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Because I like you guys and you like a punt more than enjoying the Big prize racing . here's one for you to admire. In the photo above in previous post, to the far right, is a very nice NZ trotter (formally of McGowans about a year ago in NZ in the North ) that Keayang Zahara was flat out to get past here in the Group 1 Great Square trot in December. SUNSET HILL has had that close 2nd to 'Zahara' (by 2 metres in that photo above) and has Three Wins in Australia from his other 3 starts. winning each one by 4 lengths or more each time and twice in 1.55 MR. tiz a very good trotter. I think SUNSET HILL well worth a ticket or 2 in the Interdominion . and is currently 50-1 in the early markets, and is being kept in cottonwool ready to spring a surprise . ( For the place punter Brodster is 14-1 for the place) . just beautiful to throw in a multi here and there. e.g a Leap To Fame - Sunset Hill Interdominion double is 150-1 . Thank me later when we're all rich and collecting 😆😂💰👍

yes , I guess NZ's best 2 trotters in Oscar B and Muscle Mountain had their Butts kicked in both the TAB trots to date , so if Marky and the Hope team can't beat the Aussies no-one can . Those 2 you mentioned weren't even part of the Aussie Trifecta's run in the Slot trot so far either. But should be this year (along with Gus) NZ trotters have really fallen away badly recent times. Ran a gallant 2nd and 3rd in the rich Interdominion last Winter in Brisbane with Bet N Win 2nd and Oscar B 3rd, so there's always some hope if they come over. But Keayang Zahara will be here too in July for the Interdominion , so just might frighten you guys off again . She is certainly the Real Deal , and one of the most Pure trotters ever seen since Maori's Idol (the best ever) here's a photo to enjoy of the great mare winning at Albion Park late last year. Just a magnificent trotting machine.

What do you do when you're in deep shite mate ? A/ you dig yourself out. A company worth over $3,000,000,000 has bailed out NZ harness nicely. Many owners and trainers still enjoying themselves. they Won't disappear at 2 years Brodster. Stop shitting yourself about it. ATC are trying to sell assets to help with their debt. IMO selling off Training facilities of 20 trainers and 200 horses is a MAJOR mistake, and I keep praying it doesn't happen. It will only speed up the demise , like selling the Takanini training track of the thoroughbred Trainers that time by the Auckland Racing Club. just ruins it. IS Not HRNZ job to treat the public . They provide racing for the participants . and Rules for the hands on Participants too. I could go in to more detail , but you hate them already. Your fellow kiwi's putting on a sport. HRNZ are doing an amazing job of it. So much so the Aussies are back in force to capitalize on this amazing good fortune for them . The clubs put on the facility for the public . As Cambridge do each year annually for 1000's of your NZ People (public to enjoy ) along with music and that . bloody legends doing that. where's the contempt you talk about? that's just BS Brodie in your head. Did I give you THE JANITOR tip mate ?? 😉 watch out for stablemate GUS too. in the TAB Slot trot. Might as well make Cambridge Part of the Queensland racing circuit ? the way Leap To Fame kicked in last year.

