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And of course Pitty...living da dream! https://mobile.twitter.com/TAB_Racing/status/1139283021054373888

How good is that the Japanese are humanising their neddys...like 'BRIAN' in Oz Heres DEIRDRE...she's even managed to move the time of the race forward..so the Japan sun's can watch her before bedtime....even though she's 50/1! https://mobile.twitter.com/WHR/status/1139224481438810113

Of course your judgement is beyond reproach... ...telling me I shouldn't be criticising the Barrier Crew..."afterall they saved Taylor" ....or is it sad to comment on the death of a horse...where the Barrier Boys failed her?

Oh my...are you still allowed to post here? Just remind me..weren't you in charge when Bazz told me I should go kill myself? ...and you did absolutely NOTHING about it....in fact you and Pete said I was a "wall flower" get a grip on what is actually 'personal abuse' you idiot

Yea of course you have Bazz...now experimenting with PLACE betting... ...what would your Rangatira say about that one I wonder? ...and then we have your 'tips' "horrendous runs" Herman managed to find a 10/1 winner somewhere in the "horrendous " and thought I should shut the f up... hahahaha oh how we larfed

It's a rollicking great site actually......where posters can actually DISAGREE with each other.... ...you should see Herman's one...almost solely a comp site....full of posters who have either been banned elsewhere or can't handle the truth.... ....powder puffs at 5 paces... ...I never thought of you as a wall flower Bazz...you give bogan a bad name...

Every comm have their own affectation though...If Simon says... " the money right on the lolly" again...the cat gets it...ok? As was pointed out by Hedley...lolly is money so it's like saying "money on the money" ...nonsense What a commentator here should do is deadset copy the Kentucky Derby call "and DOWN the stretch they come"... It needs to be introduced to the Keewee Thoroughbred vernacular...on the race of the day...every day... ...hair raising spine tingling stuff Da Boyz wear Plaid would piss themselves with excitement...and that's what we need

It's high time that cesspit of a WANGANUI track got the DCM... Just water the outside 5M and have some fair racing....or go to FOXTON...what's wrong with this Industry?

Wtf are you on about? This site is about serious issues and fun...not some juvenile crowd having a few tweeny bets...ffs...f off

Anyone who doesn't know ROYAL ASS KIT is the mecca of Thoroughbred is as stupid az turny and the Schrew put together

Bazz and his rangatira are in deep post race analysis as we speak....schuuuuu

Alors ( so)...mon amie ( my friend)... benevolent ( kindly)... "absolutely spanked"...beaten red raw... "Rangatira"...your master martymcfly.. Grneva Convention...signed between warring Countries to avoid "cruel punishment" ...and "unusual"... ..those 2 morons left who believe the 'rails' was ok today...and the outside at Te Rapa... Comprendez??

This heading was changed by the Chuff because of his Lutheran upbringing... I prefer the phonetic ASS KIT...ok Chuff? As annunciated by the f In Queen...ok? ASS KIT

What a good looker this boy is... FRANKIE BLUE EYES...by Tavistock...first start tomorrow at Geelong....

