aquaman Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago When I first got involved with training, breeding, rearing, and racing Greyhounds the year was 1985, there was 1 suit along with one secretary to run the entire Greyhound industry. No Chairman, no board of Directors, no racing Manager, and no CEO. Full tote racing had been in existence about 7/8 yrs and there was about 100 meetings a year. Everything was done efficiently with very few problems. When I finished in 2017 the NZGRA had grown to 17 full time suits. CEO, Phil Holden. Head of Racing, Greg Kerr. Head of Welfare, Mairi Stewart. Head of Finance and Administration. Bridget Ng~Wai Head of Marketing and Communications, Katherine O'Connor. Special Projects, Stuart Cashen.tant Assistant Racing Manager, Roger Moore Racing Administrator Officer, Matt Claridge Registrar and Administration Officer, Jo Finlay Office Manager/Executive to CEO Board Chairman, Craig Rendle Directors, Mauro Barsi Graeme Calverly David Emerson Sean Hannan Dave MacAuley Trevor Taylor All members of the board are paid members with expenses. The above list was August 2017, goodness knows what it is today. Now with all that man women power on the payroll, we now find their data base for tracking dogs are full of 30 year plus old dogs that have long dropped of the perch. F#ken brilliant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 11 minutes ago, aquaman said: Now with all that man women power on the payroll, we now find their data base for tracking dogs are full of 30 year plus old dogs that have long dropped of the perch. F#ken brilliant. FFS you are as bad as @Yankiwi !! I think this is least of Greyhound Racing problems not that it's actually a problem. The Thoroughbred online database is exactly the same. They keep the information online for breeding and performance tracking purposes. For example I know of a horse that went to the knackers yard about 38 years ago. Probably fed a few Greyhounds. The NZTR database has it as being 47 years old. Tracking horses from the service to the grave is a complete and utter waste of time. Just as it is for Greyhounds done to appease a bunch of woke muppets who say they actually care. Which I doubt they do care. Instead of using a slug gun to shoot yourselves in the feet why not be done with it and use an elephant gun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: FFS you are as bad as @Yankiwi !! I think this is least of Greyhound Racing problems not that it's actually a problem. The Thoroughbred online database is exactly the same. They keep the information online for breeding and performance tracking purposes. For example I know of a horse that went to the knackers yard about 38 years ago. Probably fed a few Greyhounds. The NZTR database has it as being 47 years old. Tracking horses from the service to the grave is a complete and utter waste of time. Just as it is for Greyhounds done to appease a bunch of woke muppets who say they actually care. Which I doubt they do care. Instead of using a slug gun to shoot yourselves in the feet why not be done with it and use an elephant gun!! Im sure you would get fustrated to if they call you 3x a year about a dog thats raced in 1995 once every 8 mths. One of my mates who no longer trains gets ph calls about the same 6 dogs from GRNZ every year and every year, its the same answer. I agree its probably not a high priority but im sure the above happens to others too. Truth is the historical data prior to 2019 probably isnt great because there was no real oversight and the majority of trainers did not tell GRNZ where there dogs went post retirement. I do think the above situation is funny though. I think the real concern here is these registered dogs are still included in GRNZ official numbers for the current years which probably makes the numbers look even worse. Edited 8 hours ago by BitofaLegend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago I imagine the IT systems at GRNZ are as archaic as the ones at NZTR and probably HRNZ as well. At least GRNZ didn't waste over $2m trying to put a new system in like NZTR did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: FFS you are as bad as @Yankiwi !! No-one is as bad as @Yankiwi I can't believe how he states facts that are out in plain sight. How dare he? It's one thing to have a dead dog in the database. There is understandable reason for that. It's another thing to have it in a database long after it is dead, with a current trainer & training location associated with the dead dog, which still has an owner. If that registered trainer still has a trainer's license, it's likely they could still nominate it to race. However, it would make it very difficult for the RIB to check the ear tattoos to identify the dead dog for check-in purposes, unless it had been mounted by a taxidermist. However, that is pure speculation on my part. I don't claim to know how long a tattoo remains legible on a dried dog ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Here we go another one of @Yankiwi 's fantasy conspiracies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: At least GRNZ didn't waste over $2m trying to put a new system in like NZTR did. GRNZ spent their $2m on a straight track in Wanganui, that trainers are not nominating for. Since the first race meet started there (non-tote & tote) on 12 June 2024 or 7 months ago, they have had a total of 1013 starters to run in a race. To put that in perspective, 1064 starters have run at Addington between 20 Dec 2024 & 10 Jan 2025 or about 3 weeks. The straight track maximum number of starters for a race meet is 84. The Addington track average per race meet over those 3 weeks is 106, with 91 starters being the minimum. GRNZ built the straight track away from the area of the country with by far the largest population of dogs. Is GRNZ devastated by that reality too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: GRNZ spent their $2m on a straight track in Wanganui, that trainers are not nominating for. Since the first race meet started there (non-tote & tote) on 12 June 2024 or 7 months ago, they have had a total of 1013 starters to run in a race. To put that in perspective, 1064 starters have run at Addington between 20 Dec 2024 & 10 Jan 2025 or about 3 weeks. The straight track maximum number of starters for a race meet is 84. The Addington track average per race meet over those 3 weeks is 106, with 91 starters being the minimum. GRNZ built the straight track away from the area of the country with by far the largest population of dogs. Is GRNZ devastated by that reality too? You are being selective with statistics again!!! The industry doesn't need you or your BS. Wanganui has had two more meetings December 2024 than it did in December 2023. You are once again being selective in your comparisons to justify your warped agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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