Thomass Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, FeelTheFear said: Typical definition of a troll Trolling – (verb), as it relates to internet, is the deliberate act, (by a Troll – noun or adjective), of making random unsolicited and/or controversial comments on various internet forums with the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument You're seriously Wong I was invited to this thread....I only post FACTS.... Contoversial is b/s...Its called having an OPINION ...and the only jerk here is...not moi! Besides...whats Wong with describing how hot moi's life is...are yous Fellas jealous az? I posted relly interesting FACTS wrt to track updates for the benefit of the Ig or rants..so they won't get their prices WONG How is that trolling you troll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Thomass said: FYI you invited moi into this thread... Who said only selections are ALOUD?? Id say buy a SOH pop! I invited you to post ur assessment of the Bonecrusher Stakes, 90% of ur post related to ur lewd fantasies Now either learn some decorum, there are women on here that don't want to be hijacked by that shit or men with more respect to mention it, or fuck off to RC I hear Scoobs is a changed man and desperate for posters so u shud be right And don't pass it off as humour becos it's not 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, hesi said: I invited you to post ur assessment of the Bonecrusher Stakes, 90% of ur post related to ur lewd fantasies Now either learn some decorum, there are women on here that don't want to be hijacked by that shit or men with more respect to mention it, or fuck off to RC I hear Scoobs is a changed man and desperate for posters so u shud be right And don't pass it off as humour becos it's not Actually it was 50% you shrew... And it relly happened! What's wrong with your Princess getting on your back to provide more dead weight ffs? In your case, you may want a Prince? Onya...Im not racist! I get texts from women on this site pleading for more..and even invites to scary dark places..vis are vis Carparks...with no CCTV! You're obviously jealous! Now if we can get back to picking winners which is what I'm trying to do instead of replying to millers! Xx BTW...you're Lingo is very unbecoming for fragile lay dies reading..and effeminate males! This is NZ's Premier site, thanks to moi, and for you to lecture moi on decorum with such fowl fingers is quite ironic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 OK here goes excitement plus, the princess is excited she wants a trip to the big apple. I was going to say she's had a trip to the big banana (Coffs Harbour) but I won't otherwise I'll start sounding like the tank! Rosehill Race 7 08/12/2019 1) Albumin $4-54 TAB PRICE $7-00 2) Coruscate $10 $5-00 3) Tango Rain $20 $12-00 4) Bon Amis $13-33 $4-80 5) Redouble $31-25 $9-00 6) Single Bullet $16-66 $8-00 7) Viceroy $57-14 $31-00 8 Jorda $15-38 $12-00 9) Slow Burn $12-50 $9-00 10) Niccobelle $50 $34-00 11) Ever So Natural $13-33 $26-00 12) Junglized $12-50 $15-00 13) Niccolance $10-52 $$17-00 14) Isorich $100 $81-00 15) Sedition $66.66 $26-00 16) Destiny's Reward $200 $126-00 So that's my market I applied for the very first time principals 1) Track 2) Distance 3) Last start/Fresh Up/2nd Up record 4) Jockey 5) Trainer 6) Track Conditions 7) How they will track in the race SPEED MAP 8 Barrier 9) Strike Rate how many starts 10) Age and how many starts into prep The prices above are a reflection of the principals I will also do another set of ratings based on my knowledge of how I read the race I would have have on top 1) slow Burn 2) Albumin 3) Single Bullet 4) Bon Amis 5) Coruscate So that's it when I attempt something there are no half measures I'm either going to be successful or fail at this …………..my money is on fail but hey it's going to be fun trying 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I love the fact that I have Mr T(roll) blocked and he still obviously posts responses to me but I can't read them Hahahaha. Don't care either. The only thing is guys, please don't quote him because then I can see what he has written. Cheers to those that have put up their markets which is what this thread is all about. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) Not the Bonecrusher but had a go at the Captain Cook and came up with Ocean Emperor as the only value. Rated him 6 bucks but currently at 8.50. First time doing this so who knows? Edited December 7, 2018 by pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, pete said: Not the Bonecrusher but had a go at the Captain Cook and came up with Ocean Emperor as the only value. Rated him 6 bucks but currently at 8.50. First time doing this so who knows? I am going to back Shes Poppy, rated her $12.00 massive overs for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 3 hours ago, VC! said: OK here goes excitement plus, the princess is excited she wants a trip to the big apple. I was going to say she's had a trip to the big banana (Coffs Harbour) but I won't otherwise I'll start