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Note the perfect juxtaposition Bazz... NL and Money Trail...both drew 14... NL caught 4 wide without cover..MT scoots to the lead...on the faster rail surface Hawton before the race..."MT drawn wide but by that time should be better out there" No no no...Jaz knew the on pace rail bias was the place to be...Hawton was cruising it in Synders and knew nothing about it... Alors...you use 'theory' in selecting every day...it's part of the process...PUNTING 101... ..you simply theorise that on pace runners win most races and have a better chance...just like Gai... I simply can't understand why you wouldn't increase the chances of a neddy drawn on a faster part of the ground...both on pace runners....and one drawn out Of course you'd substantially increase the % chance... but you do counterintuitive so well...you wouldn't

I have to use subterfuge and disguises...and even have to sleep with agents as hot az 99...tough jobies but some f'er has to do it... Even you walked the Whanganui track..decided it was 6/7 on the outside...but 11 on the rails... ...if you were a real prat...you could have kept that info to yourself.... ..a bit like Allpress does...and fear enough..she puts in the walk and keeps that to herself...a true pro... So I'm sick of the secrecy that the Track Managers use to disguise the true nature of the Track... ...just like the RIU...who refuse to label HOLDING tracks in their reports.... ...even though it's a 'thang'...and some horse's hate that...but like it loose az a goose ...a bit like you Andy

Yea that!!

And get this.. ...it could have been a good idea...but that requires... CONSISTENT relevant info from Managers talking about the same thing every video ...which they don't...some even mention the exact pen reading...some forget to mention the last rail position... ...and today...no RUAKAKA video Iconsistent, amatuer Videos for a 'feel good' spruiked NZTR sideshow

Crusher is way past her Oravida best before date Freda... Whilst Keewees historically love a so called 'strong leader' ...to hide their inferiority complex's... Crush has too much baggage...which even hides her ample ass from sticking out... Paula Beneficiary could be a goer...but she looks like something out of Star Trek now...everything's plasticky....and we know Plastic's out... ...look to the Baldy guy sitting directly behind Beneficiary in Parly...he's ready to backstab Paul and leapfrog over the 2 in front of him ..no baggage...a new face...you heard it here first...just get on

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if you're Andy Lacypants.... ...same syntax...same TAB stooge....figjam and lover of the BGL boyz...and 2 Girls... While you're there.... I hear Thad is about to get the hell out of the crumbling TAB building and heading Weatward Ho...can you confirm? Before he goes...can you ask him if he's still talking up "the silence is deafening" when defending the indefensible TAB? thanks

Exactly Bazz.. This is the crux of the matter...and ATA has demonstrated the entire scenario beautifully...it's like I've got a twin! NO LOITERING was always going to be caught wide being an on pace runner... ...in the inferior ground..you know...as evidenced by the pen readings which I got hold of... "Caught 4wide without cover"..that's the form line that you'll totally ignore As we all know you and your BFF grasshead...Are pig ignorant Grasshead..."how come they race without cover in Harness" hahahaha ...either before the 'expected scenario' or after....when analysing the performance...you ignore it You were very unlucky..it didn't draw the fast lane then...but most Punters rightly dismissed its chances when drawing wide... ...ON A FAST LANE TRACK BIAS Read that over and over again...in fact tattoo that on your noggin

Actually after reading your other posts I'm a bit suspicious you're a TAB operative?? They're all bent to the lovey boyz there...Thad is it? Do you still think the TAB is like a supermarket...and that you believe in restricting Punters to 2 Baked Beans per visit So to speak? when in fact if the TAB were 'dinky dye' bookies they'd take most bets...then lay off the big numbers with other bookies...just as they did in the old days? Theres got to be a law against advertising 'Big bets' as well doesn't there?? ..telling us 10k is on such and such neddy...to win So and so...but then ban Punters who actually do win overall?? Its an inconceivable rort if that's the case is it not Thad?