What a great article...let's see...USA the land of the free to do anything they damn well want thanks...or Japan....mmmmm Why the Japanese breeding mindset is so much better for the long-term health of horse racing Nancy Sexton | JUNE 11, 2019 SHARE Slow burner: would the 2010 King George winner Harbinger have had such success as a stallion anywhere other than in Japan? Photo: Shadai Stallion Station/J Fukuda Imagine a world where the aim is to breed the best athlete. One where soundness and longevity in the horse are celebrated. Unfortunately, many breeders in Europe feel they have to produce with the sale ring in mind if they are to survive. Shocking levels of prize money don’t help; the faster horse with the ability to come to hand quickly is often the favoured target of middle-to-lower market buyers, many of them pinhookers. As such, our industry would rather cluster behind a series of cheap G3-winning sprinters at stud over a Derby winner such as Ruler Of The World. Which is why it was so refreshing to visit Japan, a country where the idea of breeding a supreme athlete remains top of the agenda. An in-depth knowledge of Japanese racing is not needed to appreciate the regard that the tough middle-distance horse is held in. Rarely will high-end breeders embrace a horse who retires after two seasons of racing. Instead it is a long career, one that invariably includes a strong performance over two miles, that is often influential in dictating a horse’s popularity with breeders. Overwhelming presence There is probably no better example than the Shadai Stallion Station’s Deep Impact, an overwhelming presence within Japan as his sire, Sunday Silence, was before him. Out of an excellent 12-furlong performer in Wind In Her Hair, Deep Impact’s victories ranged from the Satsuki Sho (Japanese 2000 Guineas) over 10f to the Tenno Sho (Spring) over two miles. In between, he also won the Tokyo Yushun (Japanese Derby over 12f), Japan Cup (12f) and Kikuka Sho (Japanese St Leger over 15f). The idea of mile-and-a-half G1 winners warranting a fair crack at stud is alien enough to many breeders in Europe, let alone ones able to carry their speed over two miles. Now 17 years old, Deep Impact was priced at 40,000,000yen (£290,000) this year as he continues to remain Japan’s answer to Galileo. Unfortunately, his season was cut short by a neck injury, but on the track it remains business as usual, with Roger Barows’ victory in the Tokyo Yushun helping to ensure that his sire heads into the summer with a healthy advantage over his rivals as he goes in pursuit of an eighth consecutive Japanese sires’ championship. Among those poised to assume Deep Impact’s mantle when the time comes is Almond Eye’s sire, Lord Kanaloa, a different kind of animal, who excelled over 6f. Yet, in keeping with the Japanese desire to prolong a horse’s career, he packed in 13 wins in 19 starts over the course of four seasons. Lord Kanaloa’s presence on the Shadai roster alongside Deep Impact underlines just how powerful the Yoshida machine has become. Daiwa Major, who represents a fusion of two true Shadai forces in Sunday Silence and Northern Taste, remains the only stallion to break Deep Impact’s hold on the leading 2yo sires’ list and has a current star to his credit in recent NHK Mile Cup winner Admire Mars. Another son of Sunday Silence, Heart’s Cry, has forged an excellent domestic record while striking international notoriety as the sire of Woodward Stakes winner Yoshida - hopefully he will one day be available to Kentucky breeders. In the meantime, encouragement can be gleaned from the start made by an older son of Heart’s Cry in Just A Way, another tough and versatile customer who has already been showcased to an international audience via the American exploits of his first-crop son, Master Fencer. The need for patience That’s just a snapshot of the power within the Shadai roster. And, although the farm has added American speedsters such as Drefongand Mind Your Biscuits in recent years, it is notable how many of the roster stay true to the Japanese ideal: big, strong middle-distance horses with the bone and action to go with it. Naturally, however, such horses often require a need for patience, and the question has to be asked as to whether Harbinger would have been quite so effective elsewhere. The runaway King George winner of 2010, Harbinger was sold to stand at Shadai in a multi-million pound deal. By Dansili, he had been a later maturing middle-distance horse who had failed to run as a juvenile, none of which would have sat well within the commercial market further west, and, although he was Japan’s leading first-crop sire by earnings in 2014, a first crop of 148 foals contained just three stakes winners. Indeed, Harbinger was a slow burner; by the time his first crop turned five in 2017, he had just four stakes winners to his credit. Yet, for one reason or another, he has since enjoyed a major upturn in fortunes to the extent that his stud record today comprises five G1 winners, led by Deirdre and Persian Knight. Each of the quintet hail from his third and fourth crops, foaled in 2014 and 2015. Would the U.S. and European markets have been quite so forgiving? Maybe I’m being harsh, but I suspect not. Of course, anyone connected with the industry worldwide is well aware that not every decision works out. For instance, a slew of Epsom Derby winners sourced during the 1990s, notably Generous, Dr Devious, Erhaab, Lammtarra and Oath, did little to enhance the Japanese Thoroughbred. Against that, acquiring Sunday Silence back in 1990 was a masterstroke. However, that dark son of Halo is also proof that sometimes you can have too much of a good thing; look no further than the country’s premier auction, the upcoming JRHA July Select Sale, in which approximately 80 lots catalogued carry inbreeding to the great stallion, up from 63 in 2018. At the time of writing, six of his sons also sit within the top ten Japanese sires. Such domination, for all its value, does intensify the need for an outcross, and it is probably no coincidence that the outlying quartet - Harbinger and King Kamehameha alongside his sons Lord Kanaloa and Rulership - have plied their trade by working so effectively with Sunday Silence line mares. Lord Kanaloa and Harbinger are two excellent examples, having sired G1 winners Almond Eye, Saturnalia, Deirdre and Persian Knight out of such mates. One of the strongest broodmare bands worldwide Hopes obviously now run high that Deep Impact’s legacy will be secured via his sons. While one of his first major names to stud, Derby winner Deep Brillante, has made a lukewarm start to his stud career, there are a series of other sons waiting in the wings, notably Kizuna, Real Impact (also a shuttler to Arrowfield Stud in Australia) and Spielberg, all of whom have first 2yos this year. Real Impact is already off the mark, while there is seemingly a fine word for the progeny of the 2013 Derby hero Kizuna, whose first crop made up to 50,760,000yen (£370,000/$470,000) at the recent Chiba 2YO Sale and was recently represented by his first winner on the JRA circuit. Meanwhile in Europe, 2000 Guineas winner Saxon Warrior was understandably popular at a fee of €30,000 in his first season at Coolmore in Ireland. It also can’t be forgotten that decades of pursuing some of the best racemares to grace America and Europe have resulted in the accumulation of a seriously powerful collection of bloodstock. That in particular relates to the Yoshida family, whose farms are homes to surely one of the strongest broodmare bands worldwide. Such animals, the result of determination and wealth, have obviously helped play a part in making Japan a world player. But I can’t help thinking that, with their desire to see older horses race on over a variety of trips, they also have the right mindset for success. For instance, nowhere in Japan will you find a colt who has retired to stud at two. Ultimately that has to enhance the breed while undoubtedly strengthening an already appreciative fan base, which, as anyone can tell you, are two vital components to the health of the sport.

