muzenza365 Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 Ok TEAM I BELIEVE THIS GUY IS OUT OF HIS DEPTH. What I would like the team to go and have a look at is R2 at Taranaki where Ace Lawson got a 5 day suspension. He is riding a horse named Sesimbra in Velas colours and wins, paying $5 50. He is charged for interference with the last-placed horse, Justadude, which finishes 24l last at the 550m mark. How Ace Carrol gets a 5-day suspension? To me, it borders on incompetence by Oatham to even charge him. The horse he is alleged and found guilty of was going backwards and the overreacting by the rider of Justadude it does not mean a charge was warranted and worse he pleaded Guilty. This rubbish must stop, do not plead Guilty if the charge is cringeworthy and you may get a 1 day reduction if you plead Guilty. Have a look at the Stewards video and I will trust my opinion and hope you guys agree Oatham is a joke and an embarrassment to our industry. I watch a lot of the videos and this guy is not the real deal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 I tend to agree about Oatham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 6 hours ago, Trojan said: I tend to agree about Oatham. I think others will concur too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, muzenza365 said: Ok TEAM I BELIEVE THIS GUY IS OUT OF HIS DEPTH. What I would like the team to go and have a look at is R2 at Taranaki where Ace Lawson got a 5 day suspension. He is riding a horse named Sesimbra in Velas colours and wins, paying $5 50. He is charged for interference with the last-placed horse, Justadude, which finishes 24l last at the 550m mark. How Ace Carrol gets a 5-day suspension? To me, it borders on incompetence by Oatham to even charge him. The horse he is alleged and found guilty of was going backwards and the overreacting by the rider of Justadude it does not mean a charge was warranted and worse he pleaded Guilty. This rubbish must stop, do not plead Guilty if the charge is cringeworthy and you may get a 1 day reduction if you plead Guilty. Have a look at the Stewards video and I will trust my opinion and hope you guys agree Oatham is a joke and an embarrassment to our industry. I watch a lot of the videos and this guy is not the real deal Clear interference to me. Cut under its neck and took the other horse's line. I agree with the adjudicator and the stewards bringing the charge. Should happen more often to put a stop to this shit. Edited November 22, 2024 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 I just looked at the results of yesterday's Taranaki meeting and couldn't find any of those jockeys or horses. I must be living in a parallel universe. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 14 minutes ago, Doomed said: I just looked at the results of yesterday's Taranaki meeting and couldn't find any of those jockeys or horses. I must be living in a parallel universe. same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/53160/2/Race-Detail.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 looked rather dangerous to my eyes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 Yes. And unnecessary. If policing was more consistent and action taken riding standards might improve. Doesn't alter the opinions on Oatham though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Murray Fish said: looked rather dangerous to my eyes... Very to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 My only criticism of Oatham here is that the stewards should have gone for a greater penalty given the egregious nature of the incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzenza365 Posted November 22, 2024 Author Share Posted November 22, 2024 Was that worth a 5-day holiday? He was 1 stride early when angling out, anyone could see that Justadude was giving ground quickly and continued to give ground. I feel that if it was a senior rider on that horse a warning would have been given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, muzenza365 said: Was that worth a 5-day holiday? He was 1 stride early when angling out, anyone could see that Justadude was giving ground quickly and continued to give ground. I feel that if it was a senior rider on that horse a warning would have been given I'd regard it as probably reckless, so would have got 6 weeks. That he escaped with low range careless is extremely generous imo. Should have been at least mid to high range 7-10 days. From my view Justadude gave ground from being chopped off in the incident and was a winning chance at that stage, not that that has anything to do with it. Edited November 23, 2024 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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