sounding like the tank! Rosehill Race 7 08/12/2019 1) Albumin $4-54 TAB PRICE $7-00 2) Coruscate $10 $5-00 3) Tango Rain $20 $12-00 4) Bon Amis $13-33 $4-80 5) Redouble $31-25 $9-00 6) Single Bullet $16-66 $8-00 7) Viceroy $57-14 $31-00 8 Jorda $15-38 $12-00 9) Slow Burn $12-50 $9-00 10) Niccobelle $50 $34-00 11) Ever So Natural $13-33 $26-00 12) Junglized $12-50 $15-00 13) Niccolance $10-52 $$17-00 14) Isorich $100 $81-00 15) Sedition $66.66 $26-00 16) Destiny's Reward $200 $126-00 So that's my market I applied for the very first time principals 1) Track 2) Distance 3) Last start/Fresh Up/2nd Up record 4) Jockey 5) Trainer 6) Track Conditions 7) How they will track in the race SPEED MAP 8 Barrier 9) Strike Rate how many starts 10) Age and how many starts into prep The prices above are a reflection of the principals I will also do another set of ratings based on my knowledge of how I read the race I would have have on top 1) slow Burn 2) Albumin 3) Single Bullet 4) Bon Amis 5) Coruscate So that's it when I attempt something there are no half measures I'm either going to be successful or fail at this …………..my money is on fail but hey it's going to be fun trying I've priced Jorda at $7.20, so that would be my go. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) Update - odds may change Bonecrusher Stakes # Runner Predicted Time Chance% mardi TAB FTF barryb Newmarket Curious Thomass 9 Langkawi 1:26.94 16.95 $5.90 $8.00 $9.54 $10.00 $5.00 2 Star Performance 1:26.94 16.67 $6.00 $9.50 n/a $4.00 n/a 12 Surely Sacred 1:26.94 14.29 $7.00 $13.00 $11.64 n/a $8.00 7 Hypos 1:27.18 10.00 $10.00 $11.00 $9.97 n/a n/a 5 Spirits Aubeer 1:27.27 8.33 $12.00 $8.00 n/a n/a n/a 11 Roll The Dice 1:27.27 8.00 $12.50 $35.00 $8.65 n/a n/a 3 Masetto 1.27.29 6.06 $16.50 $4.20 $10.98 n/a n/a 8 Cantstopthefeeling 1.27.29 5.26 $19.00 $23.00 n/a n/a $11.00 6 Cavallo Veloce 1:27.29 4.17 $24.00 $21.00 n/a $12.50 $11.00 1 Bocce 1:27.29 3.85 $26.00 $13.00 n/a $9.00 n/a 10 Quizmaster 1:27.29 3.70 $27.00 $16.00 n/a n/a n/a 4 Total Excess 1:27.30 2.50 $40.00 $4.80 $6.95 $6.00 $6.00 13 Musical Blues 1:27.73 0.20 $500.00 $31.00 n/a n/a n/a 99.98 Edited December 7, 2018 by mardigras 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Masetto well under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Masetto well under as is Total Excess. Roll The Dice looks great value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Bet Easy FO Bocce $14 Star Performance $9.50 Masetto $4.40 Total Excess $4.40 Spirits Aubeer $7.50 Cavallo Veloce $21 Hypnos $12 Cantstopthefeeling $18 Langkawi $7.50 Quizmaster $17 Roll The Dice $34 Surely Sacred $13 Musical Blues $34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Mr T's column just put n/a (not accomplished) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldandtired Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Star Performance $5 Masetto $6 Spirits Aubeer $8 Hypnos $8 Surely Sacred $10 Cavallo Veloce $10 Quizmaster $20 Total Excess $20 May be adjusted on the day pending track condions or if any track bias. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, VC! said: I would have have on top 1) Slow Burn $4-16...….. 24% Chance 2) Albumin $4-76...……….21% Chance 3) Single Bullet $6-66...…….15%Chance 4) Bon Amis..$8-33...…..12% Chance 5) Coruscate $8-34...…...12% Chance 6) Jorda $10.00......10%Chance 7) Redouble $16-66 6% Chance The rest 0% chance My first graph was based on what Don Scott would say form form form!!! The one above is done in much quicker time just based on my knowledge the thing I haven't done.... is back value Slow Burn her last start was more like a trial untested down the straight, she maps well to get a decent run midfield on a race that looks to have a fair amount of speed her fresh up record is 4/2 I'm putting her in the fresh up category as her last start was like a trial so her fresh up record should read 3/2 she is unbeaten at the distance Albumin trialled nicely at Rosehill on the 19th/11th Jay Ford rode him in the trial and has maintained the ride Saturday he has had 6 starts at Rosehill for 4 wins...…...6 starts at the distance for 4 wins a second and a third...……...track and distance 3 from 3 has won 5 from 14 on a good track with 3 minor placings maps beautifully from gate 1 with a slow beginner in gate 2 and the likely early leader drawn gate 3 should be 3 or 4 back the fence Single Bullet change of tactics last start ridden quite and finished hard to score has raced against tougher opposition on many occasions has been freshened and if they ride him similar to last start with a bit of pace in this race he could finish over the top of them These are the 3 horses that are over the odds so they represent value under my assessment Sticking to level stakes so 1 unit on each Albumin $7 back now as I expect to shorten Slow Burn $10s available Single Bullet $8s available 3 Selections from first post 1 unit on each Albumin Ever So Natural Niccolance Ever So Natural and Niccolance I actually don't like but the ratings I set have suggested they are over the odds Finally regardless of the result whether they win or lose doesn't prove anything as its only one race I need to do all Sydney and Melbourne ratings on just about all races to see how I go trial this for 3 months although I should have a fair idea after 1 month Hope you all have a profitable day punting wise make plenty!!!! its a tough game Edited December 7, 2018 by VC! