How much is that black type Filly worth?

[Murray Fish]

Any estimates?

Sathito rated 78

Pivotal Ten rated 78

Lecia Lucy rated 77  (more for today?)

 

 

Sethito

[Chief Stipe]

8 minutes ago, Murray Fish said:

Any estimates?

Sathito rated 78

Pivotal Ten rated 78

Lecia Lucy rated 77  (more for today?)

 

 

Sethito

Just shows you how screwed the ratings are for age group horses.  Leica Lucy rated 77 after winning 2 Group 3's and 1 Group 2.

[Murray Fish]

6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Leica Lucy rated 77

that was a cut and paste from todays results at loveracing.  how long does it take to update a rating? not something I follow! 

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Murray Fish said:

that was a cut and paste from todays results at loveracing.  how long does it take to update a rating? not something I follow! 

The point I was making was she had that rating BEFORE today's Group 2 win i.e. are 3 Group wins in a row.

[Murray Fish]

11 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

The point I was making was she had that rating BEFORE today's Group 2 win i.e. are 3 Group wins in a row.

and she had won way more $$$

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, Murray Fish said:

and she had won way more $$$

I don't consider $'s a factor in determining a rating.

[curious]

9 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I don't consider $'s a factor in determining a rating.

Why not? The handicapper can.

[SLB2.0]

Lucy $1.50 to win the Oaks - surely the shortest price in recent history?

$7.50 to win the Australian Oaks, but she'll be competing against Treasurethe Moment, Aeliana, and many more top staying types.

[Chief Stipe]

17 minutes ago, curious said:

Why not? The handicapper can.

Seriously what is the correlation between Stakes won and the class of the race in NZ now?

[curious]

23 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Seriously what is the correlation between Stakes won and the class of the race in NZ now?

Not necessarily but the handicapper still has discretion to consider it.

• A winning performance will usually attract a weight and /or ratings
increase. Any increase is at the Handicapper’s discretion and is based on
the Handicappers assessment of the horses performance in the race,
taking into account factors which include: previous form and performance,
strength of the opposition, authority and merit of the win, track conditions,
position in running, Stipendiary Stewards reports, having regard to the
weight carried, winning margin and time for the race, stake level of the
race, as well as any other relevant factor.

 

[Chief Stipe]

48 minutes ago, curious said:

Not necessarily but the handicapper still has discretion to consider it.

There either is a correlation or there isn't.  

[curious]

21 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

There either is a correlation or there isn't.  

Definitely is a correlation, just not a linear one. A 3.5 million dollar race will always attract a stronger field than an 18k maiden.

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, curious said:

Definitely is a correlation, just not a linear one. A 3.5 million dollar race will always attract a stronger field than an 18k maiden.

You're splitting hairs @curious.  I might have a @Scooby3051 moment and moderate you!  Just Joking!

When was the last $3.5 million dollar maiden race?   Sure there has been a Cox Plate won by a maiden (Shamus Award) but the Cox Plate isn't a maiden.

[Murray Fish]

3 hours ago, SLB2.0 said:

Lucy $1.50 to win the Oaks - surely the shortest price in recent history?

$7.50 to win the Australian Oaks

My rating system is different to most!!!  I go on! a WOW scale!  If 'my sporting eye'  likes a horse! Perhaps I in 300? Then I try to get to know that horse? Then hope I can line it up in a race sometime!  This Filly very much has that X factor! Normally I'm not really a fan of betting  in those premarkets.  But she really does seem to have it still all in front of her! 
ps, there is one market I bet into re 'a long way out', MLB, I have parlay a decent bet on Dogger$ to double up! lol, I've been offered a small take out at a profit before a pitch has been thrown!!!