Supposedly a Broadcasting line...All time Great Bowler...West Indian Michael Holding v WILLEY the English Batsman..never happened though! Anyhow, Holding was one of the best athletes of his generation..and beautiful to watch the sheer smoothness of his gait..and who knew? A Thoroughbred devotee! As he looks forward to joining the Sky Sports Racing team at Royal Ascot, cricket legend turned broadcaster Michael Holding discusses his lifelong love of horse racing and his close friendship with top trainer Sir Michael Stoute in an exclusive interview with Simon Mapletoft. Royal Ascot - Features Share this williamhill Up to £30 in free bets Speed and supreme athleticism are qualities that have always been synonymous with cricketing great Michael Holding. Through the Seventies and Eighties, the man they called ‘Whispering Death’ terrorised the world’s best batsmen with his ability to catapult deliveries from his towering frame at almost 100mph. The Jamaican still holds the record for returning his team’s best bowling figures in a Test Match: 14 wickets for 149 runs for his beloved West Indies against beleaguered England at The Oval in the scorching summer of 1976. These days Holding, a lifelong racing fan, immerses himself in appreciating the prowess of the top-class thoroughbreds trained by his close friend Sir Michael Stoute -a leader in his chosen field and, having grown up in Barbados, a passionate lover of cricket. Holding, who prefers to be known simply as ‘Mikey’, has even made his home in racing’s most famous heartland of Newmarket, and when he’s not gracing the airwaves on Sky Sports Cricket he can be found on the town’s gallops at the crack of dawn with Stoute’s army of blue bloods. This year he will add a new string to his bow when he joins the Sky Sports Racing presentation team for two days of Royal Ascot on Tuesday 18th and Wednesday 19th June. Sky Sports Racing presenter Simon Mapletoft delves deeper. So Mikey, how far back does your love of racing go? I have been involved in racing since I was ten year’s old, that's more than fifty years, and used to go to Caymanas Park in Jamaica with friends. Before I joined Derbyshire in 1985 I had horses in training with Nigel Nunes in Jamaica. I had a bit of success and two of my horses reached a pretty good level out there. Under Cover was a good middle-distance horse and Bunny’s Halo was also a decent sprinter. Through Nigel and his son, Andrew, I met Ronald Burke, who trained in Barbados and knew Stoutey. How did you and Sir Michael meet? Ronald called me when I was at Derbyshire and arranged for the two of us to visit Michael’s stables and that was the start of our friendship. I loved going to the yard in those early days. I used to travel to Newmarket when I wasn’t playing. It was a great buzz for me and I was instantly hooked. Some years later, when I joined Sky’s Cricket broadcast team in the late Nineties, I rented a house right opposite his Freemason Lodge Stables and now live just a few minutes’ drive away. Michael Holding PrevNext Team Stoute For over 30 years Holding has been close friends with trainer Sir Michael Stoute and has also witnessed the rise of Ryan Moore. Estimate Stoute's handling of Gold Cup winner Estimate was a great example of his patient approach to training. Jamaican giants Chris Gayle, pictured with Holding, has the support of a young team in what will be his last World Cup. Whispering Death Holding's silent approach, astonishing speed and pinpoint accuracy made him every batsman's most-feared rival. Sky Sports Cricket Joining Sky Sports' Cricket broadcast team in the 1990s led to Holding to basing himself in Newmarket. Team Stoute For over 30 years Holding has been close friends with trainer Sir Michael Stoute and has also witnessed the rise of Ryan Moore. Estimate Stoute's handling of Gold Cup winner Estimate was a great example of his patient approach to training. Jamaican giants Chris Gayle, pictured with Holding, has the support of a young team in what will be his last World Cup. Whispering Death Holding's silent approach, astonishing speed and pinpoint accuracy made him every batsman's most-feared rival. Sky Sports Cricket Joining Sky Sports' Cricket broadcast team in the 1990s led to Holding to basing himself in Newmarket. Team Stoute For over 30 years Holding has been close friends with trainer Sir Michael Stoute and has also witnessed the rise of Ryan Moore. After all these years do you still enjoy watching the horses on the gallops? I never tire of it. I’d rather be out on the gallops than go racing if I’m honest. I do enjoy a day at the races - I had a great time with Investec at the Derby and I’m really looking forward to working with the Sky Sports Racing team at Royal Ascot, but there’s something special about being on the heath, rain or shine. I’ve come to know so many trainers in the town and it’s great to have a laugh with the likes of John Gosden, Michael Bell, William Haggas and Ed Dunlop. On work mornings I’m out with the string at 5.30, and every other morning they pull out at 6.30 so I get a bit longer in bed. I give the work riders a leg up if they need one, and I’m happy to hold the horses while they’re being washed off after exercise. I love it, man! What’s it like to shadow one of the world’s greatest trainers? In the early days Stoutey used to ride his hack out on the heath and I would follow him on a bicycle. Now he goes everywhere in the car and I jump in beside him. He’s very focussed on the horses when he’s watching them going through their paces but as soon as he’s back in the car all he wants to talk about is cricket. One important thing I learned about him a long time ago is that he’s very superstitious and hates the colour green. He won’t let anyone drive onto the yard in a green car and he won’t be happy if you turn up in a green hat or green boots. I have to make sure I’m wearing the