Gammalite

think you're right Brodster. But they will scratch horses 'If denied a Fair start' by being struck by the Barrier strand in any manner. This does happen very rarely , and the stewards rightly can scratch a runner that suffers that interference. so will be in the Steward report if that is the case. I notice the trotters can stand very very wide on the track these days? some even face the outside rail at times as the start is initiated . we never used to do that as was always a risk of the tape tangling your horse if up too close.

some great Grand Circuit Champion Winners from NZ. Horse after horse doing NZ proud. The Champions of the Sport. don't forget em' boys. Maybe Republican Party can take down the Aussies in 2026 ?. best of luck to him to push em' hard. here's the quiz answers in some great action photo's !! 👍🏆. Remembering the Champs for Christmas. There you go Seven Amazing NZ bred horses in a row , being the Grand Circuit Champions. Such amazing Gait and Action . no wonder they were All the Best in World during their years. n.b the Tasmanian was the double NZ Cup winner Flashing Red. the 2 Queensland Champs were Blacks A Fake ( 2 time Grand circuit Champion for Natalie Rasmussen ) and Be Good Johnny for John McCarthy . the McCarthy family being based in Queensland for many years where the champion drivers Luke and Todd (john's Son's) learned the craft to now be the Best on the Planet . (along with the Dunn and Purdon families) 👍 we are blessed to see such quality in our lifetimes. these horses and Horsemen that trained and drove them are the truly' 'Elite of the Sport' . congrats to good bloke Grant Dixon , joining them as a QLD Grand Circuit champion with LEAP TO FAME past 3 years.

When KIWI won the Cup 🏆 . great nostalgic moment 😎 was a bit bigger for NZ than the Nzb kiwi race lol. This bloke in video is a great bit of Nostalgia as well . getting an MBE and all for services/accomplishments to NZ racing . A star of the show. and prepare tough horses to boot. Bred them , worked them, did the lot.

the very first POST on this thread back 4 pages explains it well Newmarket. the first few sentences. The Galah gave a good description right there and then what is going on tomorrow..

One horse race Hesi mate in the Cup today . The omen bets always come in . even though you were sniping the mighty Baggie Greens , and old mate Smithy, who has to sit the 3rd Ashes test out with Vertigo now , after reading your comments lol 😉😅 made him a bit dizzy lol. With TRAVball in action yet again yesterday, and Trav head still at the crease too at this moment in time , and blasting the Barmy cricket pretenders out of the country, there can only be ONE WINNER. sorry, well 2 winners should be coming in > TRAV in the Manawatu Cup and the Baggie Greens in the Ashes. (NZ black caps going good at Mt Maunganui too , so look out for the likely treble) 👍😎😁

It's that time of year and Chief Stipe has had his annual Christmas party . A good time was had by All. Chief even decided to have some fun with the trotting Lads and put up $10,000 stake for a fun contest for the trotting Lads , saying they just had to hitch up a horse , race over the hill and come back with 100 of one type of Fruit. The four competitive trotting Lads Immeadiately explode into action. The Galah , Ranga and Gamma have harnessed up some quick ones and are over the hill in record time. The Brodster is a bit slower away but Chief helps him get the bridle on and off Brodie goes too, up and over the hill and in search of some fruit. Less than half hour and the boys have thundered back over the hill driving hard, and Gamma is back with 100 apples, The Galah zoomed in with 100 Grapefruit and Ranga is back with 100 juicy peaches. Chief then decides he'll sort this lot out by introducing his late 'Self Amusement Clause' of , "I forgot to mention , you had to EAT all the fruit in an hour to be the Winner" . oh dear , that's a bit of a tough one for the lads. but The Galah , Ranga and Gamma start munching away as fast as possible . Chief chuckles mercilessly and enjoys watching the struggle ,. Chief ducks off to get another beer , and when he returns Galah Gamma and Ranga are laughing joyfully , and have poured a beer for themselves, and have given up the EATing challenge after only getting through about half the fruit. Chief says "WTF, don't you want to win the 10 Grand ?" "Nah Chief "is the reply . "We've just seen the Brodster, and we want to see how he gets on. He's just coming down the hill now with a trailer on with 100 Watermelons " 🤣

com'on Brodster. Get with the program as TaBman would of said. The last 4 races coming up are at around mile and a half . that's far enough for these horses. Was thinking the Brodster on the money today and just BACK your Boy Carter Dalgety today . Drove the double races 3 and 4 on Polly Grey and that plunge horse winner from Addington in DOVER TERRACE. looked a certainty with the best driver in NZ on it ? only got 13-1 for the double on Sportsbet but beggars can't be choosers . You tipped him as a man to follow and are 100% on the money old mate.👍💰 just gave some back on Suspicious Captain in the 8th just now , but it went ok. was only 3rd best horse as first 2 horses went well clear. Should we get on ANYTIME AT ALL in the last race Methven today ? seems a Huge chance with Carter onboard Brodster. ? should we put a Redback on it ? what's your tip ?

