Murray Fish Posted yesterday at 07:18 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:18 AM Any estimates? Sathito rated 78 Pivotal Ten rated 78 Lecia Lucy rated 77 (more for today?) Sethito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 07:28 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:28 AM 8 minutes ago, Murray Fish said: Any estimates? Sathito rated 78 Pivotal Ten rated 78 Lecia Lucy rated 77 (more for today?) Sethito Just shows you how screwed the ratings are for age group horses. Leica Lucy rated 77 after winning 2 Group 3's and 1 Group 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted yesterday at 07:37 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 07:37 AM 6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Leica Lucy rated 77 that was a cut and paste from todays results at loveracing. how long does it take to update a rating? not something I follow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 09:16 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:16 AM 1 hour ago, Murray Fish said: that was a cut and paste from todays results at loveracing. how long does it take to update a rating? not something I follow! The point I was making was she had that rating BEFORE today's Group 2 win i.e. are 3 Group wins in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted 13 hours ago Author Share Posted 13 hours ago 11 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: The point I was making was she had that rating BEFORE today's Group 2 win i.e. are 3 Group wins in a row. and she had won way more $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Murray Fish said: and she had won way more $$$ I don't consider $'s a factor in determining a rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I don't consider $'s a factor in determining a rating. Why not? The handicapper can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Lucy $1.50 to win the Oaks - surely the shortest price in recent history? $7.50 to win the Australian Oaks, but she'll be competing against Treasurethe Moment, Aeliana, and many more top staying types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 17 minutes ago, curious said: Why not? The handicapper can. Seriously what is the correlation between Stakes won and the class of the race in NZ now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Seriously what is the correlation between Stakes won and the class of the race in NZ now? Not necessarily but the handicapper still has discretion to consider it. • A winning performance will usually attract a weight and /or ratings increase. Any increase is at the Handicapper’s discretion and is based on the Handicappers assessment of the horses performance in the race, taking into account factors which include: previous form and performance, strength of the opposition, authority and merit of the win, track conditions, position in running, Stipendiary Stewards reports, having regard to the weight carried, winning margin and time for the race, stake level of the race, as well as any other relevant factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 48 minutes ago, curious said: Not necessarily but the handicapper still has discretion to consider it. There either is a correlation or there isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: There either is a correlation or there isn't. Definitely is a correlation, just not a linear one. A 3.5 million dollar race will always attract a stronger field than an 18k maiden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, curious said: Definitely is a correlation, just not a linear one. A 3.5 million dollar race will always attract a stronger field than an 18k maiden. You're splitting hairs @curious. I might have a @Scooby3051 moment and moderate you! Just Joking! When was the last $3.5 million dollar maiden race? Sure there has been a Cox Plate won by a maiden (Shamus Award) but the Cox Plate isn't a maiden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, SLB2.0 said: Lucy $1.50 to win the Oaks - surely the shortest price in recent history? $7.50 to win the Australian Oaks My rating system is different to most!!! I go on! a WOW scale! If 'my sporting eye' likes a horse! Perhaps I in 300? Then I try to get to know that horse? Then hope I can line it up in a race sometime! This Filly very much has that X factor! Normally I'm not really a fan of betting in those premarkets. But she really does seem to have it still all in front of her! ps, there is one market I bet into re 'a long way out', MLB, I have parlay a decent bet on Dogger$ to double up! lol, I've been offered a small take out at a profit before a pitch has been thrown!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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