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Chief Stipe

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  1. All good. Bus load organised from the Far North. Are any of these Roadshows at the same time as local race meetings? That would be a novel idea wouldn't it?
  2. Join NZTR's Bruce Sharrock and Darin Balcombe throughout New Zealand as they provide a strategic update. In September 2024, NZTR CEO Bruce Sharrock and COO Darin Balcombe will be undertaking Roadshows across the Northern, Central and Southern regions to meet with local stakeholders and provide a strategic update on NZTR activities. All industry participants are welcome, and we hope you gain some insights from the content covered leading into the most exciting summer racing carnival in New Zealand racing's history. SOUTHERN Wednesday 4 September: Invercargill | Ascot Park Raceway - First Floor Main Stand 12.00pm-2.00pm Thursday 5 September: Dunedin | Wingatui Racecourse - Winning Post Lounge 12.00pm-2.00pm Friday 6 September: Christchurch | Riccarton Racecourse - Gloaming Room 12.00pm-2.00pm NORTHERN Wednesday 11 September: Matamata | Matamata Racecourse - Epsom Lounge 12.00pm-2.00pm Monday 16 September: Karaka | New Zealand Bloodstock - Phar Lap Room 12.00pm-2.00pm CENTRAL Thursday 12 September: New Plymouth | New Plymouth Raceway - La Mer Lounge 10:30am-12:30pm Thursday 12 September: Palmerston North | RACE Awapuni -Terrace Lounge 4.30pm-6.30pm Friday 13 September: Hastings | Hastings Racecourse - Cheval Room 12.00pm-2.00pm Registrations close Wednesday 21 August. If you have any important questions or thoughts about topics you'd like to discuss, please email Sarah at Sarah.Young@nztr.co.nz before the date advised above. She will ensure that Bruce and Darin have time to consider them in advance of the Roadshows. We encourage you to register your attendance by clicking the blue button below. REGISTER YOUR ATTENDANCE FOR NZTR'S ROADSHOWS HERE Corporate Communications New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing Contact: Catlyn Calder +64 27 252 2803 New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing 18 Dick Street, Cambridge 3434 Email: office@nztr.co.nz
  3. Time for the peasants to revolt. Just talked to some Ruakaka Club people and they are pissed about losing two dates south.
  4. In your obsession you miss the point. Iron (Fe) does the same thing as Cobalt. Neither are a drug. They are a basic element essential to the production of blood. Suggest you go do your homework.
  5. Ironvita is NOT a drug. It is a dietary supplement. Legal at that.
  6. How can a track be "too deep"? How do you quantify that?
  7. Exactly as I thought. The meeting in February had more rain and they went ahead. Anna Duncan should talk to @Reefton
  8. With all due respect @freda in my opinion this is a serious topic and the sooner we all started thrashing it out and/or taking action the sooner we may see some change. In my opinion all I'm seeing is more of the same. Hopefully if I can convince @TAB For Ever to think differently then maybe that is a small step in the right direction.
  9. Really - Everybody? There is that marketing spin again. Well reducing them hasn't made things better has it. Perhaps we should have made more and engaged more communities, trainers and support staff. Was never going to be perfect because the descision was made on the wrong assumptions and incorrect evidence. Why was Kumara chosen overy Westland? The latter had an engaged community, cash in the bank and ran successful racedays. No I asked why is it so difficult. I also asked surely there is better technology available that doesn't involve the need for a Broadcast Van. How do you televise from some of those remote places in Australia where the distances between tracks are enormous. I suspect the issues in NZ are the product of old school thinking, a mates network and a poorly managed outsource contract over decades. You are so wrong regarding my interest in horses and racing. However that isn't the point. What motivates me is that I keep seeing gross mismangement of this industry and fat cats in suits getting fatter. The decline isn't anything to do with your theories on DNA and too many racecourse it is all to do with decades of mismanagement. Nope - it is well worth doing and I suggest you give it a go because what you will quickly see (assuming you take your murphy blinds off) is that we are repeating the same mistakes we have been making for 60 years. Nothing has changed. I think it was Churchill that said "the only thing we learn from history is we don't learn from history". Do you think it might be the time to do the opposite of what we are doing?
  10. I've changed my mind about you being a cost accountant. Are you in marketing? There was a crash on the Southern Motorway adding 3 extra hours to the float trip from Matamata. The races at Ellerslie weren't abandoned they were put back. I thought you were there? There were two detours - one for cars and small trucks and the other detour through Maungaturoto. Only added about 40mins to the drive. No it is pure bullshit. The Maungaturoto detour starts at the bottom of the Brynderwins. It wouldn't have been that much longer and the races would have gone ahead ON TIME! Saw them all. Lord Module would never have been allowed to race today due to animal welfare reasons. Grey Way and Copperbelt raced on farmer managed tracks on racedays that would have been abandoned today.
  11. Interests you little but you are happy to use it as an excuse for mismanagement. How many race meetings were abandoned January-June 2023? I can play with statistics too. From the records - June 2024: Nearly 42% of New Zealand’s regularly reporting stations observed below normal (50-79% of normal) or well below normal (<50% of normal) June rainfall. Why? They don't have a racecourse anymore (well they do but it isn't one of the select few). They were shifted to Hastings but woops... Yep and how many race meetings were abandoned at Hokitika over the years? By the way about 20km inland from Hokitika the NZ records for rainfall are held which make the East Coast look tame. 850mm in 24 hours. 566mm in 12 hours. 3000mm in a month. That water all flowed down the Hokitika river.
