Has South Island become a dumping ground for 'poor' North horses ?

[TAB For Ever]

Last Mondays Kurow meeting had 10 races and 7 were won by ex-Northern horses.

Ive been noticing all year that the numbers are going up and this explains why some meetings have bloated nominations particularly in maiden and r65  grtades !

Obviously it has been noticed that many stakes are the same as in the North ,training and feeding costs are less and the horses considered more limited.

Ive had a couple of my syndicate horses moved , a couple have run very poorly proving that a very slow horse is slow whatever the company it in !

7 winners from 10 is quite compelling !

[Huey]

Become???

[curious]

7 hours ago, Huey said:

Become???

What?

[curious]

8 hours ago, TAB For Ever said:

Last Mondays Kurow meeting had 10 races and 7 were won by ex-Northern horses.

Ive been noticing all year that the numbers are going up and this explains why some meetings have bloated nominations particularly in maiden and r65  grtades !

Obviously it has been noticed that many stakes are the same as in the North ,training and feeding costs are less and the horses considered more limited.

Ive had a couple of my syndicate horses moved , a couple have run very poorly proving that a very slow horse is slow whatever the company it in !

7 winners from 10 is quite compelling !

Do you think it's actually any easier to win a mdn or rating band race in the SI or is that a myth?

[Doomed]

I agree totally with TAB. I think its brilliant that horses are able to remain competitive and be placed where they have more chance of winning. It does seem to be a win, win situation all round. 

The only problem currently is NZTR who generally refuse to split fields in the South to accommodate good numbers while happily running 4 and 5 horse fields in the CD, and elsewhere. Today at Omoto for instance, 6 ballots out of one race all scratched, and others would have been eliminated. 

It isn't always a one way street of course. Many horses get their confidence back in the South and are then able to venture back north and be competitive. Just yesterday Talisker was favourite in the Group 3 at Trentham and ran ok. He has never won a race in the NI. All of his wins have come in the SI. Likewise, Perfect Scenario has only won 4 times in the NI and 7 times in the SI.

Of all clubs Trentham is the one that desperately needs SI horses, and jockeys, to create decent fields and racing. As someone mentioned, the SI has a great record in the Telegraph but no entrants this year so only a small field of about 10 I think despite the big stake.

The movement of horses has always been a thing, but seems to be exploding with the Aussies importing hundreds of British horses and now HK and Singapore horses coming to NZ. The influx of northern horses to the SI is a good thing, as TAB suggests, it just needs NZTR to catch up now.

[Freda]

In reality, it is certainly more noticeable - Gavelhouse has made a huge difference in that direction - but I recall sitting in a trainers' meeting years ago and discussing the merits, or otherwise, of accepting second-hand horses to train.

But as Doomed has stated, many gain confidence from a different regime, and can take that improved form onwards.

[Shad]

6 hours ago, Freda said:

In reality, it is certainly more noticeable - Gavelhouse has made a huge difference in that direction - but I recall sitting in a trainers' meeting years ago and discussing the merits, or otherwise, of accepting second-hand horses to train.

But as Doomed has stated, many gain confidence from a different regime, and can take that improved form onwards.

They say change as good as a holiday, and I'm sure there worse places they could end up, the clubs be grateful of some numbers to fill their fields.

[Special Agent]

As mentioned, this is definitely not a new concept.  Some horses just click in a new environment.  Good luck to everyone who gives a north island cast off a go, I hope you pick up a heap of money and enjoy the ride.

These horses get a second chance in this world of finding them all a home.  It's a bit of a bugger though that the extra avenue of jumps racing is no longer available in the south.