on BOAY which he has publicly admitted is his account and the email address that belongs to that account has not been changed since the account was created by him on 7 October 2019. So if his wife is receiving BOAY system generated emails that are sent each time his avatar is mentioned concerns her then she should take it up with @Joe Bloggs . It would also appear that the devices used on that account have remained consistent since that date. As far as the threats of legal action and notifying NZTR are concerned well to say I find that amusing would be an understatement. After this post I will remove his access that allows the receipt of system generated emails.

To be fair @Comic Dog is desperate and allows his so called "mates" free reign. @Joe Bloggs has had multiple user accounts here and on RC. He uses three email addresses one of which appears to be his wifes or is shared with his wife. The @Joe Bloggs account is linked to that address. He makes wild accusations while hiding over on the dark side and my right of reply is here on BOAY. I asked Leigh Mckenzie on several occasions to address the issue or allow me the right of reply over there. He refuses and more often than not replies with some smart arse reply supporting @nomates and @Joe Bloggs. Invariably there is the threat of legal action. @Joe Bloggs crossed the line when he accused me of trolling and stalking his wife. The problem lies squarely with him. I guess he is correct when he says he has trouble remembering one alias let alone three.

Attention @Joe Bloggs You are making false accusations about me "trolling and stalking" your wife. What's more you are a liar. At no stage have I directly communicated with your wife. However it appears that one of your three aliases which each have different email addresses may be in fact your wife's. You have admitted online that you are @Joe Bloggs on this forum and @farnarkler (plus other aliases) on the other channel. I realise that your understanding of the internet and forums is rudimentary and you may be confused. I suggest you cease and desist from making false accusations.

@Joe Bloggs you are a liar. If you are so concerned about stalking and trolling then make a complaint. However you won't because I can prove that you used three accounts on BOAY. Now suck it up petal.

Whatever. Take your crusade elsewhere if you can find a forum that will have you.

Yeah and I don't hear anyone complaining about LOTTO's takeout rate!

I'm convinced that you have joined the band of contrary old men. On the one hand you are grizzling about the lack of promotion and involvement of a younger generation in racing and now you have a conscience about young people gambling.

No comments on this topic @Newmarket or are you too busy campaigning on reducing gambling harm?

I suggest @Thomass YOU grow up. Your childish writing style and purile attempts at humour only serve to demean yourself. However it is noticeable that in your declining years you have had an epiphany and are taking on every woke cause you can find. I guess that is one way of establishing a sense of "belonging". If you don't like racing then take up crochet or join an Anti-Racing forum.

Good old Kiwi spite. No doubt you are in full support. Typical throw your toys out the cot.

That's somewhat of an extreme generalisation. The fact is up until ENTAIN arrived on the scene you have made no posts on gambling harm to young gamblers. Yet the moment you are restricted in where and how much you can wager you are all over it and pleading for the welfare of your kids and grandkids. You may well describe comments nonsense written by someone calling out the irony and hypocricsy of your new found stance. Not to mention of course that you are not prepared to state what the nonsense is!!

You're a liar @Comic Dog - you frequently copy posts from here. Farknuckle aka @Joe Bloggs your accusatuon of trolling is also a lie bit then you appear not to understand the meaning of the words troll nor stalk. Which is not surprising given who you pretend to associate with.

You obviously have a closed mind and didn't listen to what he said. Regardless he is right on a number of things - the majority of viewers don't see what the stipes have to find in the bunker reviewing in slo-mo HD video nor do they care. Also the micronority Anit-Racing brigade are ANTI-RACING fullstop. They won't stop at whip strike counts. That's where GRNZ got it wrong they should have focussed on positive metrics e.g. the number of dogs NOT injured rather than the micro-percentage that were. PS: you must have found the racing from Hong Kong totall abhorrent. I guess you watched reruns of The Dog House instead.

Who is the "Independent Consultant"?