right colours, you know! Stoutey prefers the Limekilns when they’re open and likes to make sure his horses are there first, which is why they pull out so early. His attention to detail is second to none but his greatest strength is his ability to recognise talent in a horse that needs time and patience. The Queen’s filly Estimate was a perfect example. She didn't show much speed as a two-year-old. He used to let her work by herself in her own time because he saw something in her that no one else did. What she needed was time to grow and mature and it was wonderful to see her go on and win the Gold Cup for him in the royal colours. You’ve also developed a friendship with Ryan Moore; is he as intense as he appears to be? I’ve seen Ryan develop into one of, if not the best jockey in the world. Over the years I’ve got to know him well and although he appears very quiet to the outside world and doesn’t enjoy being interviewed he is very good company. Ryan speaks a lot of sense about many things, not just horse racing, and has opened my eyes to certain things. When he’s working he’s very intense, like all great sportsmen. Sometimes I will go racing with him in the car to Yarmouth or Nottingham, and we’ll always have a good conversation, but when he gets to the track he gets into the zone and switches on. He can walk past me to the parade ring and not even say ‘hello’. I’ve tried to explain to him that his many fans would love to hear more of his thoughts about the horses he rides and racing in general. He’s very knowledgeable, but he shies away from the cameras and that’s just the way he is. Stoutey is similar. By the time the reporter has asked the second question he’s already walking away, but you couldn’t wish for better company around the dinner table. It looks as though Sir Michael has a potentially strong team for Royal Ascot this year? It does. Plans are still fluid for a few of his horses. Stoutey has a great record at the Royal Meeting but it’s a tough place to go and he’s willing to wait for better opportunities if he thinks certain horses aren’t ready. He acknowledges that it’s a long season and particularly likes to target the big races later in the summer like the Ebor Festival at York. Which of his horses have been catching your eye en route to Ascot? I’m pretty excited by Jubiloso, who has the credentials to be top class. She was very impressive when she won her novice at Newbury by seven lengths, but is still relatively inexperienced. If she runs in the Coronation Stakes she’s going to come up against Aidan O’Brien’s dual Guineas winner Hermosa, who looks very special. She hasn’t done a lot since Newbury, just a few canters, so we’ll have to wait and see. Mustashry is a typical Stoute horse; six years old and he goes and wins the Lockinge. When he kept him in training I knew he’d recognised something in the horse so when I did an interview on Trinidad radio before the race I told the listeners to back him and I hope they all did. The form of that race is better than some people think - he beat Laurens comfortably - and he’ll run a big race in the Queen Anne. There’s another big race in Crystal Ocean who is in the Prince Of Wales’s Stakes and the Hardwicke. It might be a case of trying to avoid the O’Brien horses as much as possible as we'd want Ryan onboard, but I think this horse can win a Group 1. Ryan likes him and he also holds an entry in the Eclipse next month. Sun Maiden is coming into her own now. Ryan was very excited about her last year but she was immature and needed time. She seems bigger this year and, being by Frankel, has a beautiful pedigree. She’s in the Hardwicke as well but I’m not sure what Stoutey will do. Another horse I really like is Zaaki who came into the yard last year and has run some really good races. He had a few little problems but everything’s been easier with him this year - no hiccups - and he was very impressive for Ryan at Epsom. He’s one to follow. As well as the racing it’s an exciting summer of cricket on Sky Sports with the World Cup now underway. Do you think England can justify favouritism? On paper England should win it. They’ve got a very strong team and the format should see the best teams come out on top. Having said that, one-day cricket is very unpredictable but that’s what makes the competition so exciting. Jofra Archer, their latest rising star, has impressed me. He looks the real deal. He has serious pace but good control and I like his action. He’s nice and smooth and economical. Your beloved West Indies also made a good start but do they have what it takes to progress? There is a lot of talent in the team and Chris Gayle is still hitting the ball a long way so it doesn’t matter that he doesn’t like to run much. It’ll be his last World Cup so I hope he makes some big scores. I’ve been pleased with Oshane Thomas’s bowling. He has serious pace and is coming along nicely but needs a bit more control to become an even better player; he’s still young so it’s all a learning process. There is so much pressure on Chris Gayle to score runs but with the likes of Darren Bravo, Shai Hope, Shimron Hetmyer and Andrew Russell doing well I think they will also make an impact. Later this summer you’ll be joining the Sky Sports Cricket team for the Ashes Series, too. I’m looking forward to watching some good Test cricket. It promises to be a well balanced series and with England being on home soil they can be confident. But Australia’s strength could be their fast bowling with the left-armer Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins both capable of causing a lot of problems for the England batsmen. I’m looking forward to it but I’m concentrating on Royal Ascot first. I’ll be doing my homework so I can find the Sky Sports Racing viewers a few winners. Royal Ascot a summer highlight for racing fan and cricket legend Holding Royal Ascot - Features