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Sorry for the delay. Working under some difficulty here and as others have said, not much data, but based on a Dead 5, best I can do for now. Might have time for an update tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Boys and gals.. Can we get your ACTUAL tips... Posting a whole bunch of prices like C has done is hopeless... How will you use those prices? Top 3 as grass does...All neddys at overs...what? It'll be a D4 by race time...the Princess said she could feel it in her waters...and I agree! Stand by for another MASTERCLASS...but in the meantime..just do as you're told and post what Punters should do with your 'gems' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, Thomass said: Boys and gals.. Can we get your ACTUAL tips... Posting a whole bunch of prices like C has done is hopeless... How will you use those prices? Top 3 as grass does...All neddys at overs...what? It'll be a D4 by race time...the Princess said she could feel it in her waters...and I agree! Stand by for another MASTERCLASS...but in the meantime..just do as you're told and post what Punters should do with your 'gems' You go first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) As at this morning. Odds for some are without removal of #13. TAB market set at 126%! Bonecrusher Stakes # Runner Predicted Time mardi TAB FTF barryb Newmarket oldandtired curious 1 Bocce 1:25.30 $17.00 $14.00 n/a $9.00 n/a n/a $25.00 2 Star Performance 1:24.72 $4.00 $8.50 n/a $4.00 n/a $5.00 $7.00 3 Masetto 1:25.23 $12.00 $4.40 $10.98 n/a n/a $6.00 $11.00 4 Total Excess 1:25.32 $18.00 $4.60 $6.95 $6.00 $6.00 $20.00 $11.00 5 Spirits Aubeer 1:25.16 $11.00 $8.00 n/a n/a n/a $8.00 $16.00 6 Cavallo Veloce 1:25.26 $14.50 $21.00 n/a $12.50 $11.00 $10.00 $24.00 7 Hypos 1:25.26 $16.00 $11.00 $9.97 n/a n/a $8.00 $10.00 8 Cantstopthefeeling 1:25.41 $24.00 $14.00 n/a n/a $11.00 n/a $25.00 9 Langkawi 1:25.13 $11.00 $8.00 $9.54 $10.00 $5.00 n/a $7.00 10 Quizmaster 1:25.58 $34.00 $16.00 n/a n/a n/a $20.00 $20.00 11 Roll The Dice 1:25.23 $14.50 $35.00 $8.65 n/a n/a n/a $18.00 12 Surely Sacred 1:25.12 $10.00 $13.00 $11.64 n/a $8.00 $10.00 $11.00 For me, if betting, I'd be on Star Performance clearly. If I was laying, I'd still be laying Total Excess and even Masetto. TAB shortener is Cantstopthefeeling from $23 to $14. Edited December 7, 2018 by mardigras 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: You go first. Yeah... Might be my phone but I don't see the BP market yet? No bet for me on that race anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Correct me if I'm wrong. Still trying to get my head around this approach. But based on those assessments and what the TAB is offering Star Performance is the value bet at this stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldandtired Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, mardigras said: As at this morning. Odds for some are without removal of #13. TAB market set at 126%! Bonecrusher Stakes # Runner Predicted Time mardi TAB FTF barryb Newmarket oldandtired curious 1 Bocce 1:25.30 $17.00 $14.00 n/a $9.00 n/a n/a $25.00 2 Star Performance 1:24.72 $4.00 $8.50 n/a $4.00 n/a $5.00 $7.00 3 Masetto 1:25.23 $12.00 $4.40 $10.98 n/a n/a $6.00 $11.00 4 Total Excess 1:25.32 $18.00 $4.60 $6.95 $6.00 $6.00 $20.00 $11.00 5 Spirits Aubeer 1:25.16 $11.00 $8.00 n/a n/a n/a $8.00 $16.00 6 Cavallo Veloce 1:25.26 $14.50 $21.00 n/a $12.50 $11.00 $10.00 $24.00 7 Hypos 1:25.26 $16.00 $11.00 $9.97 n/a n/a $8.00 $10.00 8 Cantstopthefeeling 1:25.41 $24.00 $14.00 n/a n/a $11.00 n/a $25.00 9 Langkawi 1:25.13 $11.00 $8.00 $9.54 $10.00 $5.00 n/a $7.00 10 Quizmaster 1:25.58 $34.00 $16.00 n/a n/a n/a $20.00 $20.00 11 Roll The Dice 1:25.23 $14.50 $35.00 $8.65 n/a n/a n/a $18.00 12 Surely Sacred 1:25.12 $10.00 $13.00 $11.64 n/a $8.00 $10.00 $11.00 For me, if betting, I'd be on Star Performance clearly. If I was laying, I'd still be laying Total Excess and even Masetto. Im on Star Performance 1 unit Hypnos .65 units Simply Sacred .5 units cavallo veloce .5 units at current prices assuming track conditions are fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Correct me if I'm wrong. Still trying to get my head around this approach. But based on those assessments and what the TAB is offering Star Performance is the value bet at this stage? correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, barryb said: correct. Thomarse does that help sort your bets out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) Thomas has no idea - full of BS - first class tosser Edited December 7, 2018 by Turny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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