MASSIVE cheating in NZ Cup

[Thomass]

So no surprises Kelly Myers resorts to cheating on her fav. owners horse BEAVERTOWN BOY

!0 strikes before the 100M including consecutive strides where 5's allowed and deserves a DQ for that.  Would never have won but in other enlightened jurisdictions it doesn't matter

Alarmingly NZTR have made ZERO mention of having a DQ option in their new whip rulings

Cheating in Black Type racing will continue on then.

NZTR

Lovesracing HATES integrity 

[curious]

17 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Alarmingly NZTR have made ZERO mention of having a DQ option in their new whip rulings

Where are the new whip rules? Last I heard they were to be sent out for consultation but I haven't seen them yet.

[Thomass]

I saw the 'consultation' proposal they usually send out to trainers...was that the one you put up?

When Matthew Cameron outrageously cheated in the Sistema 2 years ago Guerin had Jammie Richards on who was asked in roundabout terms

"does that relly relly annoy the f*** out of you getting beaten by a downright cheat and severely compromising the INTEGRITY of G1  Black Type"??

Jammie, not wanting to be a 'sore loser'

 "I just get out of bed every morning and brush me teeth"

Guerin contacted NZTR he was that ropable

"when tf are you going to change the rules as per International norms"?

NZTR

"na we're not"!

F***witz

 

[Tragedy Beat]

Clown

[Thomass]

Heard of poetic license?

Look it up 

The point is NZTR allow outrageous cheating, usually in Black Type racing where trainers/jockeys are bursting their foo foo valves for possible cheating owners as well

What's to stop a determined breeder to issue instructions to whoever

"do ALL you can to win, knock ANYTHING over, beat the shit out of it"

..and I'll look after you post fine and suspension"

...because as sure as eggs are eggs we CANT LOSE it in the room"

Other countries?

of course not...DQ's and RIGHTLY  so

[Thomass]

21 hours ago, curious said:

Where are the new whip rules? Last I heard they were to be sent out for consultation but I haven't seen them yet.

So nothing about DQ's for cheating.  NZTR have once again pulled the EXPEDIENT rabbit out of the bag.  Lazy, disgraceful 'governing'

"PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE RULES OF RACING NZTR seeks comment on the following proposed amendments to the Rules of Racing.

Should you wish to make any comments or provide any other feedback please do so in writing to colin.hall@nztr.co.nz. on or before 25th November 2024. Words to be added are in bold and underlined. Words to be deleted are struck through.

WHIP USE. Background: The International Agreement on Breeding, Racing and Wagering contains a number of prohibitions on the use of the whip by riders in Flat and Jumps races.

Most of these prohibitions are contained in Rule 638(3)(f). In order to align the Rules with the International Agreement it is proposed that Rule 638(3)(f) be amended as follows:

(f) Without limiting the generality of subrule 638(3)(e), in a Flat Race or Jumping Race, a Trial (including jump-outs and/or tests for certification purposes) a Rider must not use his or her whip:

(i) forward of the Rider’s horse’s shoulder or in the vicinity of its head; or

(ii) using an action that raises the Rider’s arm above shoulder height; or

(iii) when the Rider’s horse is out of contention of winning or otherwise finishing in the first five placings; or (iv) when the Rider’s horse is showing no response; or

(v) after passing the winning post; or (vi) in a manner that causes a welt and/or injury to the Rider’s horse; or

(vii) when the Rider’s horse is clearly winning; or

(viii) when the Rider’s horse has no reasonable prospect of improving or losing its position; or (ix) in a manner where the seam of the flap is the point of contact with the horse, unless the Rider satisfies the Stewards that that was neither deliberate nor reckless, or

(x) on the flank of the Rider’s horse; or (xi) forward of the Rider’s saddle whilst the whip is held in the forehand position. 

 

[curious]

31 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Heard of poetic license?

Look it up 

The point is NZTR allow outrageous cheating, usually in Black Type racing where trainers/jockeys are bursting their foo foo valves for possible cheating owners as well

What's to stop a determined breeder to issue instructions to whoever

"do ALL you can to win, knock ANYTHING over, beat the shit out of it"

..and I'll look after you post fine and suspension"

...because as sure as eggs are eggs we CANT LOSE it in the room"

Other countries?

of course not...DQ's and RIGHTLY  so

The excessive whip breaches in the NZ Cup, would have been an instant DQ in the US, UK and France.

[curious]

30 minutes ago, Thomass said:

So nothing about DQ's for cheating.  NZTR have once again pulled the EXPEDIENT rabbit out of the bag.  Lazy, disgraceful 'governing'

"PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE RULES OF RACING NZTR seeks comment on the following proposed amendments to the Rules of Racing.

Should you wish to make any comments or provide any other feedback please do so in writing to colin.hall@nztr.co.nz. on or before 25th November 2024. Words to be added are in bold and underlined. Words to be deleted are struck through.

WHIP USE. Background: The International Agreement on Breeding, Racing and Wagering contains a number of prohibitions on the use of the whip by riders in Flat and Jumps races.

Most of these prohibitions are contained in Rule 638(3)(f). In order to align the Rules with the International Agreement it is proposed that Rule 638(3)(f) be amended as follows:

(f) Without limiting the generality of subrule 638(3)(e), in a Flat Race or Jumping Race, a Trial (including jump-outs and/or tests for certification purposes) a Rider must not use his or her whip:

(i) forward of the Rider’s horse’s shoulder or in the vicinity of its head; or

(ii) using an action that raises the Rider’s arm above shoulder height; or

(iii) when the Rider’s horse is out of contention of winning or otherwise finishing in the first five placings; or (iv) when the Rider’s horse is showing no response; or

(v) after passing the winning post; or (vi) in a manner that causes a welt and/or injury to the Rider’s horse; or

(vii) when the Rider’s horse is clearly winning; or

(viii) when the Rider’s horse has no reasonable prospect of improving or losing its position; or (ix) in a manner where the seam of the flap is the point of contact with the horse, unless the Rider satisfies the Stewards that that was neither deliberate nor reckless, or

(x) on the flank of the Rider’s horse; or (xi) forward of the Rider’s saddle whilst the whip is held in the forehand position. 

 

Good work. Where the hell did you find that? I can't see it anywhere. Did any other owners or trainers get it?