June 10 1978...Belmont Stakes...a battle Bonecrusher/ Waverley Star like... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d2sjDivffYE

Shit..time flies az they say!! And at the pace they go they sure don't let fly poo on them... They're soooo good at getting into the Hearts and mindz of not only the YG's.... ..but the TAB's Johnny Allen though HTF haven't they been BANNED or heavily restricted from betting yet?? Seeing az any normal Joe WINNING Punter gets the DCM... Of course the answer is the shocking publicity that would generate...these Boyz and odd girly... ..would just bugger off and bet on some sports stuff...spreading their loads So to speak Here though...Da Boyz have wee Johnny Allen and Thad...wrapped round their wee fingers... ...while Av. Joe Punter gets the Royal ass Good work if you can get it... https://mobile.twitter.com/Kemeys/status/1138198112302854145

Too true...if our neddys were taught to stay close and on the trit trot quickstep... Im picking the reverse, counter intuitive, barrier idea that Trentham operates is the idea of The Jumping Association and Den Ryan though... ...but they forgot to tell anyone else...including Punters...who keep the Jumping game going... " just get on Punters...forget the starts...but you better factor that in to your punting...allowing some may get a jump on the field...oh and then fall on the flat in some puddles....oh yea and then fail to see the sighter boards as they're the wrong colour for horses... ...Just factor all that stuff in and you'll be tickety boo hoo"

The milk and honey is just a quick trip across the Tassie?? Sweat Pea and Pike continually do it for the right horses... They now have to ask themselves...especially in light of things like Climate change Do they want to get lost in the big city...Among dust, drought and pestilence that awaits them in the future ... ..or bask in the brilliant new climate Kiwis and their neddy's are about to enjoy...apart from their coastal bach's that will soon become flooded however.. ...and do the quick trip thing for the right horse?

