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Taupo Trials Abandoned 25 March 2025 due to incident in heat 2.


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2 hours ago, Freda said:

Tell Winston.

Winston heard it all before.......that's why he generously ,to support racing which he loves , built 3 x Synthetic tracks.

All the career racing folk told him racing was going backwards cos of the lack of reliable ,safe ,consistent surfaces so he gave them 3 .

What the trainers didn't tell him that was they were more concerned with getting their horses to run a good trial so they could SELL at a healthy profit . And to do that they needed turf tracks.

The negativity from the career racing folk was so huge that most in the racing community ,especially punters , were completely put off the Synthetic ...before it even started ...perception is reality !

I made sure I attended the first synthetic meeting and saw/heard for myself ......even a key worker/participant on duty said to me  "I was led to believe it would be carnage here , horses running on this track ".

Gotta laugh now when a top trainer who only supports synthetic when 'hard up for options' states after a poor turf trial , 'its good the synthetic circuit about to start , keep the horse with me and we'll do well ,the horse needs a firmer consistent surface . LOL

Interesting every week on Trackside watching all the racing communities in Aussie running on their clay ,sand , dirt tracks. Noticed Alice Springs and Pingrup [?] on weekend and recently the Saudi Cup ,richest race in world on all weather surface LOL. THen there is USA,Japan ,Korea and MOST countries in the world !

NZ trainers should support their industry ......they let Jumping slip .....just blame others ! 

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25 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said:

What the trainers didn't tell him that was they were more concerned with getting their horses to run a good trial so they could SELL at a healthy profit . And to do that they needed turf tracks.

If that's the case (which it isn't) how do you explain Te Akau entering 33 horses to trial at Taupo today when they don't sell their horses until they have finished racing?

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49 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said:

What the trainers didn't tell him that was they were more concerned with getting their horses to run a good trial so they could SELL at a healthy profit . And to do that they needed turf tracks.

Rubbish. Most horses trialing on turf are there to educate and condition them for racing on turf which is the majority of our racing.

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55 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said:

Winston heard it all before.......that's why he generously ,to support racing which he loves , built 3 x Synthetic tracks.

All the career racing folk told him racing was going backwards cos of the lack of reliable ,safe ,consistent surfaces so he gave them 3 .

Yeahh right. Gave them 3 that to date have proved anything but reliable, safe and consistent.

If you are right, then why did NZTR instigate a review of their safety after initial data brought that into question? And why have NZTR not yet released that report by international experts? I have been a big supporter of the poly tracks because they have proven safe and reliable elsewhere and indeed, won a few races on them, but for one won't be racing on them again until I'm convinced they are as safe and properly maintained as possible. Currently, there is no sign of that reassurance.

There are plenty of grass tracks available (some largely idle) that could be conducting grass trials on safer surfaces, to prepare horses for grass racing.

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5 hours ago, Wingman said:

The folly of ditching Te Teko starting to bite!

Been saying it for years ,NZ industry in such a state every single track is needed. The Messara Report was/is a scam!

Top it all off Peter's wants to sell up the clubs that aren't in the club. The industry will never learn.

 

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Te Teko was a backstop. When they decided under I think Saundry's time as NZTR CEO, ten tracks were told they were for the chop. Those people in making that decision said they could not justify the cost to maintain them but little thought went into who/when picks up the slack. Now look where we are,,,what more could possibly go wrong!!

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20 minutes ago, Wingman said:

Te Teko was a backstop. When they decided under I think Saundry's time as NZTR CEO, ten tracks were told they were for the chop. Those people in making that decision said they could not justify the cost to maintain them but little thought went into who/when picks up the slack. Now look where we are,,,what more could possibly go wrong!!

Yes.    Saundry indeed.

I was at an NZTR roadshow when predecessor Purcell was at the helm...and I can definitely recall him saying that he was NOT in favour of forcing tracks to close, but that NZTR would work in support with any that chose to race elsewhere. 

He had a lot of baggage, that fellow, but on this matter I thought he seemed very reasonable.

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39 minutes ago, Wingman said:

Te Teko was a backstop. When they decided under I think Saundry's time as NZTR CEO, ten tracks were told they were for the chop. Those people in making that decision said they could not justify the cost to maintain them but little thought went into who/when picks up the slack. Now look where we are,,,what more could possibly go wrong!!

What were the costs to run these tracks? No one could ever give me an answer.

The real reason was to sell them up ,absolutely cost the industry nothing or next to nothing to operate.

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Todays issue is a result of tracks being over used. Had Te Teko still been available, there would have been a number of trial meetings each year that would have taken place at Te Teko, not Taupo. Last time I was there was when  I had a horse racing there over ten years ago and to the best of my knowledge did not used to be problematic.

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