Hard Times

Well in terms of trainers we want and trainers the code to do without there's not much debating about Ms Flipp http://jca.org.nz/non-race-day-hearings/non-raceday-inquiry-riu-v-mj-flipp-reserved-penalty-decision-and-reasons-dated-2-september-2014/

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/disregard-your-stakeholders-peril-penny-clark-hall/?published=t I like the message. The fact is the only ones who can really fix this sport and probably save it are us.

I'm wondering if the Association feels powerless to restrict overbreeding? Would that open them up to lawsuits etc?

There is but if integrity itself cannot be agreed on then we really are a long way further up the creek than the map suggested

Could'nt have been used as a defense as the lure driver was complicit

I don't think Deb was on trial?

Any links to this court process

Not trying to stir shit just trying to make sense of why on earth you'd trial a dog with an injury. Now that's negligence. This is an example of when the association needs to be transparent rather then leave it open to supposition.

Sounds like rubbish to me. Was the stand down for the same leg that gave way? If so there was every chance it would have broke regardless of where the lure drive thought the trial was supposed to end. Was the dog cleared for the trial by a vet?

If edlin trialed a dog that was supposed to be on stand down for injury then that's a case for the SPCA as I see it. Would be good to see some clear and honest facts about this

What sort of fool trials an injured dog in the first place?

Anything we can read or watch to learn more about this?

If you haven't written to Mike Godber directly about it what's the point of posting here? What did he say? Have you complained to Winston about the RIU? I agree with your sentiment but we're all just dogs in crates barking at passing cars by posting here. Give tv3 a ring

People don't really have those kind of balls, Aquaman

We need an absolute revolution in this sport. What about a petition of no confidence in the authorities? To Winston? If you started making a list of all the bullshit that has gone on you could write a book, without even jumping on the protection league bandwagon. We. Must. Do. Something...Sooner rather than later! Has anyone had any experience with this sort of "lobbying the government" thing?

None of them ever had the street cred on dogs in the first place. They are the obvious "anti's" in the equation. LP's on the other hand have a vested interest in keeping our sport going. If we don't do something we are going to be robbed of what we love. Is that what will happen? The hand of fate will gently reach in and turn off the lights for all of us? There's got to be something we can do. Thoughts?

Nothing will change by posting on forums. I don't have any real answers but is it worth trying to embarrass the clowns by going to the media and government independently as concerned stakeholders? It will cost an LP their ticket but that in itself will highlight what absolute fools we have driving us towards destruction. How many more second chances do we really think we'll get? Really? I'm concerned for the poor pups too. Do them a favor and retire McInereny

Appreciate you keeping the opportunities to discuss issues in our code open, CS

This industry has become so fuckin sad. How did we let it get to this?

So in fairness..how many dogs does the McKennel kill off every year? Should be public- because it effects everyone in the industry? In fact why don't we demand some transparency over this because it is the sticking point that is sure to sink the lot of us. If not public at least for LP's so we can work as a whole to get the worst on the first bus out of here.

I think I've found the problem...Don't you think there's enough dumpster fires going on at head office already though?

Did you actually email the association at any time and tell them that?

Well whether they see them or whether they choose not to see them is the question. It's useful to see who the trainers are that get a season free pass

Good luck rehoming dead young dogs. So long as the money keeps rolling in...

Has there actually been any hair folicle testing? And agree running a dog that young is just greed. One wonders how many dogs have met an early demise under these fabulous trainers