Wingman Posted Saturday at 11:01 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:01 AM They must be running over a shorter distance. Horses of the caliber going down the Shute today, do not run the times they are said to have run on a yielding track. The maiden breaks 55 seconds for 1000m, no way! 1200m open in 1.05.13, pull the other leg. R65 1100m in 1.00.45, "tell him he's dreaming'". Hand timing suggests there is no interest in investing into what will be, a soon to be a closed racetrack. The fact that those in charge continue to publish this woeful misinformation speaks volumes for how little they care about those that matter the most, punters. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted Saturday at 04:00 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:00 PM 4 hours ago, Wingman said: They must be running over a shorter distance. Horses of the caliber going down the Shute today, do not run the times they are said to have run on a yielding track. The maiden breaks 55 seconds for 1000m, no way! 1200m open in 1.05.13, pull the other leg. R65 1100m in 1.00.45, "tell him he's dreaming'". Hand timing suggests there is no interest in investing into what will be, a soon to be a closed racetrack. The fact that those in charge continue to publish this woeful misinformation speaks volumes for how little they care about those that matter the most, punters. Hope the starting gates in right place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Saturday at 07:38 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:38 PM 8 hours ago, Wingman said: The maiden breaks 55 seconds for 1000m, no way! 1200m open in 1.05.13, pull the other leg. R65 1100m in 1.00.45, "tell him he's dreaming'". World records on a Soft 5 track. 8 hours ago, Wingman said: Hand timing suggests there is no interest in investing into what will be, a soon to be a closed racetrack. Seems the Insider members haven't been told that or believe it. 8 hours ago, Wingman said: The fact that those in charge continue to publish this woeful misinformation speaks volumes for how little they care about those that matter the most, punters. Very few seem to care at all and the wonder why punters prefer the Australian product. What is interesting thought is why has it taken so long to fix? Is it because as you say it isn't worth investing when the track will be closed? Or NZTR and the WRC don't think accurate timing is important? They'd be better not to publish anything instead of the garbage they do which they change later. Meanwhile the club is patting itself o n the back for a "well presented track"!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted Saturday at 07:53 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:53 PM Is the technology for accurate - and quickly available - timing very expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Saturday at 08:10 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:10 PM 1 hour ago, Freda said: Is the technology for accurate - and quickly available - timing very expensive? Ask Ellerslie. The have race times and full sectionals published online minutes after a race. Harness at Metro locations do too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Saturday at 08:32 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:32 PM It actually wouldn't be too hard to get an accurate time if cameras and track sectionals were accurately marked. A camera at the start and inline with the finish line filming at a high frame rate would enable a computer calculated time to be produced instantly. Many Trackside cameras are not inline with the finish line though. I wonder if BOTH the inside AND outside photo finish cameras are working at Trentham? Wasn't there a drama about that a few meetings ago around a deadheat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted Saturday at 09:08 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:08 PM I wouldn't blame the club if they knew they were goners, issue lies solely with the NZTR clown show ... where they do the easy stuff & ignore the issues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 12:38 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:38 AM 3 hours ago, Huey said: I wouldn't blame the club if they knew they were goners, issue lies solely with the NZTR clown show ... where they do the easy stuff & ignore the issues. Why wouldn't you blame the Club? They're the ones that have neglected the fundamentals of their business and sealed their fate Although no doubt they will get bailed out because - "Trentham is a strategic track". That no one attends and has no horses trained on it and needs as much money spent on it as Ellerslie did! The only thing NZTR hasn't done is set standards or when they do enforce them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Why wouldn't you blame the Club? They're the ones that have neglected the fundamentals of their business and sealed their fate Although no doubt they will get bailed out because - "Trentham is a strategic track". That no one attends and has no horses trained on it and needs as much money spent on it as Ellerslie did! The only thing NZTR hasn't done is set standards or when they do enforce them. New starting gates, old equipment not compatible with them so new equipment has been purchased, waiting for it to arrive in the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Bill said: New starting gates, old equipment not compatible with them so new equipment has been purchased, waiting for it to arrive in the country Give me a break. How long have they had an issue with the electronic timing at Trentham? The descision to replace the gates was made after the debacle in the Thompson Handicap 9 December 2023!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Why wouldn't you blame the Club? They're the ones that have neglected the fundamentals of their business and sealed their fate Although no doubt they will get bailed out because - "Trentham is a strategic track". That no one attends and has no horses trained on it and needs as much money spent on it as Ellerslie did! The only thing NZTR hasn't done is set standards or when they do enforce them. You answered your own question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Huey said: You answered your own question. What can't Clubs aim for their own professional standards? I've been going to Trentham for 25 years - same committee suits and the surrounds suffering the same radioactive decay as Chernobyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: What can't Clubs aim for their own professional standards? I've been going to Trentham for 25 years - same committee suits and the surrounds suffering the same radioactive decay as Chernobyl. Why should they be bothered when they are constantly let down by their own governing body? I don't blame clubs for not worrying about a thing, when we have such a dysfunctional and ineffective organisation like NZTR leading the way. You only have to look at their utterly inadequate handling of abandonments to realise youre being lead by no hopers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Huey said: Why should they be bothered when they are constantly let down by their own governing body? You're kidding me? Since when was the Wellington Racing Club ever "let down by NZTR? 11 minutes ago, Huey said: I don't blame clubs for not worrying about a thing, when we have such a dysfunctional and ineffective organisation like NZTR leading the way. But NZTR don't run the Clubs. So if you owned a restaurant you'd sell shyte unsafe food if there was no health licensing? 12 minutes ago, Huey said: You only have to look at their utterly inadequate handling of abandonments to realise youre being lead by no hopers. So you expect NZTR to manage abandonments or prevent them? The latter lays wholly with the Clubs and their maintenace and management of tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Give me a break. How long have they had an issue with the electronic timing at Trentham? The descision to replace the gates was made after the debacle in the Thompson Handicap 9 December 2023!! Read it on X someone from RACE replying to David Mcarthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Bill said: Read it on X someone from RACE replying to David Mcarthy Sorry if I was shooting the messenger but it is frustrating that there is this she'll be right attitude when we are trying to compete in a competitive market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Sorry if I was shooting the messenger but it is frustrating that there is this she'll be right attitude when we are trying to compete in a competitive market. No worries, but they are fixing it by the looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 9 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Sorry if I was shooting the messenger but it is frustrating that there is this she'll be right attitude when we are trying to compete in a competitive market. Prizemoney is great ... she'll be right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago The only phrase that comes to mind is Amateur Hour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago What does everyone think of NZTR's new CEO so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, Special Agent said: What does everyone think of NZTR's new CEO so far? Who is it again? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 45 minutes ago, Special Agent said: What does everyone think of NZTR's new CEO so far? Looking like a patsy role , nothing changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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