Thomass Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 So the big "investigation" into judge John Craig's Pukekohe photo finish frame up amounts to... WHAT?? More like WTF is it RIB?? How can a Barry Lichter expose, with damning interviews, amount to ZERO comment post Oatham's advised "I'm going to talk to John Craig" It's an extraordinary FAIL of the basIc INTEGRITY FUNCTION of TRANSPARENCY New boy CEO RIB Dr. Eliot Forbes (sacked from Queensland) has been caught with his pants around his ankles though.. trying to hide the industry's blushes COP the f on Eliot, do your job, ignore Oatham's limp wristed response and show some f'in leadership ffs make a PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 3 Author Share Posted December 3 What's alarming is the apparent cosyness of the RIB and Entain after the RIB told them to stop 'deductions' What business has an integrity unit in managing the financials of an international gambling conglomerate? Did Entain inform the RIB to "brush it under the carpet John, it's a bad look for the industry/punters" Entain are not only managing the 'media narrative' but it appears they've got the RIB by the short and curlys as well?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 3 Author Share Posted December 3 #nodeductions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 1 hour ago, Thomass said: What's alarming is the apparent cosyness of the RIB and Entain after the RIB told them to stop 'deductions' What business has an integrity unit in managing the financials of an international gambling conglomerate? Makes perfect sense to me. Although the RIB could have told the Harness NZ to manage the cause of the problem better. Hopefully the codes and the RIB instruct ENTAIN to do away with the stupid head-to-head bets in the interests of animal welfare and racing integrity. You'd be in favour of that wouldn't you @Thomass ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 4 Author Share Posted December 4 As long as trainers are running horses on their merits it has absolutely nothing to do with the RIB Has the Kremlin inspired ENTAIN banned any talk about integrity/f ups/ on their biased media? #absofinlutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 22 minutes ago, Thomass said: As long as trainers are running horses on their merits it has absolutely nothing to do with the RIB Of course it has something to do with the RIB (AND NZTR) if a betting product is not in the interests of horse welfare or safety and brings the integrity of racing into doubt. I thought you would be all over it but I guess because you didn't think of it first you automatically take the opposite view! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 The Racing Integrity Board promotes and ensures compliance with high standards of integrity, animal welfare and professionalism by people in the racing industry. The Racing Integrity Board’s core functions are: Compliance and enforcement with racing rules and regulations Prohibited substances testing for animals and people Raceday veterinary services and monitoring racing code animal welfare policies and initiatives Adjudicative services 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5 Author Share Posted December 5 22 hours ago, curious said: The Racing Integrity Board promotes and ensures compliance with high standards of integrity, animal welfare and professionalism by people in the racing industry. The Racing Integrity Board’s core functions are: Compliance and enforcement with racing rules and regulations Prohibited substances testing for animals and people Raceday veterinary services and monitoring racing code animal welfare policies and initiatives Adjudicative services Interesting So nothing about 'not allowing a scratching after the track has deteriorated due to punters winning more than they should' rule then? I wonder if one of the "regulations" is 'dont force the time keeper to draw 2 lines down a page while his arm is twisted at right angles'? Or 'dont change the official time to a made up one that makes one's 'placings' look about right' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 So will the 'INTEGRITY' unit FINALLY do their job today and put to rest the so called 'judges' idea that it's ok to change the official time to suit his crazy final 'judgement'?? Maybe George, Brady, time keeper guy, other stipe guy et el are all wrong and as John Oatham says "Craig has super duper contrast tech" Yea na Timing to 1000th/sec beats a human eye EVERY time TRANSPARENCY John Oatham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 1 hour ago, Thomass said: Timing to 1000th/sec beats a human eye EVERY time Right so you want official times to be recorde to 1000th/sec? So Aladdin Sane recorded 1:39.124 and Sinhaman recorded 1:39.125. There fixed it for you. Judge's decision final. I've told this story before but one of my primary school mates Dad in Hokitika was the Judge for the Westland Racing Club. Over a few rums at his Dad's wake late in the evening the subject of an old framed photo finish picture in the hallway came up. My mate didn't have a clue why it was there. My own father had told me the story at the time when the photo was taken - he and I were both on course. Dad being a Committee Member. The Judge had called the 4th horse 1st! Even when it was clear on the old style grainy brownish coloured photo finish that the horse was 4th! Placings stood. Judges decision final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzenza365 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Taking of Hokitika,My mate told me when he was the Timekeeper at a meeting when the track was a bog. The official time was 2m 02s for the 1605m race. But he had heard that pacers could break 2m for the mile, so he quickly changed the time to 1m 59s 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 9 Author Share Posted December 9 On 7/12/2024 at 10:57 AM, Chief Stipe said: Right so you want official times to be recorde to 1000th/sec? So Aladdin Sane recorded 1:39.124 and Sinhaman recorded 1:39.125. There fixed it for you. Judge's decision final. You forgot the pre text "I instructed the time keeper to draw 2 indiscriminate lines up to fit in with my 'judging' then changed the margins to 0.2 (not the nose 0.1) on NZTR's 'wacky world of fake news" RIB's