harness racing clubs aren't generating much revenue profit. It's a fading sport. as in less participants and less betting as you guys have All accurately noted here at BOAY quite often. yes I know Methven does well and returns a profit and has saved funds. excellent for them. I'm staggered the Australian turf Club went into administration as Sydney Racing is still hugely Popular . Betting is big but the betting agencies and the government get that money. the overheads are Huge. track maintenance , security staff , etc. it's a financial nightmare. Some good news is HRV who were $66 million in debt have been backed out by a sale of land. Harness Victoria obviously allocating the funds much more Poorly than HRNZ ever did , had dug a big hole so have sold off a large parcel of land for $100,000,000 to the state government. the additional $44,000,000 will 'Prop up ' there Solvency issues until about the end of 2027. So it's not unlike NZ in a lot of regards. Trying to keep a sport going that has Very low Revenue , compared to the overheads needed to operate it. (Seymour is currently bailing out South Australia himself) and already bailed out Queensland in the past. Revenue is POOR , as you guys often points out. Because it's a POOR betting sport. there's no doubt that even galloping punters are not very keen on it. I went to ALBION Park 2 weeks ago to congratulate some of the guys on their recent NZ exploits and had a bet on a mates horse that was racing on the day as well . It showed on screen there was $500 in the pool when they went out on the track 10 minutes to go 😅🤣 The horse was showing $8 and $3 . so I put $10 ew at the one betting window On-course that was open lol . It Immeadiately dropped to $5 and $2.30 place. ran 3rd. I just laughed how little anyone bets on them, for small bets to drop the divvie' like that . think the trifecta pools are always a little better . Brodster would be hopeless with his place bets lol ? NZ will wind up just like this too. small pools. It's inevitable in a twilight sport sorry to say old chap . and poor numbers participating now. blame HRNZ all you like. They still trying to put races on for All so I admire that effort. even attracted Australian interest the past 3 years now as do a BETTER Job than what we can in Aus. (good effort by some Brissy bloke to re-vitalise the Interdominion for 3 years though bless him 😉😎 )

yes ,I'm just used to the 'normal ' horses running around for $6000. just seems normal to be the case for the hobby trainers. NZ giving the smaller bloke a go seems so magical ? like this Sunday coming? so few chances for the hard workers to get some of the rewards like the Golden Gait initiative at Auckland . how good was that ? . can't see a thing wrong with it myself. Australian STates just have 'Sires Stakes' racing for horses bred in that state (just as NZ does well as each year too), but the BIG stables still MUG the smaller ones 90% of the time in those races. in the 2 , 3 and 4 year old divisions. Is just the way it is . breeders and yearling buyers target those races. Allstars won the 3 year old NZ one 10 years running. (NZ Introducing the Betcha Pace, TAB trot for open class, and Velocity and Ascent Slot races for 3 yearolds for the very best around. was also excellent . you've had about 12 of those events so far and they are 12 of the best races ever run in NZ, so is good for the BIG guy to get a go too. they support the industry and Mugs can buy a slot too , and enjoy a big win for the day. example = A team of South Australian people Won the $2,000,000 Eureka Slot (the richest Australia race) with their horse defeating Leap To Fame into 2nd place. Dreams can happen with great initiatives Mr Galah 🏆. no good just dabbling on the grass all the time. lol 😉 I hope the Ashburton meeting is successful Sunday for all you guys and HRNZ too. The owners who are going are sure to have a great day . don't worry about the betting. exactly right. they fund all the races from the annual allotment . whatever the Betting. so well done Entain and Ladbrokes too that have chipped in to help keep them high in New Zealand. Meanwhile , What do you think of this below ? Quite amazing such a big organisation worth millions could trade bust? this is the one you blokes should complain about . instead of hammering the brilliant HRNZ full of kiwi blokes Trying to keep your dying sport afloat ?? HRNZ aren't trading poorly like this mob of ATC , that obviously PAID OUT FAR too much in Prizemoney trying to compete with Victorian Racing . This is where Brodster could direct his Financial Failure's accusations , as seems this mob have done TERRIBLY , in an industry that wasn't dying. (Aus thoroughbreds) but some greedy Buggers have done something bad it seems. (taken or spent all the cash ? lol 🤣) The Australian Turf Club (ATC) has been placed into the hands of an administrator following an announcement by the sport's regulator on Monday. Racing NSW (RNSW) said the industry's principal race club – which manages racing at Randwick, Rosehill, Warwick Farm and Canterbury – would enter an administration period to "provide an opportunity for the ATC to improve its financial performance and address serious financial issues". The move follows Racing NSW issuing the ATC with a "show cause" notice back in September due to growing concerns about the club's ongoing solvency and corporate governance, following the shock resignation of board members Ban Bayot and Natalie Hewson in September.