  12. As was pointed out to you but which your selective bias chooses to ignore is that Ironvita can be used on dogs and is sometimes recommended to be used on dogs. You could choose something more expensive that had the same contents but labeled to give to dogs such as https://www.hvhoofandequinehealthcareproducts.com/product-page/virbac-ironcyclen The grounds for appeal would be that the rule is non-specific - it is a catchall that in many respects is detrimental to the health and welfare of dogs. The second grounds would be that there is no evidence that Cobalt at the levels administered are performance enhancing. Answer this question: Why don't they test for Iron levels under the same catchall rule? Afterall following your logic Iron is an erythropoiesis enhancing agent. That's why many women take Iron supplements once a month. BTW there is 300x the amount of Iron in Ironvita than there is Cobalt.
  13. Where is the research? CITE THE RESEARCH. Emphasis mine. I can post two research studies that clearly show Cobalt had no effect on equine performance. I cannot find any research that supports that it does.
  14. Not you specifically but your views. @Yankiwi is doing the same with Greyhounds. You are both looking for stuff that isn't there and when solid proof/research is put up you double down. I admit I double double down as well. Why? Because I know that by far the majority of the people providing the product (trained horses and dogs) are NOT cheating. There is zero evidence found so far that Grimson is cheating for example. But when people go "wink wink nudge nudge - there's something going on there" and don't provide any evidence I vehemently go into fight for those that have been impugned. I have the wives of two very high profile trainers and some administrators ring me directly in tears about some of the stuff that is written online. If you have evidence of something then put it up. But don't hide behind an online avatar and don't expect me to even things up. Actually two weeks ago I meet a group of young up and coming workers at the coalface and they were grateful that someone does try and even things up.
  15. @TAB For Ever is full off...knowledge however he has that living in the past syndrome and takes Topics off topic at the drop of a hat. Also he has drinken so much of the Messara Koolaid he can't see past the fillies at the KM night. @the galah is fixated on the big as yet unproven conspiracy that there is wide spread lillegal use of PED's in NZ and OZ. I call him out everytime with well researched rebuttal Well @nomates doesn't like anyone disagreeing with him. I see he plays the party line elsewhere because he fired comments at the Comic Dog he'd be moderated. They all left on their own accord and @Thomass is the only one moderated. He knows why.
  16. Yes but that's because you were more often wrong than right! If I recall correctly your last spat occurred when you had a go at @Brodie ! Why does moderation worry you since you haven't posted anything in more than 7 months?!
  17. I might add that @JJ Flash said he liked what @the galah posted. Interestingly @JJ Flash never posted on any of those Topics!
  18. Hi All Well our old friend @JJ Flash has been doing some drive-by posting on BOAY. Basically shit stirring posts regarding @the galah and his absence. We all know that @the galah decided to stop posting and took exception to my very strong views on performance enhancing drug abuse in racing. Particularly the mess over INCA and the court cases in New York, the USA. Anyway it is @the galah 's right to bail out and I respect that hence my moderating of @JJ Flash posts on the subject. What I took exception to was @JJ Flash hasn't posted anything in 7 months on BOAY on any topic yet decides to post for obvious nefarious reasons. I've long suspected @JJ Flash and the Scooby Dog are as thick as thieves. So about a minute after explaining in an email to @JJ Flash why his new Topics were hidden the following gets posted on the other channel: I don't have a problem with anyone posting anywhere else but I do take exception to those who only have one objective when it comes to BOAY and that is to bring it down. Keep trying! As for Scooby - well one of these days I'll post a lot of stuff that will highlight his true character.
  19. Another conclusion from some research done in 2020 on racehorses: In the second component of the study, we investigated the effect of a Co dose sufficient to maintain plasma levels over 300 μg/l on performance and found no effect on indices of either aerobic or anaerobic performance.
  20. I'm extremely critical of the meme's you produce. As for Cobalt I wish someone would challenge the science on the issue when charged. It has cost millions of dollars to participants and the industry in Thoroughbred Racing both here and particularly in OZ. What if the Racing Stipes came out and said the truth - "Hey guys Cobalt does nothing to increase performance unless your dog or horse is anaemic. So you are wasting your time using it if you think you are getting an advantage. Also too much may have the opposite effect."
  21. Yes Pringle was cheating to administer Ironvita within 48 hours of a race however if he believes that it made a difference then the science suggests he is wrong. The Cobalt scandals have been the biggest beatups in racing in modern times. About all the administration of Cobalt would possibly do is help reduce anaemia in racing animals under stress from high performance training and racing. If ANYONE can cite a scientific research paper that shows the administration of Cobalt has increased the performace of a racehorse or greyhound I'd be interested to see it.
  22. This is an extract from a review (for @Yankiwi and @Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers education endogenous means naturally produced within the body of the animal): If cobalt could increase endogenous EPO production with achievable equine doses, then this would potentially confer a competitive advantage in equine sports. Typical equine doses of cobalt which might be clandestinely administered with the intent of performance enhancement cannot be accurately determined, since this information is not commonly made available. However, dose rates (based on interviews by author C.K. Fenger with trainers on the condition of anonymity) appear to range from occasional ‘low’ doses of 100 up to 400 mg cobalt chloride, typically diluted in 1000 ml of saline and administered by slow IV drip. According to regulators with the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission, ‘intelligence’ has revealed that repeated ‘high’ doses of as much as 4 mg/kg (1,800 mg total dose for a typical 450 kg horse) of cobalt chloride have been administered by rapid IV bolus (Waldridge, 2015). However, neither a single modest IV dose of 100 mg cobalt chloride (49 mg cobalt ion, Knych et al., 2015), nor a repeated high dose of 1.8 mg/kg cobalt chloride (810 mg cobalt ion for a typical 450 kg horse) every 4 days for 7 treatments (Waldridge, 2015) resulted in any haematologic effects in horses.
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