..nearly Wednesday early morning!! Great preview of O'Brain's mob...just get on.... ...Oh then there's Pitty and his mob of 'working class' folk....with top hat and tails!! How good is it the Hoi polloi from the Colonial State of real Colonials...Southern Noi Ziland... ...gets to mix with the Toffs?? Xx https://ascot.attheraces.com/stable-tours/aidan-o'brien

I'm feeling a little benevolent to my olde bff Bazz... I hate seeing some f'er getting absolutely spanked...besides it's agin the Geneva Convention...under 'cruel punishment' Bazz's rangatira has spoken on this...So hold your piece for a quick 10 second read...and then you can burst out larfing... One person writes how it exists. And barryb asks how you can gain from it. To which no usable answer is provided.How does a bias based on part of the track being faster help a punter. How do they determine the change in chance this affords a runner and then determine whether the price is now value where it wasn't value before.I'd agree tracks provide areas that are faster. Every track is likely to do this to some degree. I don't agree there are leaders bias though. Just track condition potential bias. Something I ignore since I don't control the jockey.How does a punter do three key things. 1. Assess the degree of advantage to a horse that races on that.2. Assess the horses that aren't going to get to race on that ( since point 1 will provide no advantage over the other horses getting to use the same 'faster ground')3. How do I bring 1 and 2 together to work out the change in chance for a horse.I bet they do a Thomas, and guess these things.It's useless information.If the rail moves in 3m - does that mean a horse I think will run 1.11.2 that has drawn barrier 2 will now run 1.11.0? And will a horse that I think will run 1.11.1 that is a back runner and has drawn 10, now be expected to run 1.11.4 due to the state of the track on the inside.I can certainly guess this after the race. Before, nope. And as per the other thread, neither can the supporters of the idea. So take today... ...any Punter who has whittled their % chances down to 2 combatants.. ...one has drawn the rail the other the outside.... ...and then ignores how badly off the rail neddy will be... has f in rocks in their noggins... Its lunatic stuff...and these 2 have the audacity to say "do something the rest don't do to win" ...they'll be increasing the rails neddy's chances today then.... hahahaha

He does the actual formlines but he doesn't do the comments as well I don't think?

BLOODY BIASED BARRY'S BIAS agin BIAS BLUNDERERS another BLOODY BET... Thatll be on ya punting tombstone Bazz... ...look even your bff dude Neilzy talks about it I advised subscribers to take a wide berth on Te Rapa and Trentham yesterday which turned out to be badly biased. Having said that though, on top selections Sultan Of Swing, $8.50, and Italian Lover $9 into $6s did win well at good value. If you were watching Trentham, New York Minute became the lay of the day when drawing the inside with the young apprentice on. The outside was clearly the place to be so that was a good case of watching for the bias developing and finding a strong lay ( to lose ) bet. And well done to Dr Watson, Sylvia Kay and the young apprentice to win that race.

