Brodie Posted June 13 Posted June 13 (edited) very interesting that the NZ TAB supposedly accepted a $40k bet on Captains Secret on race 7 at Auckland tonight! Wondering is this actually legit when they have previously been so risk averse and very hard to get much on, and they think that $1k is a big bet. you would wonder who approved it when it was a Telfer horse, and they are going so well? It was $40k @ 3.20 or close to that and someone was in the know! Anyway great to see the NZ TAB accepting such bets and now we can obviously look forward to them allowing all the restricted punters on for amounts more than they have been previously. Edited June 13 by Brodie Quote
Rangatira Posted June 13 Posted June 13 3 hours ago, Brodie said: very interesting that the NZ TAB supposedly accepted a $40k bet on Captains Secret on race 7 at Auckland tonight! Wondering is this actually legit when they have previously been so risk averse and very hard to get much on, and they think that $1k is a big bet. you would wonder who approved it when it was a Telfer horse, and they are going so well? It was $40k @ 3.20 or close to that and someone was in the know! Anyway great to see the NZ TAB accepting such bets and now we can obviously look forward to them allowing all the restricted punters on for amounts more than they have been previously. Was this post bought to us by "the lowest form of wit" ? Quote
Nowornever Posted Saturday at 09:15 PM Posted Saturday at 09:15 PM Pretty easy to work out who placed the bet Quote
Chief Stipe Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM On 13/06/2025 at 9:37 PM, Brodie said: very interesting that the NZ TAB supposedly accepted a $40k bet on Captains Secret on race 7 at Auckland tonight! Wondering is this actually legit when they have previously been so risk averse and very hard to get much on, and they think that $1k is a big bet. you would wonder who approved it when it was a Telfer horse, and they are going so well? It was $40k @ 3.20 or close to that and someone was in the know! Anyway great to see the NZ TAB accepting such bets and now we can obviously look forward to them allowing all the restricted punters on for amounts more than they have been previously. But @Brodie the Brodestar wouldn't take that bet as it is a win bet not a Top 4. Now that's risk averse.... 1 Quote
Brodie Posted Wednesday at 12:09 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 12:09 AM Does anyone actually believe that the TAB actually accepted a $40k bet on a Telfer horse to lose $80k? Personally have major doubts as it just does not align with the amount of risk that they are currently taking. Anything much over a $1000 loss and they are dropping odds so $40k loss?? Smells very fishy to Brodie! Quote
Rangatira Posted Wednesday at 12:37 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:37 AM 24 minutes ago, Brodie said: Does anyone actually believe that the TAB actually accepted a $40k bet on a Telfer horse to lose $80k? Personally have major doubts as it just does not align with the amount of risk that they are currently taking. I am sure it is punter dependent and there is a chance this punter has been reassessed 1 Quote
Gammalite Posted Wednesday at 01:01 AM Posted Wednesday at 01:01 AM 6 minutes ago, Rangatira said: I am sure it is punter dependent and there is a chance this punter has been reassessed Exactly this. All the betting companies want to know their customers. Brodster always wants to remain Anonymous and place whatever large bet he wants with the TAB like he did years ago. A thing of the past Brodie old mate. Of course the betting companies are taking large bets from known players. How do you think Boys Get Paid got to have so many BIG bets. they're known to the business. They will still take BIG BETS if you make yourself known to them and show some loyalty . (Place bets regularly with them at that sort of thing ) Kerry Packer could place million dollar bets with some of his Bookies . The most common is a bit like Boys Get Paid , in that syndicates are made , and place all the bets from the members on a Saturday with a regular front man who uses the betting company (as a 'supporter' and not someone trying to 'fleece them' for as much as they can. lol ) and tries to look after his clients but they win some -lose some. Waterhouse has many clients like that. They can take some pretty Big Bets on that way. Big 1000 dollar+ place bets from an anonymous TAB punter? . Not needed . a thing of the past . Can't blame em' really. why try and deal with that when you can rake in the Big galloping bucks ? lol. even a RICH CASINO limits the even chance bets to $500 a spin . also helps stop those 'Problem Gamblers' spending too much as well. and there's plenty of those. usually parked on Pokies these days though. (they get loyalty rewards as well , the more they spend. a TERRIBLE lure and sad thing really) rewarded for losing? lol. Which is why Horse race turnover has taken a significant downturn. 1 Quote
Rangatira Posted Wednesday at 02:10 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:10 AM 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: Brodster always wants to remain Anonymous and place whatever large bet he wants with the TAB like he did years ago. A thing of the past Brodie old mate. He has been around for a significant amount of time. Change can't be easy. 1 Quote
Rangatira Posted Wednesday at 02:20 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:20 AM 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: Kerry Packer could place million dollar bets with some of his Bookies . Did struggle with an individual but got a satisfying outcome. Kerry Packer’s legendary willingness to gamble led to some of the most incredible casino stories ever heard, and include an epic put down of a multi-millionaire Texan oil baron. Bored by the Texas man’s boorish behaviour at the blackjack tables, Packer called the braggart out over his claimed $100million worth. “I’ll flip you for it,” was Packer’s brutal offer, the Texan suddenly lost for words at the idea of his fortune resting on the toss of a coin. 1 1 Quote
