Murray Fish

more than likely! on the net!!! some will start to act like those Apes in 2001, they will start beating their chest!!!! some will get so excited they will start frothing at the mouth.. And like old Pavlov's Dog, they will start salivating!!

sigh, no wages coming in.... behavior often driven by wasting... maybe you don't realize the unbidden behind many of your raves!! I could continue, but na, I just be backing off...

Or perhaps the rules as they are not working because in the heat of the moment!!! WACK WACK WACK! Perhaps a good place to start might be to ask the question, in which countries are the rules they have actually working? best? I will share my actual opinion! so you don't have to make it up!!!! based on what various riders present and past have said! Bred and train the horse to go into the Starting Stalls. Whips to be carried for H&S. Bred and train horse to run well without the whip being needed!

sigh, fact, I DO make money, (though the last two years all via Dodger$ winning two WS) partly by having a iron discipline and avoiding listening to all the 'hype around value'. If you are talking betting on horses, then you have to have a ability to actually be betting on horses that 'run in the money'! (personally, if I was going to have Racing a area of betting, then Laying bets looks attractive) That is So much easier when the actual runners in a race decrease! The extra CHAOS that happens in all races rather Increases with every runner added to a field! I recon what also happens if you regularly bet into larger fields is that it is so easy for silly 'cognitive bias's' kicking in around 'bad luck' etc.. I 'watch' multi 1000's of races where i don't bet! For any race meeting, the first thing I look for are the races with 10 and under starters!!! Then spend some brain power looking for the form races leading into the race! But for me, the real key is how they Present on the Day, how they prelim, how they look around at the start, 95% of my bets go on then! Other than say a Melb Cup, I almost always stick to Win bets 15% take out. If I was needing to punt to make a living, then I recon the Show bet is the way to go! To me that is actually the brave bet over time. The take out rates for Q and Tri etc are vulgarly large! You are welcomed to throw money into them! Having said that all, 'each to their own'. To finish, if you ever find yourself in Dunedin with spare time, look me up! also, my days with anything to do 'racing' is steadily counting down...

I would be the opposite! I prefer to actually back winners and find that it is way easier when the fields are smaller and so-call weaker!!! best value = winning bet!

Does anyone know how racing now deals with cannabis use, it any positive reading comes via a medical prescription? would a rider or stable hand or track rider etc have to declare so use? would the test be made public?

It would be interesting to compare and contrast how Waikouaiti which used to have Jan 1st, Now Riverton on that day. Waikouaiti moved to Wingatui (was it Jan 9th?) with good fields and stakes, but didn't seem like that many on course! The old Waikouaiti is gone, a few jockeys have mentioned it was never that safe!

to the question: "re the above I am now interested in, including around the world, as well as NZ. Use among professional athletics? doe some use more, say for ones that are involved with sports that involve danger and speed? race car drivers? jockeys? motor bike riders?" Cocaine use among professional athletes, including those in high-speed and high-danger sports, is a documented issue governed by strict anti-doping rules. The clearest documented cases are in horse racing, where there is official acknowledgment of a potential problem. ### 📊 Cocaine Use in Specific Sports Here’s a summary of the information available for the sports you mentioned: | Sport Category | Key Evidence & Cases | Official Stance & Notes | | :--- | :--- | :--- | | **Horse Racing (Jockeys)** | Multiple jockeys suspended for positive tests. A disciplinary panel stated concern that **"cocaine may be endemic in racing"**. | Zero-tolerance policy. Use is considered dangerous due to the high-speed nature of the sport. | | **Motor Sports** | 1. **Historical Allegation**: A former F1 doctor once claimed cocaine use was "rife," but this was strongly denied by drivers.<br>2. **Linked Crime**: A notable 1980s racer (**Randy Lanier**) funded his career through large-scale drug trafficking. | The FIA conducts random drug tests; no F1 driver has ever tested positive for cocaine. | | **Motorcycle Riding** | A study of fatal crashes found that riders who used alcohol or drugs had **higher odds of not wearing a helmet**, indicating a link between substance use and risk-taking behavior. | Focus is on public safety and accident prevention rather than professional competition doping rules. | | **General Professional Sports** | Cases exist (e.g., in Australian Rules Football). The **World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)** prohibits it **in-competition**. | Classified as both a **stimulant (S6)** and a **Substance of Abuse**. Bans can be reduced if out-of-competition use is proven. | ### 🧪 Why is Cocaine Banned in Sports? Cocaine is banned in competition for three main reasons, even though its practical performance benefits are debated: * **Potential Performance Enhancement**: It is a stimulant that can increase alertness, energy, and confidence while reducing feelings of fatigue. * **Health Risks**: It significantly raises heart rate and blood pressure, which is especially dangerous during intense exercise and can lead to heart damage, stroke, or death. * **Spirit of Sport**: Its use violates the ethical principles of fair competition. An important distinction is between **in-competition** and **out-of-competition** use. An athlete who tests positive on a game day faces a harsher penalty (up to a 4-year ban) for potential performance enhancement. If use occurs out-of-competition and is deemed recreational, the ban can be as short as one month if the athlete completes a treatment program. ### 💡 Finding More Information While the search results provide clear evidence of use, they don't give overall prevalence statistics for these sports globally or in New Zealand. Most data comes from publicized positive tests or studies on related behaviors (like the motorcycle study). If you are interested in **specific anti-doping rules** for a particular sport or country, or want to explore **public health data on drug use and risk-taking**, I can help you search for more targeted information. Would you like me to look into either of those areas?

