curious

https://loveracing.nz/News/30200/BernardsBriefing-24April.aspx

I'm sure he consulted with them but how many are left?

Nope. McKenzie says in his interview with Aidan that costs have exceeded revenue the last 6 or 7 weeks. That's presumably after the wage subsidy and a turnover of around $27m a week. Not quite sure how the geniuses have done that?

So, the circulated protocols are not final and their is no go ahead to resume anything yet.

Anyway, we shouldn't get too excited about the protocols yet. This from Bernard late yesterday. They may have jumped the gun: This afternoon we were advised by WorkSafe that the guidance we have shared with the industry today may still require further updates as a result of their continuing to work through their endorsement process.

70% alcohol.

Just a word of caution before you rush off ordering these products. You may want to check with your vet or other medical professional about the two recommended disinfectants here. Bio-Kleen is advertised as antibacterial but not viricidal and Germshield is NH4Cl based and seems unlikely to be very effective on corona virus. I've checked with a vet who concurs but I'm not a vet or medical professional. I'd say that Virkon, widely available from most farm stores may be a better bet (or maybe meths).

Maybe after the bubbly break while they are feeling a little jolly they could consider releasing the half-year report?

I think I'm one of the 3 questions.

It is? I thought that about summed it up and it's shrinking now isn't it from that?

Pike ramps up action by trainers and gets invitation to Wednesday conference call By Barry Lichter • 24 April 2020 New Zealand Trainers’ Association president Tony Pike has tightened the screws on the Racing Industry Transition Agency by recommending today that trainers delay bringing horses back into work until it gets answers to key questions on the sustainability of the industry. Pike said he had gained huge support from trainers, owners and breeders since revealing yesterday RITA had shrugged off his attempts to discover, among other things, whether there would be enough stake money to justify owners racing their horses after lockdown ends on Monday. The pressure of possible action by trainers has subsequently led to Pike receiving an invitation from RITA to join a conference call with the code CEOs on Wednesday after its board meeting. Pike says he has been given no undertaking that RITA will divulge what prize money distributions will be made for the remaining two months of the season and the start of the new season. “But hopefully we’ll find out a lot more about the position we are in and what they can do to fix a broken business.” Pike said since he sent out his initial newsletter he had received the backing of countless trainers, the NZ Thoroughbred Breeders’ Association and the NZ Racehorse Owners’ Federation, who were also requesting information from RITA. “RITA have made it clear there will not be answers to the questions raised in our letter until after their board meeting next Wednesday. We wanted answers by midday on Monday and when they said this was not possible they were made aware of our dissatisfaction.’’ In a second letter to trainers this afternoon Pike says: “Clearly RITA has no regard or respect for trainers who are desperate to bring their horses back into work and get their businesses underway after the four-week level four lockdown. “We know your horses must be jumping out of their skin – and your staff keen to start earning money again. “However, due to the lack of transparency and information from RITA, there is much uncertainty around the distribution of funds to the codes for stakes and indeed whether or not RITA is actually even solvent. This gives us no confidence at all in their operation and management of the livelihoods of stakeholders. “We therefore recommend you put off bringing horses back into work until we hear answers to our questions. “Many leading trainers have advised they are not prepared to take the risk of bringing horses back to their stables, when there is a chance they will only have to turn them out again as the stake levels may not justify an owner’s expense.” AddThis Sharing Buttons Share to Facebook

I think they've done a fantastic job with this! Hope trainers, training centres etc. are ready and stake money and draft programmes are now forthcoming.

Not anymore.

No.24 - 24-04-2020 - NZTR Circular FY20 - ALERT LEVEL 3 DIRECTIVE.pdf NZTR Directive COVID-19 Alert Level-3 (Training and Racing).pdf NZTR COVID-19 Health Screening Questionnaire.docx

Approved protocols have also been released.

Just out NZTR has confirmed with the government that Clubs, Trainers, and training centres can undertake business activities (including importantly racing, training and trialling) under Alert Level 3.

More sick than what? Covid-19 was always going to leave more people more sick regardless of the government decision making. It's too soon to tell and we can never exactly know but we seem to me to be on track to make the 'more' less than it might otherwise have been. If you had the decision making power, what would you do differently today to improve future outcomes?

Better than keeping need down to 50% of available hospital beds? What would you consider satisfactory? 20%.....30%

Where is it that they are doing that? I thought it was the opposite but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

Well, I don't need a degree to know that 0% of 0 untraceable cases is zero per head of population.

It's informed opinion which has come up with different answwers in different countries. Which opinion was best can not be known for quite some time and probably never in any robust way as we have no control group.

No. My first degree is in science.

Just in case google isn't working in your bubble Chief. We’ve got the hammers – should we be hitting more nails? https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/22-03-2020/the-government-is-giving-new-orders-do-we-have-to-obey-them/

Some numbers are better than others.

Horse racing: Kiwi thoroughbred trainers threaten to delay return 23/04/2020 Luke Robinson The New Zealand Trainers Association has written to racing's governing body - the Racing Industry Transition Agency - bemoaning a lack of information about the financial future of the sport. Chief among their concerns is a potential change to prize money. "We just want some certainty around what those rewards are going to be once we're back up and racing," NZTA president Tony Pike told Newshub. "Because these horses and the owners and trainers are the ones putting this show on for RITA." Under alert level 3, horses are allowed to train but not yet race. Trainers want clarity before the nationwide lockdown ends on Monday night. "There's a lot of uncertainty regarding the stake money and its distribution and what's happening with RITA," Pike added. "They had a lot of issues to deal with even before COVID-19 hit. They've been poorly managed for a number of years. "It's probably been exacerbated now that we need some certainty going forward for a lot of people in the industry." Pike said the mismanagement means the trend of Kiwi trainers heading to Australia will continue. Racing Industry Transition Agency says the NZTA's concerns have been answered in regular updates during the COVI-19 crisis and will be further addressed at a board meeting next week