You need to let this viaduct obsession go mate.... ..attacking a poor neddy because you don't like hanging with the viaduct crowd is disgraceful... ...besides your giving the viaduct crowd what they want...attention just ignore the latte suckers... ..."donkeys" are what you get in the Harness so called 'sport'...certainly not Thoroughbreds

There, don't you feel better already? You've turned a disgusting dismissive soul destroying line..into a thing of beauty... For a second there I thought you were referring to McCahon's classic NZ art piece... I AM....but you just forgot to join a couple of words up... However you've accidently stumbled into the DARK v LIGHT argument which is what I AM is all about The DARKNESS of your previous lingo....v your new found LIGHT Of course taking it further as it relates to your PUNTING... ...the continual battle to choose between 2 40/1 shots...and opting for the wrong one as you did in the Breeders Stakes... You were DARKNESS personified after that...when you could have simply seen the LIGHT...as moi did many eons ago...and backed both.... Anyway here's the masterpiece...no not moi's blueprint...I AM in all its glory...look deeply...enjoy

Here's a list that may help your propensity to cuss unexpectedly and without due care Bazz... best

And then Smart asses capture moments in time...where some unkind people could label another Cindy photo

How perfectly adorable is nature sometimes?

How ironic was it SIR WINSTON winning the Belmont?? Sir Winnie will undoubtedly receive one after securing his legacy with the Reform Bill ...by then Slimon would have been pole axed by Crusher...and aged wrinkling mare ready for the knackers yard.... joy o joy

Didn't have time to listen to a half hour interview Dark...what was the gist?

Too true!! But that'd be too obvious and undermine their opinion they're World class 'flag starters' who can follow the Starters Manual rules as set down in sub section 5 (ii) "Common sense rules...ok?" When in fact reversing the Barrier order is the thing to do...a counterintuitive move where Punters could possibly expect the left hand Course rule applies... in all circumstances? ...and starting the field on the point of the turn...facing the stand instead of the first fence...which makes the inside horse...who drew the outside barrier... ...an advantaged combatant...I.e. they're at least 20M closer to the first jump... ...where Punters finally realising this after years of f ups...think they've got it covered by backing an on pace runner who drew one...but in reality had a 20M penalty at the start.... ...sorry for repeating meself but I'm still trying to get my head around their 'common sense' understanding... ..and then keeping in mind RIU's Godber's statement that... "Punters should factor in Flag starts possible unfairness...and it doesn't matter if some runners get a 20m start...over such a long distance" Similar to that

I get all my secreted information on a confidential basis only...You of all people should know that 99.... If I was to publish them Bart would be hauled over by Rutherford...after NZTR's been in his ear after releasing secreted information... And the Track Managers Association would then blast the leak having their brand new system of video b/s undermined....by facts And you can't let FACTS get in the way of flash new video bullshyte... savvy?

No shit...It was a 'generic' Allpress you bogan Rodley did an 'Allpress'...sticking HQ the other day and came up with.. "it looks like they've watered the outside 5 M...or its worse drainage" So he had a massive Allpress FAIL...couldn't be bothered arksing Fulford the simple question

And this from Neil Davis...of course we should know the difference between a deep H19 and a close to H10...which is an H11....wtf is wrong with these suits?? It all about betting with CONFIDENCE in the Winter... ...but the RIU and NZTR don't have a clue about being accurate let alone transparent "We have a very heavy 11 track to bet on today. I wish they would give punters a better indication of just how heavy it is. Even just a call from the track manager that it is likely to be a 1.16 for 1200m track and they are likely to get away from the inside by race 4 would give punters something to work with. Yes, he could get it wrong but he works on the patch of turf most days so can give an educated guess. Are they just too scared to to make a call? It doesn’t matter if they get it wrong! As long as we know it is based on past meetings in similar conditions, then we as punters are a very forgiving bunch, so just give us the information or we just can’t bet with much confidence at all until we see how the early races pan out in terms of times and bias." Neil Davis Formpro

Just forget all the machinations for a start bazzo...and deal with something you might understand..like basic shit If the rail's 'on'...and the outside is off...and Allpress goes out with her stick... ...does her sticking..then finds out exactly that.... ...then wtf are punters not being told basic Shit like that? thanks