Look out...da SHARK's back...and stronger...just give him an invite now Mr Cox A bigger, stronger and potentially faster Te Akau Shark is cruising in his comeback preparation but remains at the mercy of the weather as connections consider an Australian spring assault. The rising five-year-old has claims to being New Zealand's best horse but his career has been held back to just six starts by a string of immaturity problems, which have so far halted his return to racing in 2019. Trainer Jamie Richards said that Te Akau Shark's spring could be dictated by track conditions, with the team leaning towards the $1 million Epsom Handicap at Randwick in the first week of October being the initial Group 1 target in Australia before he comes to Melbourne for the Cox Plate. "We are just mindful that the horse does appreciate some give in the ground," Richards said on Wednesday morning. "He can probably handle a run or two on better tracks but he's certainly not the horse that will be racing on a firm track every second week. "He's still a bit of a day-to-day proposition. He's obviously had a few immaturity issues in the past and we are mindful of that so we'll just see how he trials up and go from there. "I think if we space his races and look after him, there should be no troubles there. We've just got to take him along nice and quietly." Te Akau Shark (NZ) Trainer J.Richards Age 4YO Sex Gelding Colour Chestnut Prize Money $222,871 Last 5 -111- Career 6-5-0-0 POS Jockey Track Date DIST Race WGT MRG Odds 1 – 11 O.P.Bosson RICC 14 NOV 18 1600m COUPLANDS BAKER 58.5kg L T1-1 1 – 12 M.T.Coleman HAST 6 OCT 18 1400m RED BADGE SPRIN 53kg L T1-1 1 – 10 R.S.Rusof HAST 1 SEP 18 1200m RATING 82 60kg L T1-2 4 – 12 M.J.McNab RICC 11 NOV 17 1600m NZ 2000 GUINEAS 56.5kg 1.9L T2-3 1 – 8 O.P.Bosson MATA 14 OCT 17 1400m 3YO SW+P 57.5kg L T1-1 Te Akau Shark, a winner of five of his six starts who leading jockey Opie Bosson said was potentially the best horse he has ridden, came back into work in New Zealand four weeks ago with stablemate and fellow Cox Plate aspirant Melody Belle. The horse's autumn was shelved when he failed to find his form, but Richards said the horse has done some growing up in his time in the paddock. "He was 590 kilos when he came back in, so he's a pretty big horse now," he said. "There was nothing that you can really pin-point (in the autumn) but he went off the boil a little bit and he's done that to us a couple of times, so we've just got to space his races and look after him." Richards said the Te Akau Shark will race where the conditions suit best. "There's usually a bit of rain up there in Sydney," he said. "We've spoken about the Epsom and probably making that his target up to a mile and then assess things from there." Then it's off to Melbourne for the Cox Plate three weeks later. Te Akau Shark has never been beyond 1600 metres, but Richards said the distance of the Cox Plate - 2040m - is hardly a concern. "He's by Rip Van Winkle, who is a staying stallion, out of a stout New Zealand family, so I don't think 2000 metres should be a problem," he said. Richards said he was confident the horse's motor was still there but that the team will know more in the coming weeks. "He's done a month back in the stable," he said. "He did three weeks up at the beach and he's coming up well. He's ready to trial mid-July and then assess our options. "Everything is still on the table at this stage."

Bazz likes a good olde rastle though ATA... ...more than likely in the hay...and then a good olde world spanking to finish no doubt... After all..where he's been it's so insipidly boring that even disagreeing is agin da law.. Herman won't allow it... it's wall to wall wall flower v tinker bells... with a powder puff pillow full of star dust for the combatants... poof poof ouch...is about as rastly as it gets... he's lurving it here

You can understand the frustration...when a neddy stands on ya toes...in the pissing down rain... ...and your hot dogs gone cold...and ya chips are soggy... ...but it's not a good look to even threaten a horse at the races....with your fist and clenched teeth.... ..imagine what goes on when the cameras are well off then..l

While you're there TAB lacky, stooge, operative, b/s purveyor... Csn you let Stephanie Hunt know that Punters laugh uproariously whenever he says " we've been 'TRADING' this horse" .... No no no..lTrading is the Sharemarket....everyone can GET ON.... ...and there's not a shred of BANNING Just pass that on...And tell him to just STOP please... laughing ones ass off continuously is not good for the health thanks

Haha you're on Twitter Thad...Andy...Hunt?? Which TAB lacky? Not Rodley? Shirley?

Maybe I am..maybe I'm not...what's it to you? Are you or 99? Lets get to the nitty though Why should a single punter...using the same stake as BGP...get either banned or restricted...and these boyz not? Whats to say the single punter has a number of mates as well boosting his stake??