the galah Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 there was some really talented horses racing last night. the racing was very good to watch. The turnovers seemed just average with some races being ok and other not so good. The poorer turnover races were the ones that were timed to start within 3 minutes of an australian gallops or an australian trots race. Those nz races that did that tended to get only 50-60% in turnover compared with the ones that didn't. again it just indicated timeslots and pre race coverage so vital for turnover.Harness nz should always try and have timeslots that follow greyhound races as the australian greyhounds nearly always start either on time,or as soon as the race that preceded them has finished,thus creating more lead in coverage time for the race after them. Who allocates the timeslots anyway because in their hands is the fate of the turnovers.Why doesn't hrnz ever talk about that. as to the racing. I thought stella rouge was a standout winner. maybe thats because i backed it,but in all its trails it looks to have special tyalent and the only query for me was how it would have handled its very hard first race a few months ago. i'm unsure what amanda telfer said about it pre race,but i was surprised it ended up going out to $9 on ff. it had run below par first up,but it was very noticeable that night,if you looked at the replay,that it had a really bad discharge from its nose amd clearly wouldn't have been feeling 100%. stella rouge did have a bit of luck as a result of some team driving by the dunn team that back fired. Allets(dunn trained) was travelling very easily in front,but blair orange was immediately looking for a trail as soon as he saw the stablemate improving some way back.So allets went well also. then marketplace defied the odds and came from last to win. You don't see that much,although it was another race where the team driving for the dunns seemed to backfire.The dunn trained Malakai was having an easy time in front and looked to be in with a top chance,but then b orange kicked up and malakai elected to trail i guess because he saw the john dunn caught wide. Malakai,the horse then seemed to get the pricker with being restrained and just said stuff you by the looks of it. Then marketplace just flew home. Lets hope r todd can keep this horse in top form as he sure is fast and r todd is doing a top job with him.C ferguson seems to have the touch when it comes to driving that horse. also the win of rush showed again what a top trainer mark jones is.I think hes one of the best myself. sam ottley driving great as always. The interesting thing about rush is when he won for gavin smith,unhinged would interview mr smith and he would say that he didn't like the horse and that he was always thinking about sacking it. Maybe the horse knew that,and likes being in its new stable. Having said that rush always used to break for the trainer it had before smith.Anyway mark jones team have it in career best form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 37 minutes ago, the galah said: there was some really talented horses racing last night. the racing was very good to watch. The turnovers seemed just average with some races being ok and other not so good. The poorer turnover races were the ones that were timed to start within 3 minutes of an australian gallops or an australian trots race. Those nz races that did that tended to get only 50-60% in turnover compared with the ones that didn't. again it just indicated timeslots and pre race coverage so vital for turnover.Harness nz should always try and have timeslots that follow greyhound races as the australian greyhounds nearly always start either on time,or as soon as the race that preceded them has finished,thus creating more lead in coverage time for the race after them. Who allocates the timeslots anyway because in their hands is the fate of the turnovers.Why doesn't hrnz ever talk about that. as to the racing. I thought stella rouge was a standout winner. maybe thats because i backed it,but in all its trails it looks to have special tyalent and the only query for me was how it would have handled its very hard first race a few months ago. i'm unsure what amanda telfer said about it pre race,but i was surprised it ended up going out to $9 on ff. it had run below par first up,but it was very noticeable that night,if you looked at the replay,that it had a really bad discharge from its nose amd clearly wouldn't have been feeling 100%. stella rouge did have a bit of luck as a result of some team driving by the dunn team that back fired. Allets(dunn trained) was travelling very easily in front,but blair orange was immediately looking for a trail as soon as he saw the stablemate improving some way back.So allets went well also. then marketplace defied the odds and came from last to win. You don't see that much,although it was another race where the team driving for the dunns seemed to backfire.The dunn trained Malakai was having an easy time in front and looked to be in with a top chance,but then b orange kicked up and malakai elected to trail i guess because he saw the john dunn caught wide. Malakai,the horse then seemed to get the pricker with being restrained and just said stuff you by the looks of it. Then marketplace just flew home. Lets hope r todd can keep this horse in top form as he sure is fast and r todd is doing a top job with him.C ferguson seems to have the touch when it comes to driving that horse. also the win of rush showed again what a top trainer mark jones is.I think hes one of the best myself. sam ottley driving great as always. The interesting thing about rush is when he won for gavin smith,unhinged would interview mr smith and he would say that he didn't like the horse and that he was always thinking about sacking it. Maybe the horse knew that,and likes being in its new stable. Having said that rush always used to break for the trainer it had before smith.Anyway mark jones team have it in career best form. some great insights Mr Galah . couldn't agree more there was some good performances with especially the 3 you mentioned in 'Stella Rouge', 'MarketPlace' and 'Rush'' all winning super well. very nice horses. 