core duty is to sort out b/s like this Not instruct the Commie Kremlin's sole supplier of gambling to stop 'no deductions' to avoid blushes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 9 Author Share Posted December 9 Just a big nod here to both De Lore and Lichter, THE only racing journos not in the pocket of the Commie Kremlin lovers ENTAIN Has ANY ENTAIN 'journo' mentioned the total lack of RIB action over this debacle?? Not on your nelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 2 hours ago, Thomass said: Just a big nod here to both De Lore and Lichter, THE only racing journos not in the pocket of the Commie Kremlin lovers ENTAIN De Lore hasn't written a rational article in a decade and Lichter is in the pocket of the owners he writes for who just happened to be affected by the Judge's decision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 Archer's too tight to pay Lichter a brass razoo Before the Kremiln's ENTAIN took over Guerin was pretty much rooting for the punter Now he's got his own show all he does is mouth the Communist ENTAIN narrative of what's good for the Dictator is good for him... and stuff the proletariat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 2 hours ago, Trojan said: De Lore hasn't written a rational article in a decade I found that he doesn't handle it that well when his wisdom is challenged! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 11 Author Share Posted December 11 So I've made a few inquiries The 'Judge' is employed by the RIB The photo finish operator aka as The Time keeper is employed by the club This is how it played out as Operator times the race to 1000th'/sec and cant find a margin 'Judge' informs the operator he's to draw 2 lines down his pik so it looks as if there's a nose margin Operator reluctantly draws the fake lines 'Judge' then sends his own made up times to 100th/sec to nztr..finding a .01 sec fake margin and then adjusts the visual margin to 0.2L rather than the usual nose 0.1L Presumably trying to indicate how big his version of the fake nose was Just like Pinocchio And the HOPELESS RIB thinks Nothing more needs to be said...move on #pfftt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 3 hours ago, Thomass said: Nothing more needs to be said...move on Hopefully you'll follow your own advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 12 Author Share Posted December 12 56 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Hopefully you'll follow your own advice! "not everyone is sufficiently intelligent to be able to see things from the right point of view" What Don said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 8 minutes ago, Thomass said: "not everyone is sufficiently intelligent to be able to see things from the right point of view" What Don said How self prophetic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 18 Author Share Posted December 18 WTF is going on with these 'judges'?? John Craig got the DCM and a new 'judge'?? Clearly a huge margin 3/4th, luckily Ruakaka have the stipes close to the Magoo 'judge', as opposed to Puke where the officail timekeeper & 'judge' nearly came to fistcuffs The Judge’s call was amended prior to the authorisation of dividends. The original call being 1 st SWEET BUT PSYCHO, 2 nd APACHE ANNE, 3 rd SUNSET BOULEVARD, 4 th BECAUSE. The amended official placings were 1 st SWEET BUT PSYCHO, 2 nd APACHE ANNE, 3 rd BECAUSE, 4th SUNSET BOULEVARD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted December 19 Share Posted December 19 I see you missed the other pertinent comment about the race in the Stewards report. Regardless the correct result was declared even if the Judges call was wrong initially. Happens a lot actually but that fact doesn't support your conspiratorial agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted Sunday at 01:43 AM Author Share Posted Sunday at 01:43 AM Listen up You're talking utter crap The Judge CONFIRMED the result The Stipes had to rubber stamp the result and knew the 'confirmed' result was b/s If, as happened at Puke, the Stipes were situated over on the Surf course The 'Judge' would've had another dont cum f in Monday in his letter box Maybe the useless Ruakaka locals could build a f in winning post after all these years?? Then he wouldn't have a blind freddy leg to stand on All he has to go on is a bit of red paint for a sighter #ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted 12 hours ago Author Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) Seriously, what a bunch of f'in AMATEURS Clearly, on Trackside the LIVE Judge's photo linx was showing a margin to MIDNIGHT EDITION over YALDI Then without explanation the 'Judge' announces a deadheat!! WTF?? Post race, after fuming punters bombarded Oatham with a please f'in explain, the full truth finally comes out "In post-race Trackside coverage, the photo finish footage shown included coverage from the inside camera which was not correctly aligned. The result of the race was judged off the outside camera which is located in a permanent mount inside the Judge’s box. Steward’s concerns regarding the inside camera not being correctly aligned were raised with Club Officials for follow up." Does this mean the f up at Pukekohe a few weeks ago where the "inside camera had a bent leg and couldn't be used" was STILL being used?? THE Premier 'club' at HQ hasn't got the inside camera aligned?? FFS!!! Then to rub even more salt into the festering wound the 'judge' sends this fake result and time to NZTR' 'results page 1 $6.20 57.0 57.0 NOSE 1.24.81 Andrew Forsman 5 $50.50 57.0 57.0 .1L 1 1/4 LEN 1.24.82 Bruce Wallbank According to this FAKE NEWS YALDI has beaten MIDNIGHT EDITION by a nose in 1.24.81 with ME's time 1.24.82 When the ACTUAL result was a deadheat Someone should tell the 'judge' when a deadheat occurs and the result of the inquiry reverses such The f'in time and margins don't change What a disgraceful bunch of Amateurs we have in 'control' Edited 12 hours ago by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Well Thomarse…. If you looked at photo finish I thought it showed Yaldy had a margin? But who cares, won on protest so worry about what ya having for breakie tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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