Chief Stipe Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Huey said: No it needs to get away from business cases & worry about how it impacts the training & development of the horse. What's the point if there is no chance of making a profit? 22 minutes ago, Huey said: Too many BS business cases have led to this dead end direction we are heading in at the minute. What business cases? It was clearly evident that NO business case was done for the Awapuni or Riccarton AWT's. If they had done one they'd know that at the current levels of income for the two locations there was no chance of earning enough to maintain them correctly unless there was a substantial increase in the number of resident horses using the facilities. I would suggest that the total lack of business planning and financial modelling has got us into the shyte we see ourselves in now. 25 minutes ago, Huey said: Time racing worried about it's core product - the animal. I agree 100% but if no part of the industry can make enough money from racing thoroughbreds to maintain the tracks that they race on and provide training facilities and stabling that is safe then it is a lost cause. Quote
Wingman Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: If what you label a "cunning plan" is unacceptable then what is YOUR plan to address the fundamental issues? My plan has always been an effective plan. 'Fire the NZTR executive' NZTR press announcement 'There is still a target to return to RACE Awapuni in late August 2025, with a standardised racing programme expected to follow across the upcoming 2025/26 season. However both organisations (That is NZTR and RACE, if this is becoming too complicated for you CS) remain committed to proactive decision-making should the tracks progress warrant any adjustments to this plan'. Which I take to mean they are expecting to totally fuck this up as well. OR/ WHAT FUCKING PLAN? They are incompetent and if you cannot see that CS then you are part of the problem. Then we move onto the announcement on behalf of Hawkes Bay Racing and NZTR where pending approval by NZTR Board (Muppets, my description) partial recambering (Why only partial?, my question) of the bends will take place. And now for final piece of incompetent bullshit. "Not withstanding any unforseen circumstances this significant EXPERT LED investment will allow for a safe and confident return to racing in Hawkes Bay for Spring 2026. YES you have read correctly, not this Spring. (NZTR have been putting this crap out re Hastings track for a decade. Why would any sensible person buy into this fairy tale.) If anyone outside of those who compiled, wrote, or are associated with these announcements, be you breeders, owners or race track officials, believe a word of this nonsense, then you deserve what is coming your way. 3 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Wingman said: My plan has always been an effective plan. 'Fire the NZTR executive' Then what? 1 hour ago, Wingman said: They are incompetent and if you cannot see that CS then you are part of the problem. The only incompetence I can see is a reluctance to once again commit enough funding to fix the fundamental track issues. You WERE part of that problem. 1 hour ago, Wingman said: Then we move onto the announcement on behalf of Hawkes Bay Racing and NZTR where pending approval by NZTR Board (Muppets, my description) partial recambering (Why only partial?, my question) of the bends will take place. Perhaps they have been hijacked by the rabble rouser Colin Wightman (aka @Transparency ) - he is on public record saying there is nothing wrong with the Hastings track that couldn't be fixed in a week! Then you have Jockey's like Kate Hercock saying the problem last September was a lack of irrigation on the track. Are you saying that more or less is needed to be done to the Hastings track? Or are you just intent on scapegoating? 1 hour ago, Wingman said: And now for final piece of incompetent bullshit. "Not withstanding any unforseen circumstances this significant EXPERT LED investment will allow for a safe and confident return to racing in Hawkes Bay for Spring 2026. YES you have read correctly, not this Spring. (NZTR have been putting this crap out re Hastings track for a decade. Why would any sensible person buy into this fairy tale.) NZTR haven't been "putting this crap out for decade". I gather from the tone of you post that you do honestly believe there is a problem with the track. In your opinion what is that problem? I find it hard to work out what camp you sit in other than the one that is angry and intent on blaming anyone they can find. Quote
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