Westview Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I'm still trying to figure out this poster's point. Last trot at Methven, help me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westview Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 Just now, Westview said: I'm still trying to figure out this poster's point. Last trot at Methven, help me out. Johnny's horse broke with 800m to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatchcock Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Steve's probably drunk and talking about Race 3. Negligible at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 It must have been a good slight of hand I can't even work out what he is going on about LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 3 hours ago, Spatchcock said: Steve's probably drunk and talking about Race 3. Negligible at best. Its sometimes hard to get into the mind of some punters as often i find things i think obvious are not seen that way by others. I'm sure you've nailed the race.Maybe he follows the gallops mainly and just calls all harness races the trots.Who knows. Calling him drunk seems unfair as he noticed something that i think most who watched the replay would have noticed. Clearly newman was focused on the whereabouts of his stablemate driven by dunn when newman felt the horse he was driving wasn't going to run somewhere. When is the last time you have seen a driver look around like that for a stablemate? Personally ,i didn't think it came close to being anything dodgy at all but in my opinion newman should look at that replay and maybe not make it as obvious next time. Besides dunn needs no help. Edited September 12 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Help! I am totally confused as to what race we are actually talking about where some shenanigans has supposed to have occurred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 13 hours ago, Brodie said: Help! I am totally confused as to what race we are actually talking about where some shenanigans has supposed to have occurred? spatchcock has said race 3 and it must be that one,between the 400m and 200m newman checks to see where the john dunn driven horse is. Sounds like someone on the unhinged website commented it was a big con. That person didn't imagine what he said he saw,it happened,but if you watch it you will most likely think it seems unreasonable for him to infer newmans actions warranted any criticism. Just part of racing,everyone has an opinion which makes things interesting. Edited September 13 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westview Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 2 hours ago, the galah said: spatchcock has said race 3 and it must be that one,between the 400m and 200m newman checks to see where the john dunn driven horse is. Sounds like someone on the unhinged website commented it was a big con. That person didn't imagine what he said he saw,it happened,but if you watch it you will most likely think it seems unreasonable for him to infer newmans actions warranted any criticism. Just part of racing,everyone has an opinion which makes things interesting. I think opinion stops when you call someone a cheat, but that's just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Westview said: I think opinion stops when you call someone a cheat, but that's just my opinion. My take on it is, peoples opinions are peoples opinions whatever they say. Everyone can make up their mind for themselves. in this case the fella saying that referred to something that anyone can look at and make up their own mind.In effect tells people to look at something which if they do,will undemine his opinion. The best rebuttal to his opinion is to tell people to go watch the race and ask yourself when you do,did newmans horse get driven to win and did he in any way assist the john dunn horse finsih any closer. If your going to say people can't ever call someone a cheat then your just suppresing the spotlight that cheating deserves. And it goes without saying,some people do cheat.Cheating can come in different forms. thats my opinion. Edited September 13 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 hours ago, the galah said: newman checks to see where the john dunn driven horse is. Sounds like someone on the unhinged website commented it was a big con. That well that was 2 unplaced runners , that weren't even in contention of running a place. up the home straight. No one was unlucky anyway. no con there. What do you think about Race 2 Addington just now though? race 2 13th Sept Addington. was Frazzled driven out well by Harrison? , or was the more senior stable driver John getting the rub of the green and all the favours aboard Ya Rite Darl . 😆😋🍻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 35 minutes ago, Gammalite said: well that was 2 unplaced runners , that weren't even in contention of running a place. up the home straight. No one was unlucky anyway. no con there. What do you think about Race 2 Addington just now though? race 2 13th Sept Addington. was Frazzled driven out well by Harrison? , or was the more senior stable driver John getting the rub of the green and all the favours aboard Ya Rite Darl . 