SLB2.0 Posted Sunday at 07:28 AM Share Posted Sunday at 07:28 AM You know you've lost a debate when you start using clown emojis and resort to personal attacks. It's classic kindergarten debating style, and it's laughable. Provide evidence or discussion as to why you disagree with Chief, and then go about your day. You have Scooby saying Chief is negative, yet he posts negative information about tracks (that aren't Trentham or Ellerslie) and overrated jockeys, so isn't that pot kettle black stuff? And yeah, I'm not expecting a formulated reply, because your kind are not capable. Any toys left in that cot of yours? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Sunday at 07:30 AM Share Posted Sunday at 07:30 AM 5 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: But, without Chief's posts over there, the site is just about dead anyway. What posts? Apparently I have multiple identities over there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted Sunday at 07:31 AM Share Posted Sunday at 07:31 AM 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Good luck for what? LOL @SLB2.0 and I have disagreed about more things than we have agreed on. My spells are crap obviously! Yeeeeahh.... we pretty much disagreed on everything, and 80% of the time we still do. Then I left this site, and it's only recently that I've come back to call out the hypocrisy from Scooby. The difference is we don't call each other names when we disagree. We keep debating until a concession is made. I made a post about what I thought was a bad ride on Saturday. I got that wrong, and happy to admit it. You don't see that happening at the cesspit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Sunday at 07:34 AM Share Posted Sunday at 07:34 AM 3 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: yet he posts negative information about tracks (that aren't Trentham or Ellerslie) and overrated jockeys, so isn't that pot kettle black stuff? Yep and the only difference is the Comic Dog isn't basing his opinion on any analysis but on trying to keep onside with a group of blind OBC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted Sunday at 09:26 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:26 AM 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Yep. Not a horse trained at Trentham. Does Denis not train there now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted Sunday at 09:59 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:59 AM Haha he is a lowlife and posts private messages between to people...but I am sure you would like him as birds of a feather and all that stuff...yes he has opinions but unless you agree with them he is also like you just argues for the sake of it...Does he want a medal for helping Morty???Not sure what that has to do with anything...and from my point of view and a few others in here he is no loss....and neither will you be. Hmmm... I guess private messages over there are not actually private? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted Sunday at 10:13 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:13 AM All a bit pathetic. With all the problems of the world we have children name calling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted Sunday at 10:24 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:24 AM 23 minutes ago, curious said: Haha he is a lowlife and posts private messages between to people...but I am sure you would like him as birds of a feather and all that stuff...yes he has opinions but unless you agree with them he is also like you just argues for the sake of it...Does he want a medal for helping Morty???Not sure what that has to do with anything...and from my point of view and a few others in here he is no loss....and neither will you be. Hmmm... I guess private messages over there are not actually private? I've tried to tell everyone that he's scum. No message is safe over there, no account is safe. He'll let anyone use your account to make posts under your name. He is a disgrace, and why anyone in the industry feels safe posting there is beyond me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Beau Posted Sunday at 11:22 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:22 AM 9 hours ago, SLB2.0 said: It's a joke indeed - and old Scooby on the other channel seems to think the track played well after being hammered. Three meetings in 3 months... would you call that being hammered? Obviously you can’t count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Beau Posted Sunday at 11:26 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:26 AM 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Yep. Not a horse trained at Trentham. Nor Ellerslie. What’s your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Beau Posted Sunday at 11:29 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:29 AM 13 hours ago, Trojan said: The track is appalling. Soft 5 at the start of the day and just over 5mins after the first race upgraded to a G4. Yet it was faster than that wasn't it. The 3yr olds in Race 2 equal the NZ record for 1200m going 1:06.51. Yeah right! Oh that's right the electronic timing is still stuffed someone was timing the race off the TV in the only stand left on the course. I was on Facebook a few hours ago and a lady on there has a very different opinion of Trentham to you. The fact is, she was there and you weren’t so do do you know anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted Sunday at 05:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:39 PM 10 hours ago, Wingman said: I do not know how, yet the reality is yesterday they produced an improved decent racetrack. Now stop being unnecessarily argumentative and annoying or you will be sent to the naughty boys room. I also thought the track played well, certainly better than the way tracks have been playing in all those abandonments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Sunday at 06:49 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:49 PM 7 hours ago, Dark Beau said: Nor Ellerslie. What’s your point? Well Ellerslie does have a training facility closer than Trentham but I made the same point about Ellerlsie. The major tracks in OZ operate a training facility. However the issue with Trentham is the number of other factors that are against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted Sunday at 06:54 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 06:54 PM 7 hours ago, Dark Beau said: I was on Facebook a few hours ago and a lady on there has a very different opinion of Trentham to you. The fact is, she was there and you weren’t so do do you know anything? Been there three times this season. Obviously your lady is blind Freddy. How did she get on with her Binocs peering through people's washing lines trying to get a glimpse of the horses up the chute? Did she walk the track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted