Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 02:11 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:11 AM I guess when money is involved you sell your soul to the devil...or as Wightman calls them the OBC! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 02:19 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 02:19 AM Note the change of colours too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted yesterday at 02:30 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:30 AM 9 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Note the change of colours too. I was just going to ask! It would be interesting to note the value of these top fillies that have been sold over the last couple of seasons? it seem all the top one now have such a high value that sell all or a % makes sense? ps, in spite of ownership, I have been a fan of the filly from the first second I saw her! how far can she go? both in distance and class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 02:51 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 02:51 AM Well she has been racing since September albeit one race a month with two in February. Contrary to some naysayers that Slot field has a fair bit of class in it and it is the type of race where there are no prisoners. Essentially there is no where to hide. Plus if she doesn't get to the front the track might trip her up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 02:54 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 02:54 AM 21 minutes ago, Murray Fish said: I have been a fan of the filly from the first second I saw her! You didn't watch her first two races then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted yesterday at 03:14 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:14 AM Cambridge Stud Purchase Interest in Star Filly Pivotal Ten Media Release - Sunday March 2 Cambridge Stud principals Brendan and Jo Lindsay have announced the acquisition of a 50% stake in exciting three-year-old filly Pivotal Ten from her owner, Colin Wightman. The daughter of Ten Sovereigns will carry the stud’s black and gold colours in next Saturday’s $3.5m NZB Kiwi at Ellerslie. Pivotal Ten is a triple SW and has won five races in succession - Race Images “Jo and I are thrilled to be involved with Pivotal Ten,” Brendan Lindsay said. “Like many people we were very taken by the record she has developed, particularly her win in the Southland Guineas.” Pivotal Ten has strung together five consecutive wins for trainer Samantha Wynne. In her most recent victory, she posted an impressive 8.8-length margin in the Listed Southland Guineas on February 12. Wightman is keen to see his star southern filly take on her northern rivals and hopes the partnership will benefit Pivotal Ten’s future on the racetrack and beyond. “In discussion with Brendan, I was convinced that the partnership was good for the filly’s future as both a racehorse and broodmare given the international pedigree she has,” Wightman said. “I am pleased to be associated with owners who are as passionate about racing as I am. All we need now is the luck of the Irish.” Pivotal Ten, who will run in the Selangor Turf Club’s Kiwi slot, joins fellow Lindsay runner First Dance in the showpiece event on Barfoot & Thompson Champions Day. “The inaugural running of the NZB Kiwi is going to be part of a historic day for New Zealand racing and we are incredibly excited to have two runners representing us in the Kiwi,” Lindsay concluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted yesterday at 03:15 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:15 AM 18 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: You didn't watch her first two races then? no, I was on course for that Wingatui win, she presented so well! she looked to be really enjoying herself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM 2 minutes ago, curious said: the acquisition of a 50% stake $500000? more or less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted yesterday at 03:27 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:27 AM I'd say more. I heard that had already been turned down for 50% before the last win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted yesterday at 03:56 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:56 AM Without knowing Colin's financial situation, you'd have to imagine a 50% share is worth well more than $500k. But... how many SI-trained runners have over $1m in stake money currently? I'm surprised he gave up half a horse, but as I said, no idea of his financials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 04:10 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 04:10 AM 9 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: Without knowing Colin's financial situation, you'd have to imagine a 50% share is worth well more than $500k. But... how many SI-trained runners have over $1m in stake money currently? I'm surprised he gave up half a horse, but as I said, no idea of his financials. No brainer really. If the horse is anywhere near as good as some are saying then it won't be racing in the South Island again so it makes sense to sell to someone that is going to facilitate the horse getting the best opportunities here and in OZ. If it isn't up to the top level then he still wins for obvious reasons. It appears the irony of the outcome passes some by - for most of the last 3 months Wightman has been on FB slaying the very people he has sold half to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted yesterday at 04:32 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:32 AM Everyone is a hypocrite when the money comes calling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM 19 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: slaying the very people he has sold half to. Colons bane with the "OBC" and the Whales! goes way back to went he rode into the Waikato and got to 'play' with the then OBC and Wha... lol, or perhaps C got played! 23 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: If it isn't up to the top level then he still wins for obvious reasons. yip 24 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: facilitate the horse getting the best opportunities here and in OZ. via Waller? Team OZ in Au? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM Also - this is from Scoobysnacks "I see Chief Stipe AKA Canterbury Man following Channel X belatedly with the news and then also has to take a pot shot at her owner..or part owner now" I find this comment a bit rich considering he took a pot-shot at the owners of Times Ticking this week (and allowed a subsequent post from Pegasus which was disgusting behaviour). Did I mention hypocrite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM 4 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: Everyone is a hypocrite when the money comes calling. how much was your pri$e!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 04:41 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 04:41 AM 4 minutes ago, Murray Fish said: via Waller? Team OZ in Au? Probably and I'm sure Lindsay would facilitate that conversation better than the other owner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 04:44 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 04:44 AM 4 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: I find this comment a bit rich considering he took a pot-shot at the owners of Times Ticking this week (and allowed a subsequent post from Pegasus which was disgusting behaviour). Did I mention hypocrite? I didn't think I took a "pot-shot" at Wightman but then some are more sensitive than others. I was just highlighting the irony with a tad sarcasm! Hell from what I've heard if you posted a quarter of what Wightman has been writing on FB on the other channel you'd be gone...or would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Probably and I'm sure Lindsay would facilitate that conversation better than the other owner! I'm not so sure about that. The man's not stupid and this seems like a sensible move for the horse, owner and trainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 04:51 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 04:51 AM 1 minute ago, curious said: I'm not so sure about that. The man's not stupid and this seems like a sensible move for the horse, owner and trainer. I don't disagree it isn't a sensible move. However in terms of stupidity slagging off all and sundry bordering on slander doesn't seem that bright to me. But in this game people flip flop when it suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted yesterday at 04:59 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:59 AM Erhhmm... what happened to this "loyalty" everyone was harping on about re: Wightman and Wynne? She won't have the horse for very much longer. How's that for loyalty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted yesterday at 05:01 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:01 AM It's a story and a half that's for sure, with at least one chapter to come. I assume that in the photo it is Colin Wightman leading the filly in. I don't know what I expected him to look like but, that wasn't it. He goes back to the days of Mandy Brown's filly so, I thought he'd at least look older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted yesterday at 05:06 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:06 AM 3 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: Erhhmm... what happened to this "loyalty" everyone was harping on about re: Wightman and Wynne? She won't have the horse for very much longer. How's that for loyalty? Safely through the race the horse is likely to go to Chris Waller. This happens a lot in racing. I'd say Sam Wynne will be thankful for her part of it so far and look forward to the next ones she'll train for Colin Wightman. What a start to anyone's training career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 05:07 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 05:07 AM 5 minutes ago, Special Agent said: It's a story and a half that's for sure, with at least one chapter to come. I assume that in the photo it is Colin Wightman leading the filly in. I don't know what I expected him to look like but, that wasn't it. He goes back to the days of Mandy Brown's filly so, I thought he'd at least look older. Not him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted yesterday at 05:07 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:07 AM Sam will also be the recipient of the trainer's percentage for the half share sale. Nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted yesterday at 05:09 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:09 AM 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Not him. Thanks. I'll google him and see if I can find a photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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