😆😋🍻 frazzled... in my opinion,very well driven. Looked to be getting close to galloping in the last 100m and did just after the post. Maybe if she hadn't gone quite as hard once she reached the lead, would have kept a touch more in the tank to fight the stablemate off,but then again maybe it needed to run along a bit to keep its mind on the job. beaten fair and square,but only just. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 6 minutes ago, the galah said: frazzled... in my opinion,very well driven. Looked to be getting close to galloping in the last 100m and did just after the post. Maybe if she hadn't gone quite as hard once she reached the lead, would have kept a touch more in the tank to fight the stablemate off,but then again maybe it needed to run along a bit to keep its mind on the job. beaten fair and square,but only just. fair comment. Just looking at the McCaffrey quinella with the young trotters at Auckland , they did it very well. young Emily did a fine job there Had to laugh at Phelan with the 2 favourites as he galloped and baulked his stable-mate the hot favourite 'Meant To Be' into a gallop as well. I Shouldn't laugh at others , but seriously ?. You couldn't possibly bet on some of these races on Friday feature nights. both Addington and Alexandra Park full of galloping horses . is looking like Riccarton and Ellerslie 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gammalite said: fair comment. Just looking at the McCaffrey quinella with the young trotters at Auckland , they did it very well. young Emily did a fine job there Had to laugh at Phelan with the 2 favourites as he galloped and baulked his stable-mate the hot favourite 'Meant To Be' into a gallop as well. I Shouldn't laugh at others , but seriously ?. You couldn't possibly bet on some of these races on Friday feature nights. both Addington and Alexandra Park full of galloping horses . is looking like Riccarton and Ellerslie 😂 i'm not betting myself. But i like ideal delight paying $4 a place in the next at auckland. Do you like anything tonight to give mesomething to watch for an interest? Edited September 13 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) betting turnovers interesting tonight. That timeslot around 5pm in australia certainly make a difference to the pools.In race 3 at addington tabcorp had a $14,175 win pool,$5144 trifecta and $2865 exacta pool.entain had a win pool $12063,trifecta$10099. like i say,its got to be due to more exposure and the time people are at the pubs in australia. Like the following race at addington only had a $2321 win pool on tabcorp and $8139 win pool on entain even though the fields were quite similar in numbers and form. Edited September 13 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 19 minutes ago, the galah said: i'm not betting myself. But i like ideal delight paying $4 a place in the next at auckland. Do you like anything tonight to give mesomething to watch for an interest? Ill give up the tipping.ideal delight just can't get around that last bend at auckland without breaking anymore. In hindsight should have realised that. Oh well, maybe at cambridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 10 minutes ago, the galah said: i'm not betting myself. But i like ideal delight paying $4 a place in the next at auckland. Do you like anything tonight to give mesomething to watch for an interest? hahaha. they're all good races. just watch most without a bet too. Funnily enough a lot of folk complain about the stable-mates helping each other a little , but I just love it. Is so hard on your own , but when there's a few of you , it can really help put the opponents to the sword, and is fascinating to watch. will be interesting how they deal with Duchess Megzit later. (I know what i'd do 😁🤣) those 2 trots we mentioned already the Dunn pair, and the McCaffrey pair were spot on. I'd Tip Mark Purdon anytime. He had one drive tonight and so it would be BEST BET. but he ran 2nd lol. in race 1 beaten by Matty White . (Mark just a shadow of former self 😋?) The trot field in race 6 has the whole field in great form !! a true credit to all the Trainers there. I'm gunna go BOLT FOR THE HILL. as since when has David Butcher on the back marker ever had a good trotter? can't remember any . so i'll go for the amazing SPEEDING SPUR colours of the Dickies. whatta a fantastic trotter he was 🏆 (winning the Great Southern Star one year) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: hahaha. they're all good races. just watch most without a bet too. Funnily enough a lot of folk complain about the stable-mates helping each other a little , but I just love it. Is so hard on your own , but when there's a few of you , it can really help put the opponents to the sword, and is fascinating to watch. will be interesting how they deal with Duchess Megzit later. (I know what i'd do 😁🤣) those 2 trots we mentioned already the Dunn pair, and the McCaffrey pair were spot on. I'd Tip Mark Purdon anytime. He had one drive tonight and so it would be BEST BET. but he ran 2nd lol. in race 1 beaten by Matty White . (Mark