I doubt I have it wrong as you say , the cost of anything these days is a strain on organisations of all types. That many pony clubs folded around here it made me near cry. Insurance is a huge cost these days for Sporting groups and social clubs of all kinds. Trotting clubs really feel it too , as have large premises. There's a lot of detail in running a club. for any sport. The Australian Turf Club Sydney went bust , even with running expensive thoroughbreds racing . Racing usually does much better than harness , as is 10 times more popular. I thought people on forums are/were supposed to be Harness racing fans ?, but offer No support to the sport . On this site anyway. Thankfully ENTAIN did for NZ and QLD harness racing, BUT you all get stuck in to them as a bad business decision ???? . hahahaha that's so ironic it's funny. And then the way the HRNZ have supported All the clubs is tremendous with the Entain funding. you blokes ONLY want to support some of the clubs. (and hardly any of the New races and concepts put in place the last 3 years.) Fancy thinking you all have the right to Allocate the funding as You see fit when it's been the job of HRNZ for over hundred years? . They know what they're doing. But keep picking on em' . The racing is better than ever. We even had driver Slot races at Albion last weekend . twas brilliant stuff innovations for plenty of people to enjoy something different. Brodie and Galah would pick it to pieces though as someone had to put up some money for a slot lol 🤣 Thankfully in OZ people make moves to keep the harness racing going, (Seymour sponsors SA trotting to keep them going for example) (Vic State Government bought land of HRV to prop them up from a $66,000,000 debt.) Entain have done the same in NZ but this forum site doesn't appreciate a company worth over 3 billion dollars helping.😂🤣 bite the God's hand that helps them lol. Using punting dollars they made too. so what goes round comes round. . Of course we want the rich Participants to do ok as in getting winners. BECAUSE They pour in the Most money to breeding and yearling sales. Seymour and Mick BOOTs with 300 horses plus each doing a tremendous job (Like Stonewall there I guess as the equal of that effort) so plenty of staff , breeders and trotting clubs benefit. Excellent stuff and never been at this Racing level before . Too high up for you blokes . probably why all the angst. Harness Racing is obviously running very light on the punting dollar everywhere. Not just because it's a very poor betting sport (things galloping out the back taking peoples money with them for example) , but Pokies reign supreme for the average gambler and returns are instant. also animal welfare is a 'thing' these days. My very own 2 children wouldn't support horse racing even though I love it. there's also the 'State of the nation's economy' for people too. There's simply better things to spend on , like your bills, rent or mortgage lol 😋 . people love all the cruises and things like that these days for recreational dollar spending. They're smart and will take a holiday rather than waste hundreds on silly horses . that may or may not be even trying lol 😅

All sorts of Sporting clubs run in debt Brodie . But they don't just give up like you do . Things are expensive to run these days. Barcelona and Real Madrid and Manchester United FC's , The BIGGEST Football clubs in the world that are hugely popular and followed by millions around the planet. and all 3 have debts over a Billion dollars. Close em' down you reckon ? would be the Brodie way lol. and just support grass roots football clubs for mugs ? the world doesn't work like that mate. The AFL clubs are hugely popular here but the only reason they stay afloat and are not in debt as well, is the Pokies at their club Social rooms that generate enough for them to pay the staff and participants of their clubs/sports It's hard to make money as a sports club Brodie. ENTAIN make money from betting around the world and prop up what ever sports they see fit. They helped NZ harness , and will probably continue to do so . the amount it costs them is very small . Ladbrokes helps run races in Queensland . Now we can run the Interdominion for 3 years. excellent ! and all the hacks can race weekly too. You say silly slot races at Cambridge. 🙄 One of the very best things to happen for the sport in recent years, and yet you are Sure to shoot it down as usual . the Club or HRNZ has to put in 150 to 200k to run it ? to have the Best horses in the Southern Hemisphere attend ? . a measley small amount like that? to have that major event . What Brilliance programming to promote the sport and have people (with money ) diving around searching for the next winner of it . and syndicate people too. Enormous progress for the Industry. South Islanders aren't Dumb. well most aren't anyway . as They saw how Good this is at Cambridge, and Copied for NZ Cup week to have the 'Velocity' and the 'Ascent' to support the young 3 year old Pacers and trotters as well in Fabulous slot races . Kiwi Ingenuity Mate !!! well done HRNZ . supreme racing with Supreme horses attending in 2 places now. Brodie can keep crying about the 200k they had to spend to achieve this awesome feat . Which is the Bargain of the Century and you can't even see it lol 🤣. But most will be saying How Good is Our Sport with these horses assembling. Don't forget my tip for ya too. THE JANITOR is coming to Cambridge . Buy a ticket and go and see him mate . You might get a quid lol and enjoy yourself for a change . if you open your curtains from being in the dark all the time 😂💰

Plenty of excitement still for the grass roots participants. As far as I can see , NZ is still running meetings every Sunday , and the Manawatu Club are still racing , Southland seem to have plenty of meetings.?? Is hard to follow them all with there being so many. Indeed The Galah commented on the extra money that was put in to Southland last season , and Mikey thinks there is too many meetings already midweek (at Waikato and places lie that) . so how is that HRNZ Not looking after the grass roots pressure you strive for ? overdoing it according to these blokes ? In fact your Metro Friday clubs run MAIDEN races at most meetings ? never did that much in the past . But it does give, your so-called 'poor trainers' that train bugger All winners can have a go in the city at that even if they want too. Won't get anything against Telfers, Purdons , Green, Kentuckiana and that though. so better to stay in own class. So I say it's better to have REGULAR (52 weeks a year) midweek meet at Cambridge (and/or Southland) that would Encourage the small players (with a smaller team of horses) to make a living , and regularly participate. Just like Queensland and Victoria and NSW do quite successfully. there's a race for every horse , every week available. that's Important HRNZ are getting close to achieving it as well. so are doing the best they can with the amount of participants left running. Good Luck to em ' 🏆 YES = racing horse numbers have dropped everywhere. Because the Costs are very high to run a horse these days , so if you're NOT making a living out of it , and it was just a hobby, might as well do something else these days . like me and Brodie and Galah and Chief . Go and play golf or something 😁 . or get a small Te Akau share in a horse lol . they are still popular 😂😂