New Analysis Details Government Annual Gift Of $119m To Multinational Gambling Company June 23, 2025 Press Release – Greyhound Racing New Zealand The analysis, prepared by an independent consultant, details the financial help required for Entain to meet its funding guarantee of $150m per year to the racing industry.https://bitofayarn.com Greyhound Racing New Zealand has released new analysis detailing the extent to which the Government is financially supporting a multinational gambling giant. It comes as the Government is expected this week to pass the Racing Industry Amendment Bill into law, creating a digital monopoly on gambling for Entain. The analysis, prepared by an independent consultant, details the financial help required for Entain to meet its funding guarantee of $150m per year to the racing industry.https://bitofayarn.com The funding guarantee, combined with a guarantee to retain approximately 450 TAB staff until June 2025, were set under the terms of the agreement when the TAB’s betting business was outsourced to Entain in 2023. The passage of legislation to block New Zealanders from gambling offshore will boost Entain annual revenues by at least $75m per year. The retention of gambling on Australian greyhounds after the ban comes into effect, will preserve Entain gross betting revenues of approximately $44m per year.https://bitofayarn.com Without these actions by the Government, Entain would be faced with an estimated revenue deficit of $26m per year. Greyhound Racing New Zealand CEO Edward Renell said: “The Government has chosen to bail out a multinational gambling company at the expense of ordinary Kiwis. “It will shamelessly pass laws and create digital monopolies so Entain can meet its funding guarantees and obligations to private shareholders. “Entain won’t need to compete to win new revenue as it was brought in to do. It will be gifted it by banning Kiwis from using non-Entain betting providers and retaining gambling on Australian greyhound racing. “The decision to keep taking money from Australian greyhound races, but strip thousands of regional Kiwis of their livelihoods and passion, is depressingly cynical and hypocritical.https://bitofayarn.com “Gross income of $44 million dollars each year will now be sliced up between the Government, Entain and the equine codes and not go to the thousands of trainers, owners, and breeders involved in greyhound racing. “It’s a reverse Robin Hood. The Government is taking money from the provinces to save face on a bad deal and keep the money flowing into Entain, thoroughbred and harness racing.” Notes: Timeline of Entain – TAB deal: March 2023: TAB and Entain agreed to enter a strategic partnership agreement where TAB has delegated its betting and wagering functions to Entain. May 2023: The partnership was approved by then Racing Minister Labour’s Kieran McAnulty, outsourcing TAB’s monopoly betting operation to Entain for 25 years, a UK-listed multinational. 50% revenue share between Entain and the TAB. May 2023: TAB sought a variation to its authorisation of its arrangements with Tabcorp to reflect strategic partnership with Entain. June 2023: The partnership officially started on June 1, 2023.https://bitofayarn.com Entain Guarantees under the terms of sale: Entain provided TAB $150 million upfront a with a guaranteed $150 million for the first five years. $10 million sponsorship for racing carnivals. On passage of the Racing Amendment bill into law: $100 million payment from Entain, $80 million to be shared between thoroughbred and harness racing Entain committed to no forced redundancies for first 24 months of the agreement, due to expire this month (June 2025). Book value of Entain’s TAB licence assets, if the Racing Amendment legislation goes through: According to Entain’s March 2025 annual report, the estimated value of the New Zealand TAB licence assets was $2.7 billion NZD, including the potential introduction of the legislation. About GRNZ Greyhound Racing New Zealand is the governing body for greyhound racing in New Zealand and provides governance, support and assistance to the affiliated clubs in the sport of greyhound racing.https://bitofayarn.com The decision to end greyhound racing has significant economic and social consequences. The sport provides 1,054 full-time equivalent jobs and contributed $159.2 million to the economy in FY23. The Government announced on 10 December 2024, an intention to legislate to ban greyhound racing in New Zealand from 31 July 2026.

The simple test is go to the original article and view what parts were highlighted in bold. The bolding comes from BOAY.

But what does that statement actually mean? From my literacy challenged position it seems a nonsensical statement.

Cool. So the @Comic Dog edited your post with a cut and paste from here. It used to bug me but not anymore - I just find his duplicity extremely amusing!

Jan @Trojan looks like you have upset the @Comic Dog by allegedly "putting the slipper in" to Butch. Your post seems accurate and fair although Butch would say the Hawkes Bay issues rest with Balcombe.