'Father Time' too , mugged the 3 yearold trotters with authority. John Dunn in an aggressive mood with 'Gone Surfin' and 'Got The Chocolates' with getting them right into the race a lap out in Stella's race and Marketplace's races . A lap of Addington is a Looong way. so he didn't end up getting the chocolates. He is sure having a crack at forcing the pace lately though 😂 . and Mark and Nathan struggling to win with 1/2 dozen horses 😳 ??. 'VESSEM' only just got there , but looked to be struggling a bit. 'Without You' was awful. even 'OscarB' struggled. 'RUBIRA' was ok in 3rd from the bad draw, but MarketPlace made him look like a wombat waddling late on . Allstars might find the better form when 'Don't Stop Dreaming' and 'Catch A Dream' are back soon . will be harder for Big wins for the stable now without 'Akuta' and 'Millwood Nike' though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 The Northern raiders will be down South soon. Entain Boss owned the trifecta in the main race plus took out two other wins. Merlin looks the goods , i guess he'll need to be v the Aussies while YourtheonethatIwant like greased lightning ! And Cold Chisellooks very tidy too ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 (edited) 13 hours ago, Gammalite said: 'RUBIRA' was ok in 3rd from the bad draw, but MarketPlace made him look like a wombat waddling late on . Not quite there in the coat? Pre race stretching could alleviate the waddling. Edited October 4 by Rangatira 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 7 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: The Northern raiders will be down South soon. Entain Boss owned the trifecta in the main race plus took out two other wins. Merlin looks the goods , i guess he'll need to be v the Aussies while YourtheonethatIwant like greased lightning ! And Cold Chisellooks very tidy too ! Cold Chisel already with the Northern Derby in his keeping . The 'Merlin' Entain boss Dean really rocking it lately with YourTheOneThatiWant now joining in. 🤣 he's channelling some Grease energy there. It's a wonder there's not a ''Greased Lightning' racing somewhere for him 🕺💃 He sold 'KISS' off to the Aussies though. Gene Simmons won't be happy about that 😅. KISS is in the Victoria Oaks heats tomorrow night. Dean also sent INXS and Supertramp to Oz to try and rock the scene up a bit. Supertramp not raced though here but INXS won 3 in the Winter, but was down the track in the Group 1 QLD Derby won by the good NZ owned/trained horses 'Major Hot' in July. Dean is Sure as Eggs to have a great November at Addington Cup week with his 'good band ' of Barry Purdon/Phelan stars anyway. Bit of Merlin magic very likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 On 10/4/2024 at 11:07 AM, the galah said: the win of rush showed again what a top trainer mark jones is.I think hes one of the best myself. sam ottley driving great as always. The interesting thing about rush is when he won for gavin smith,unhinged would interview mr smith and he would say that he didn't like the horse and that he was always thinking about sacking it. Maybe the horse knew that,and likes being in its new stable. Having said that rush always used to break for the trainer it had before smith.Anyway mark jones team have it in career best form. And won at Methven again today in the Fillies and mares classic trot. Rush came up the home straight nearly 'sideways' like a crab, and with more fancy Leg-Work than the Brodster used to strutt around on the dance floor, but Sam Ottley somehow Held her Togeather to take the Win . Sam is fabulous driver as you suggested at getting rough going ones going ok. 3 yearold filly KEAYANG Zahara would beat her (Rush) by 50m ( after another easy win last night) But full credit to Sam for that win today on RUSH. and some Canny training by Mark Jones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 (edited) 17 hours ago, Gammalite said: And won at Methven again today in the Fillies and mares classic trot. Rush came up the home straight nearly 'sideways' like a crab, and with more fancy Leg-Work than the Brodster used to strutt around on the dance floor, but Sam Ottley somehow Held her Togeather to take the Win . Sam is fabulous driver as you suggested at getting rough going ones going ok. 3 yearold filly KEAYANG Zahara would beat her (Rush) by 50m ( after another easy win last night) But full credit to Sam for that win today on RUSH. and some Canny training by Mark Jones. yes ,she thought about breaking half way down the straight,but then just dug in for the fight. She was bought just 7 weeks ago 14 august for $3,300 on gavel house. She's earned over $30,000 since. She had been a last start winner for gavin smith when sold ,although she had proved a headache for him at times and going by his comments on unhinged he was pleased to see her go. Smith did think she would make a nice cambridge horse and was suited to small tracks,but as horses can do sometimes,shes exceeded his expectations and proved she can win at addington on a high class night and then on the big methven track. i think a large part of the key is mark jones and his staff,get on well with mares and that having a fresh approach has seen rush wanting to give her best for them. Getting horses to try for you,especially trotters, when they are used to taking the easy way out is a worthy achievement from the jones stable . She will be on a hard mark now,but irrespective of what she may do going forward she has well and truly proved a good purchase. The jones stable has done that with the likes of bella button and lizzie richter in the last couple of seasons. i see ross mccutcheon owned a share in both bella button and rush Edited October 7 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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