Cocaine use in New Zealand has seen a significant increase in recent years. While it is less common than other drugs like methamphetamine, its use is growing rapidly, particularly in certain regions and among specific demographic groups. ### 📈 Key Usage Statistics & Trends Recent wastewater testing, which measures drug residue in sewage to estimate community-wide consumption, shows a sharp upward trend. | Metric | Q3 2025 Data (Latest) | Comparative Context | | :--- | :--- | :--- | | **National Weekly Consumption** | **6.4 kg** per week | 43% above the previous year's average | | **Per Capita Use vs. Australia** | Lower than Australia | Australia's per capita consumption is over **4 times higher** | | **Long-term Increase** | Substantial growth | Consumption surged by **229%** in recent years | ### 👥 Who is Using Cocaine? The available research provides some insights into the user demographics: * **Higher Income Groups**: The 2025 New Zealand Drug Trends Survey indicates that cocaine use is **disproportionately higher among people in higher income groups**. * **Regional Concentrations**: Use is particularly high in major urban centers and specific regions. Recent data points to very high per capita use in **Queenstown**, **Auckland (Tāmaki Makaurau)**, and the **Bay of Plenty**. * **An Emerging Market**: Despite the growth, the Massey University survey notes that cocaine remains an **"emerging drug"** in New Zealand's overall drug landscape. ### ⏱️ How Often is it Used? Evidence suggests a pattern of occasional, rather than habitual, use for most people. * **Low-Frequency Use**: The frequency of cocaine use is generally **low compared to methamphetamine and cannabis**. A UN report cited by financial news also notes that wastewater analysis suggests most users in the Australia-New Zealand region consume the drug **occasionally rather than habitually**. * **Context of Growth**: The surge in total consumption measured in wastewater is linked to **increased supply and availability**, allowing more people to use it, even if infrequently. > **Important Note on Statistics**: There are conflicting figures on overall prevalence. A global ranking site claims 0.13% of New Zealand's population has a cocaine use disorder, while a UN report cited by a financial news outlet states 3% of people (aged 15-64) in Australia and New Zealand used cocaine in 2023. The latter figure is likely more reflective of any use (including occasional), while the former refers to a diagnosed disorder. ### 🌍 Context: Supply, Harm, and Support The rise in use is happening against a backdrop of increased international drug trafficking and public health efforts. * **Increased Supply**: Authorities attribute the growth in the domestic market to **increased supply from international criminal networks**. Recent major seizures, like the 4.2-tonne intercept in the Pacific in February 2026, highlight the scale of the trade targeting the region. * **Harm Reduction**: If you or someone you know is using drugs, it is important to know that **free and legal drug checking services** are available in New Zealand. These services can test the chemical content of substances to help prevent harm from adulterants. I hope this overview gives you a clearer picture of cocaine use in New Zealand. If you are interested in more detailed data about a specific region or the trends for other drugs, feel free to ask.

Does anyone know how racing now deals with cannabis use, via medical prescription? would a rider or stable hand or track rider etc have to declare so use?

na, the courts are for feed the Lawyer$! Reality 101 Law trumps policy or rules! @Chief Stipe There are two parts that jump out at me! 1, that to me is not actually that important!!!! re "small number are so incessant with their remarks.", is there Libel at play! Misogyny in play? *down the rabbit hole* Tick, tick, tick. Usually their own toxicity persons themselves and sadly often people closely associated with them.. give them rope... 2, Personally, I have way more concerns for some of the NASTY that some Jockeys have to put up with, especially some of the woman riders and media players!!!! My fb acc has multi 100's of 'Jockey Friends', some of the post they have highlighted have been way beyond criticism! Best of luck 'prosecuting' them, more often the are young and male and can often have some organic connection to racing, that adding to their Entitlement to Rave! Often that lack real insights into their ravings.... Personally, I have come across it!!!, via a person, with a connection to a Club! they got of the official photographer a photo of me and partner outside the birdcadge, turned them into HATE MEMES with NASTY Sexual shit implied!!! and posted them up!!! sigh, 10 years later I have yet to have the pleasure on meeting him in person!

yip, I'm sure it can be a challenge for many riders with social media accounts! Even more so for a Woman! Speaking to a 'aussie jockey mentor' about it, one suggest is that they have a private acc and a public and if possible the public one should have someone else reading and filtering! of course most riders are not in a position to that!

10,000% wrong road to go down... just let him keep funding his horses! sigh, he posts on a 100% Racing (FB) Group that doesn't get much pick up by the big 'algorithms', if any at all!!! He has his supporters! Let him Howl!!!

pardon!!! ps. almost feel like playing up just to see what happens!!! I'm sure I could come up with a few shit bombs!!!

punter?