just a shadow of former self 😋?) The trot field in race 6 has the whole field in great form !! a true credit to all the Trainers there. I'm gunna go BOLT FOR THE HILL. as since when has David Butcher on the back marker ever had a good trotter? can't remember any . so i'll go for the amazing SPEEDING SPUR colours of the Dickies. whatta a fantastic trotter he was 🏆 (winning the Great Southern Star one year) The $35,000 trot race was a nice even fileld. Over here we had the whale on trackside telling us it was a great betting field and good on the club for putting on these $35,000 races to get betting races like that. Only thing is,its just not true that $35,000 races will get any more betting than any other race.. The pools on those races may be slightly more on the entain nz pool. like the win pool was $2000 more than the prior race but about $4000 less than the previous 7 horse race at auckland. the tabcorp win pool on the $35,000 trot was less than the 2 year old trot and just because theres a higher stake race has little impact on tabcorp betting which gets less each race as the night goes on. So when i hear the whale telling us its a great betting race,hes not talking about turnover. Edited September 13 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Doesn't help tonight that the HRNZ website not working properly. I've been unable to watch any videos of horses previous runs all night and its still not working.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 15 minutes ago, the galah said: Doesn't help tonight that the HRNZ website not working properly. I've been unable to watch any videos of horses previous runs all night and its still not working.. well Mantra Blue was impressive. AKLD . wonder why Zac not driving? must of got concession of some kind I spose?. seems a strange one on one of the best horses going. (potentially) and at Addington young NathanP going ok without dad's help it seems. I think they said Blair pops in to Rolleston a couple of times a week ?. to work the team. So they WON the 3 races tonight they had Pacers in ok . The ConArtist, Vessem, Mr Kaplan. the LUBY loopy trotter needs a trip the beach to run along with Dunn's trotters though 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 17 hours ago, the galah said: Doesn't help tonight that the HRNZ website not working properly. I've been unable to watch any videos of horses previous runs all night and its still not working.. Another day,same problem with the hrnz website.Can't watch any videos,the circle just keeps going around and around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 23 hours ago, Gammalite said: well Mantra Blue was impressive. AKLD . wonder why Zac not driving? must of got concession of some kind I spose?. seems a strange one on one of the best horses going. (potentially) and at Addington young NathanP going ok without dad's help it seems. I think they said Blair pops in to Rolleston a couple of times a week ?. to work the team. So they WON the 3 races tonight they had Pacers in ok . The ConArtist, Vessem, Mr Kaplan. the LUBY loopy trotter needs a trip the beach to run along with Dunn's trotters though 😂 Yeas Gamma , Mantra Blue 's rating was a tad higher so needed to have a concession[ Junior ] driver in order to start. As for the 2 year old trotters I think it reasonable to expect a few breakers ,even though horses these day seem more sensible and well schoole.d That talented Mean't To Be seems a very nervy/spooky type that looks all round and was a little slow to even go out on the track last night.Plus it had done things wrong in its previous 3 x races but had the talent to feature in the finish. Higher Power seems a lot more settled so it's break surprised most. IMO these young trotters must find the night racing under lights a lot different to their training.Even if they trial at the Park it is before the first race when still light. So its all new and the mobile on race night probably has more speed as well. And the young trotters are running at a fair clip...a 2 min Mile Rate featured in the May races and most beat 59 for a half ,first time off their trainers property in workouts or trials. Just watched the two yr old Group 1 at Melton ,after one false start , 2 x horses blew the start in the rerun and tailed off and the first 3 x horses went clear from the remainder at the 300m mark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, TAB For Ever said: Just watched the two yr old Group 1 at Melton ,after one false start , 2 x horses blew the start in the rerun and tailed off and the first 3 x horses went clear from the remainder at the 300m mark. hope you got to see the 3 year old trotting filly. race 2. That was sensational performance . KEAYANG ZAHARA . now won 6 from 6 and burst away with a Sprint that matches the Pacers. (after working around field too) then took a sit . She'll be the next Scotch Notch. The Lee family should book her on the plane now for Trotting Derby and Oaks at Addington as she looks better than Sunny's Sister (who won both last December) at same stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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