Absolutely Brodster. You are on the money having respect for Entain for a change. And yes Changes happen , and the function changes bit by bit as improvements made all the time. HRNZ and harness racing participants can rejoice that Entain stepped in (when they didn't have to as is a poor betting product ) but wanted to help out . As their Subsidary LADBROKES has in queesland saving the day for us too . and allowing us to produce great horses like Leap To Fame and GUS that have been crushing it in NZ lately. As The Galah has told you ENTAIN/Ladbrokes make their most money from SPORTS Betting. and a bit on thoroughbreds , esp places like the crazy rich Asians on the Hong Kong races and things like that. Chief has told you how many Billions ENTAIN have. they even have 100,000,000 set aside Chief has told me, to Pay their Money laundering fine if it comes to that out of the courts. Water off a ducks back. Their Contributuion is being lapped up by the NZ harness racing world (and QLD too via Ladbrokes) to have some of the best racing ever seen , by some of the fastest horses ever to wear a bridle, by the BEST Trainers on the Planet. North Island NOT STUFFED yet old sport. hang tuff mate. Barry still winning races after all these decades and been one of the best in the world , along with brother Mark and brother-in -law Tony. Clearly the best around lol 👍🏆😉 Rejoice and be grateful we can still see the marvelous horsemen go round , and try and match the Aussies . How good is NZ harness going? Fabulous . Cambridge on soon .. TAB trot and The race by BETCHA . how good ?? wait to you see the next Queenslander Brodster. Named THE JANITOR. he is gunna Blow your socks off old boy. 💪💰🏆😁 NZ harness never been better. The last 2 Cup weeks have been staggeringly good at Addington . with the Velocity and The Ascent. You got to see Leap To Fame and Keayang Zahara. 2 of the best ever. How Privaliged are we lately ?? just amazing what HRNZ are doing . What amazing people to put this entertainment on.

that is pretty good form then. the trotters are always a wonderful sight in their natural gait. Queensland only recently getting them going nicely. Not As Promised winning last Saturday night in 1.55 MR . this is too quick for old kiwi's coming across nowadays. MASTERLY , who exactly one year ago was winning at Addington twice in February in 2.00 MR's , for drivers Tomlinson and Harrison looked quite good there , but trotting in QLD has 1 win from 16 starts since last May , and was a poor last on Saturday behind 'Not As Promised'. we're getting quite good here with Trotters which is very exciting for the locals. The Cup week at Chch double Group 1 winner GUS resumed recently, in a marathon at Albion and won by lengths, after starting off 40m North Islander TAYLAD TO USE ,you might not remember as was running 4ths and 5ths in Auckland for years, but was leased to some QLD owners and won our Queensland trotting championship group 2 in November, so got $30,000 for that for the leading Dixon stable . but since then 12 weeks ago in 8 starts Taylad To Use has been unplaced in 8 starts. Can't work out what's gone wrong with him for the moment. needs a spell I think. Another North Islander SOUTHERN DIAMOND from Purdons had good NZ form but only running about 4th all the time here, and I was very disappointed he didn't win last time in the Jim McNeil memorial. Jim being the wonderful man who imported 20 trotters from NZ in the 90's to get trotting races starting in Queensland. a fantastic achievement. maybe 'Southern Diamond' can win today in race 10 in the drivers Challenge races tonight ??? Zachary Butcher has drawn him and won on him in NZ and was 5th in the Sires stakes Final. Zachary the only driver on a familiar horse so should near win it ? seems a good chance at 5-1 🤔