Sunday at 07:01 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 07:01 PM 1 hour ago, Huey said: I also thought the track played well, certainly better than the way tracks have been playing in all those abandonments. Perhaps it did in your opinion but I disagree. But why did the Stipes amd NZTR turn a blind eye to Trentham not preparing a track according to policy? Once again the conned everyone by saying the track was a Soft 5 on raceday morning when it was a Good 3 at least. Then the Stipes retrospectively upgrade to a Good 4 just before they equal the world for 1200m. Hand tined of course. I bet there are a few trainers with sore horses today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted Sunday at 08:14 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:14 PM Oh @Scooby3051 you want to talk about defamation? Do you really want to go there? I suggest you pipe down 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Sunday at 08:40 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:40 PM 25 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: Oh @Scooby3051 you want to talk about defamation? Do you really want to go there? I suggest you pipe down 🤡 I wouldn't worry the best defamation defence is proving what was said was true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted Sunday at 11:11 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:11 PM 12 hours ago, SLB2.0 said: I've tried to tell everyone that he's scum. No message is safe over there, no account is safe. He'll let anyone use your account to make posts under your name. He is a disgrace, and why anyone in the industry feels safe posting there is beyond me. It does seem a bit two faced to randomly lambast me for posting a PM from him on TRP, if he is reading other peoples' PMs himself. At least I now know that is what upset him and why he banned me, then censored my posts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 04:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:48 AM 5 hours ago, curious said: It does seem a bit two faced to randomly lambast me for posting a PM from him on TRP, if he is reading other peoples' PMs himself. At least I now know that is what upset him and why he banned me, then censored my posts. Well @curious I can honestly say I've never seen you abuse anyone or stoop to name calling. Even on issues that you are passionate about it is hard to make you angry. The issue appears to be an insecurity about looking silly when some point out the facts in a cogent manner. Easier to delete and name calling than struggle to reply in an intelligent way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted yesterday at 05:27 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:27 AM I bet Scooby can't list one non-factual statement Canterbury Man has made in the Alabama thread. It's because there isn't one. Unsure why they're so offended by facts? Are these jerks all just gathered around in a circle? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Beau Posted yesterday at 05:28 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:28 AM 23 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: But how did they do it? In my opinion it was no different to the previous week except most of the horses were a big step up in class. A stupid response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 06:10 AM Share Posted yesterday at 06:10 AM 41 minutes ago, Dark Beau said: A stupid response. Why is it stupid? Or can't you explain why you said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbrew Posted yesterday at 09:49 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:49 AM Couple of things here, the preparation of a track is a NZTR directive, and as the stipes work for RIB they have no obligation whatsoever to make sure that tracks are presented on the morning of the races as per NZTR directives (they are there to ensure license holders adhere to the rules). Given this NZTR has a directive which they have no way of enforcing. I have been a reader of the racing forums for a number of years, while i have only been a small time owner, breeder and punter, when i took the plunge to become a contributor to racing forums early this year, BOAY welcomed me with open arms, the other site referred to in this forum actually made it very difficult to join or contribute. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 9 hours ago, westbrew said: Couple of things here, the preparation of a track is a NZTR directive, and as the stipes work for RIB they have no obligation whatsoever to make sure that tracks are presented on the morning of the races as per NZTR directives (they are there to ensure license holders adhere to the rules). Given this NZTR has a directive which they have no way of enforcing. My understanding is that the RIB take over control of the course on raceday. They are the rules enforcer AND in my opinion given their raceday authority the Quality Control for NZTR. For example they should be on course early to ensure all taceday protocols are being and have been met. For example verifying that the track rating as notified is accurate and supervise the horses that are required to gallop in the morning. It is a nonsense that a Soft 5 is declared by Club personnel, o checks are done and then retrospectively the track is upgraded to a Good 4 immediately after Race 1. What makes that worse is the RIB's reluctance and or incompetence to not upgrade again or accurately when it is clearly evident the tracks is firmer than a Good 4. Now that is one example but one that impacts trainers who don't want an ultra hard track and punters who are looking for an accurate assessment. The latter now wait until couple of races are run to work it out. No the RIB are the rules enforcer AND the independent quality control for racing. Time they stepped up instead of tuning up 30 minutes before the first in their Italian suits, walking 10 metres of the track and not even bothering to check that the electronic timing or the photo finish is working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago I have a little horse who, despite several attempts on various ratings, cannot perform on rain-affected ground. Much as I don't like scratching and costing owners money, there is just no point in lining up. Recently he found himself in the first race, track rated S6. Ok, I thought, after chatting to the owner, we decided to let him have a chance, he'd been fit and ready fot a good while and going nowhere. Reasoned that race 1 with first crack at the track, not chopped up, he should manage. Came back to scale with mud up to his knees and track immediately downgraded to a H 8. If the RIB had been doing their job as per Chief's description, I wouldn't have put the poor little bugger on the float. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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