Looks an amazing concept. Can'tbelieve that NZ has got such great people running the show , they came up with this idea to give the Grass Roots players a go at some Big cash? this is great how it's panned out. The Very people (grass roots) You and Brodie Call for all the time for the HRNZ to support instead of the Rich and famous at Auckland.? and yet you say it's a fail like every thing else? . Well the Owners and Trainers racing on the day Won't agree with you either . Barely a Allstars, Cullen, Kentuckiana, TELFER , Dunn, Jones or Todd runner in sight. All your Grass Roots trainers Getting a BIG Go at Great money instead. Fantistico old mate. Best of luck to Nigel with his Dunn runner though, and the many people Having a go at some $60,000 stakes. a very deserving man with his efforts for NZ harness racing. Well done Ashburton !! and well done HRNZ once again . for looking after Grass roots. ( the big guys all got to play Cup week and did well against the Aussies) p.s Don't worry about the 4 horse field R1 so much . It's only One race cobber. You'll survive .😅 just congratulate the opportunity that Hanna, Negus, Twidle or Gameson on have to get a listed 3 yearold filly winner for themselves !! and their owners 🏆 this is just amazing 👍 and what you guys wanted not not long ago ?. Changed your mind it seems . Oh well. will be merry Christmas to those Ashburton anyway. BOAY will just have to 'weep' as usual 🤣

No one is onto the Grand Circuit Champions of our sport yet. Bit of a shame as they are very impressive and shows just how the interest in the great sport has faded to just a personal level in NZ. (therefore dropping off a cliff) . Horse 1 / Leap to Fame , won the Christmas Cup over the weekend . was Win No.60 , (and has 12 x 2nds) from 77 lifetime starts. and now passes an incredible $6,000,000 earned. The Three previous Grand Circuit Champions are New-Zealnd bred beauties. All stallions at Stud now . Here is Horse 2 answer below. clue for Horse 3 and 4 from the opening to this thread, they were both Open Class trained horses in NZ? and both by Bettors Delight ?, like Leap To Fame is as well. Quiz answer to Horse 2 / is KING OF SWING . raced with North Island trainer Ray Green early in career , went on to be Grand Circuit Champion on 3 occasions from 2020-2022 , winning 3 Miracle Miles along the way for Luke McCarthy when he was sold across the Tasman. His first Crop of 2 year-olds will be racing 2026 🏆. will be great to see how they go !!. fingers crossed for some good un's. here is the great horse in winning action . finished his career at 44 wins from 82 starts and $3.3 mill.

yes it is. $1,000 is a big bet. always has been. I came to Australia from NZ in the 80's and the limits were about $1,000 then is all the bookies would take on one bet. you had to take a second bet (at probably lower odds ) if you wanted to put more on. they are SPECIAL KNOWN Punters Brodster. Of course they can get SPECIAL treatment for Biggish bets. Just like Boys get Paid. common sense. Casino's for example have 'High Rollers' that they let on for thousands on some of the games. MUGS like you and the general public only let on at what the usual table limits are . $500 or whatever it is per bet. It's all quite Normal mate. you live under a rock and can't work it out ?? it's not that hard . Special People/clients/pundits always get PREFERENTIAL Treatment . In all walks of life. not just betting. It's pretty normal . Has happened since time again. 👍

no mate. these are BIG prize races . they have to throw the sink at them if they want to Win. Craig Williams , near the best AUS jock was giving old 'Private Eye' an absolute flogging up the straight in a Million dollar race they just ran at Pakenham. The winner WARNIE came zooming home to take the $450,000 by a half head from Williams as it panned though. Bit by jezus Craig tried super hard to win it. 2nd prize was $110,000 .A big difference? . you ain't gunna sit there like a sack of spuds if you want to win these races. At the BIG NZ trots , the NZ Cup was run and won at Addington . KINGMAN doing the unthinkable and coming around Leap To Fame late on ,(who is one of the best horses ever raced) . and Won !! a stunning achievement the NZ stewards promptly give the driver (Luke McCarthy) the greatest horseman in Australia a Week suspension and a $3,300 fine. so instead of a handshake and congratulations for Winning the BIggest race going . It's cop that ya mug. 🤣 NZ wokeness now reaching Cup level ? 😉 and amazing achievements tarnished a tickle. as per Rooke today in your Waikato Cup as well ? . Great horses efforts tarnished by over officialdom. It's like they don't want the jockeys to try hard ? (which would cause MUCH more Contraversy than anything happening now) some can't see it that way , but believe me if those jocks and drivers stopped trying hard, it would be Super BAD for racing.

Fair enough. I would still contest the 'Laws of Probability' in mathematics and even calculating for an event to occur, are slightly different to the PREDICTION and OPINION of an outcome. but they do all inter-twine I guess. Gammalite didn't win at Addington in 5 attempts as the Brodster had the Canterbury locals 'fired up' far too much 😎 so the 'Prediction' of a NZ Cup win (or any Addington Win didn't happen , and the 'Opinion' of that is well > "That Sucks'. 🤣 but the 'Laws of Probability' of winning the NZ Cup off the Handicap (on 2 occasions) given to him suggested he would Not win the race anyway.

Always associated it with Whinging Poms. Do they say that in NZ? Is very very common in OZ. especially now at cricket Ashes time. The funny thing is this year for a major change, instead of whinging about the Aussies , weather, and Baggie greens non-stop. They've turned on their 'own' with great volatility 😁 . And a 'Whinging' Non stop about their own Cricket team in the media . ( who are performing poorly so far ) i'm almost hoping they win at Adelaide next week to cheer them up a bit lol. (and keep the series alive for Boxing day)