Yes , I think mostly they don't penalise with a vets certificate. Vet only has to put in one or 2 words for a trainer as to why an Accepted runner has scratched. Vets a pretty loyal to their customers. Sometimes a trial needs to be run by said horse if stewards order it, but we have plenty of trials they run like workouts between our races Tuesdays and Thursdays. A shame for the Handicapper trying to put on 2 year old races for you. They need to start now as is near the end of summer. I said to Brodie about the 8 2 year olds that lined up at Pukekohe in 2 heats last Tuesday trials. so hopefully a race or can put on for them March sometime. Our Albion 2 year-olds normally go a few weeks at the Tuesday day meetings, where no one is betting much at all, and they (the 2 year olds) can scramble around and learn their craft. I see one of these is on Next Tuesday Race 1 Albion for $9000 . a nice 7 horse field of first starters, which is just right to avoid any tight racing on them. so less likely to make errors.

I love the drivers better than the horses sometimes . ( and especially for punting lol 😁) Today and tomorrow night Brodster ALL the 10 races of 10 horses at both meetings at Albion, have new drivers . I love this sort of shit , and to see the best going around competing is dreamy stuff . thank you to Entain /Ladbrokes for putting on yet another wonderful incentive . 👍🏆 Zachary Butcher is the Great NZ rep and will give a bold sight i'm sure. Alas , The horses racing today are mostly worse than Tu Tangata , so will be struggling a long way from home lol 🤣 mostly Redcliffe Class country slow horses today . Zachary will be winning Race 9 though on the ONLY real decent horse racing today in race 9. A Lovely NZ horse who won her maiden here in 1.53 earlier in month. A certainty today. (They All have some much better horses to drive tomorrow night thankfully.) Anyway GOOD LUCK to Zachary 🇳🇿 to go close to being the Ladbrokes ULTIMATE DRIVER of the world. (Pete, Angus and Trista for Queensland likely to get Whalloped by amazing drivers Cam , Herbie, LukeM and GazHall the likely winner, this time round)

Well it's just Not that good a horse either. Only one win , with 4 x 2nd placings in the whole of last year/season . 34 starts. A pretty average return Essentially you are correct Brodster and I always think the driver has the huge hand in deciding if a horse wins or not. Paul is a bit like Chris Alford, Morrie Mac , Ricky May and others (yes even Mark Purdon showing signs of wear and tear (so he used a catch driver last year here at Brisbane Who won the Derby for him too with Rubira ) that age has wearied them . whether they like it or not. Age wearies all of us and your reflex's and agility are not going to be the same as the amazing Cam Hart , Carter, Herbertson and others from the exciting younger generation. BUT , Tu Tangata FINALLY got a win last night trotting home in a bold 61.5 . ( small sarcasm sorry about that) so Happy day ! 🙂 and well done Paul and 'Tui' the flying wonder trotter. (No wonder not many bet NZ trots much these days lol 😋 )

you gentlemen don't realize the costs involved in maintaining a racing industry these days . The ATC has done well to keep trading while in debt with the failure to raise capital from the disastrous Apartments project that failed due to the building company declaring Bankrupcy. Instead of feeling compassion for your 'fellow' Harness racing supporters that make up the ATC , it's sink the boot in and scoff at their predicament all the time. Victoria (HRV) managed to bail out of their losses for the moment. The Australian Turf Club , in the much more popular Thoroughbred industry has debts of $145,000,000 and are unable to pay back the bank loan of $30 mill due this year. They even tried to sell Rosehill Gardens track for $5 Billion to the state Government, to support themselves well into the future . Members voted against the sale in the end. I think an administrator is going to be appointed In a nut-shell , you can see that running a racing/harness club is Not a Prosperous Enterprise these days. Why pick on someone and people TRYING TO KEEP Your sport going in Difficult times ?? Jump in and help with some ideas. Brodie says get young people involved, Galah says create a training/racing establishment with barns and stables and training facilities to lease to the young trainers who don't Have property of their own. 2 top ideas that can be expanded on and implemented . and probably will be in the future too as no choice really , Example = like what Menangle did 2010 (shifting out of Harold Park in the city and funding themselves and setting up well) ATC may have to do this too?. ( *and help the young participants simultaneously with training facility)

wow Brodster . those horses are just amazing. I'm just watching some great athletes at the Olympics at the moment but looking at these yearlings today is just sensational. The full brother to new superstar Captain's Mistress ( and half brother to Merlin ) a bargain at $180,000 to Peter Lagan Standardbreds Canterbury. Who are they with as Trainer ? Waikato 's legend Mark Purdon bought the 3 Lots that I liked . He'll WIN with all 3 of these. 1/ A Bettor's Delight out of John Greens champion mare The Orange Agent for just $70,000 2/ Captain Treacherous -Dream On Me Colt for $50,000 3/ Captain Treacherous - Millwood Maizey Colt for $82,500 watch for Mark winning trifecta's with those 3 next year Brodster !! 👍💰🏆💪 Kennards paid huge money for a few lots , as you would expect. trying to look for their next Lazarus. dreaming on.

Violence ? elbowing ? Crimes committed ? Battering rams ? just another day at the races lol. Thomass needs to follow a more 'Gentle' sport . for his own sanity. She's a rough and Tumble game. As Murray has said here , you need an ambulance in attendance before anyone can go to work. Pushing out in races has happened ( for centuriee nearly) Is part of what most would expect in a race ? . I've had wheels and legs jammed under my horse that many times from inside runners that it's like rush hour on the Auckland M1,( but with less stack up's) because the fearless combatants can take a bit of 'Battering rams' and go with the flow. Alas in this case Win Pinn decided to lean back in and not go with the flow at al , causing the incident . a few elbows out for balance and that , but Violence ?? No way. just riders trying to get to the post in best possible position . The young lady possibly coming out a bit too hard, but like Chief says it's a pretty heavy animal at 500kg , and sometimes they react sharply , and are indeed great battering Rams ! they love it too. 😎🏇👍 So the Stipes dished out the penalties as they see fit . Racing incident with errors made in the heat of battle. No Need to get the Police involved 😂

Sometimes you have to have faith. That officials at ANY Sport can make decisions based on what they see. I like a lot of your ideas , but you are a fraction to pedantic. (Nothing wrong with being Pedantic as you get more results in your favour that way , whatever you might be tackling , like Fishing for example lol 😆🤣) Horses and drivers do funny things in races. Stewards have to make sense of it , BUT They CANNOT tell you how to drive your horse. Drivers still make split second decisions , horses make bad errors , and vice versa ) things happen. Case 1/ I argued the driverless horse case at Hawera with you , over which we had differing views. The stewards probably even had a view different to BOTH of us . It's just the way it is . You wanted drivers suspended in that particular case. I didn't , as they were juniors and a driverless horse does Weird and wonderful things. Leeway is needed . and the race should of been called off to like a subscriber here pointed out . NoworNever I think it was. CASE 2/ Not of interest to anyone except you Mr Galah , as you would remember this handy NZ horse named HOT and TREACHEROUS. he raced last Saturday night Albion at Long odds, against the FFA top class horses. And the driver went a bit 'Ballistic ' and tried to leave the hot favourite SPEAK THE TRUTH out 3 wide , and then tried to cross the leader not long after. A terrible effort as no way would that horse be giving him the lead. Anyway , The Classy 'Speak The Truth' ( a miracle Mile placegetter and started in the Slot races at Cambridge once he's that good) powered to an easy Victory . The Mug driver of Hot and Treacherous was quizzed as to his driving tactics by stewards. I thought his drive was quite ordinary at the time . Livingstone doesn't drive much at all though. and he was having a Go. to Win the race. And what could stipes do ?? suspend him for having a go ?? He tried to beat them , what you're spose to do . Didn't go about it as you might like as was shown to be futile against quality opponents. Anyway they didn't suspend him , and I can only imagine when quizzed he just said I was trying to lead and win . About 1 hour ago at our Tuesday Albion meet , we now run FFA stands for the old boys who can't keep up Saturday nights. to give them a race they can still win. Old TURN IT UP won one of these last month bless him. what a trooper he is. today, HOT and Treacherous in the stand FFA off 30m handicap ran a great 2nd , and paid $6 the place (starting 30-1) and Livingstone drove him beautifully and all but beat the hot favourite that he did head off for a few strides. well done to them. Each race is different , and looked at differently. Is quite funny for getting quizzed for having a go. Or not having a Go . But in the end the Stipes Can't tell them how to drive........ and the public has to accept that too. Case 3/ Lack of vigour things just happen in your Big silly fields in NZ . If you're last at the 1/4 in those Big 14 horse fields , why be vigorous ? you're NO HOPE of getting any of the money. might as well wait till next time and still have a horse lol... thankfully in Oz the 6-10 horse fields mean everyone can have a Go Everytime and lack of vigour not an issue at all.