Brodie Posted Wednesday at 03:04 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 03:04 AM 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: Exactly this. All the betting companies want to know their customers. Brodster always wants to remain Anonymous and place whatever large bet he wants with the TAB like he did years ago. A thing of the past Brodie old mate. Of course the betting companies are taking large bets from known players. How do you think Boys Get Paid got to have so many BIG bets. they're known to the business. They will still take BIG BETS if you make yourself known to them and show some loyalty . (Place bets regularly with them at that sort of thing ) Kerry Packer could place million dollar bets with some of his Bookies . The most common is a bit like Boys Get Paid , in that syndicates are made , and place all the bets from the members on a Saturday with a regular front man who uses the betting company (as a 'supporter' and not someone trying to 'fleece them' for as much as they can. lol ) and tries to look after his clients but they win some -lose some. Waterhouse has many clients like that. They can take some pretty Big Bets on that way. Big 1000 dollar+ place bets from an anonymous TAB punter? . Not needed . a thing of the past . Can't blame em' really. why try and deal with that when you can rake in the Big galloping bucks ? lol. even a RICH CASINO limits the even chance bets to $500 a spin . also helps stop those 'Problem Gamblers' spending too much as well. and there's plenty of those. usually parked on Pokies these days though. (they get loyalty rewards as well , the more they spend. a TERRIBLE lure and sad thing really) rewarded for losing? lol. Which is why Horse race turnover has taken a significant downturn. Brodie is one of many NZ punters that get treated very poorly compared to other punters! It is because of identifying myself that I am restricted as well as other restricted punters! Still very very hard to believe that they took this $40k bet on under the TAB’s current level of risk that they are showing? Quote
Rangatira Posted Wednesday at 03:21 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:21 AM 15 minutes ago, Brodie said: Brodie is one of many NZ punters that get treated very poorly compared to other punters! It is because of identifying myself that I am restricted as well as other restricted punters! Still very very hard to believe that they took this $40k bet on under the TAB’s current level of risk that they are showing? If they like you, they like you ...... shrug!! 1 Quote
Gammalite Posted Wednesday at 03:42 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:42 AM 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: He has been around for a significant amount of time. Change can't be easy. Brodie in his glory days ? 1 2 Quote
Nowornever Posted Wednesday at 07:53 AM Posted Wednesday at 07:53 AM 7 hours ago, Brodie said: Does anyone actually believe that the TAB actually accepted a $40k bet on a Telfer horse to lose $80k? Personally have major doubts as it just does not align with the amount of risk that they are currently taking. Anything much over a $1000 loss and they are dropping odds so $40k loss?? Smells very fishy to Brodie! Absolutely! If this punter has been known to lose big bets in the past then they would be welcomed to place big bets with open arms. It would depend on a few things. Amount of liability in the pool on other runners. The success rate of the punters previous bets. If the punter was an owner of the horse they would be afforded some special treatment and also a few % over the figure quoted, so they might get 3.50 instead of 3.20 as an example depending on a few things like if they were already in an élite program with Entain. The TAB loss could have been higher than 80K if this was the case. Quote
Nowornever Posted Wednesday at 07:59 AM Posted Wednesday at 07:59 AM 6 hours ago, Gammalite said: Of course the betting companies are taking large bets from known players. How do you think Boys Get Paid got to have so many BIG bets. they're known to the business. They will still take BIG BETS if you make yourself known to them and show some loyalty . (Place bets regularly with them at that sort of thing ) In the case of boys get paid I think Entain are using this as a marketing ploy rather than letting them win an obscene amount of money. If they started winning regularly then pretty sure the bets would dry up. Being known to the business, betting big and winning regularly is a sure fire way to get cut off immediately. 1 Quote
Brodie Posted Wednesday at 09:17 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 09:17 AM 1 hour ago, Nowornever said: Absolutely! If this punter has been known to lose big bets in the past then they would be welcomed to place big bets with open arms. It would depend on a few things. Amount of liability in the pool on other runners. The success rate of the punters previous bets. If the punter was an owner of the horse they would be afforded some special treatment and also a few % over the figure quoted, so they might get 3.50 instead of 3.20 as an example depending on a few things like if they were already in an élite program with Entain. The TAB loss could have been higher than 80K if this was the case. If it is a legitimate bet then it just endorses once again just how ethically wrong the TAB acts! They wont let punters loyal to the NZ TAB for decades on go win a reasonable amount! However another punter who is know to them to be a very poor punter, they allow them the opportunity to lose another $40k? And yet they advertise that they are concerned for those that lose a lot of money? Concerned my xxxx, they are only there to protect the yield and their own salary. Quote
Nowornever Posted Wednesday at 09:34 AM Posted Wednesday at 09:34 AM 17 minutes ago, Brodie said: If it is a legitimate bet then it just endorses once again just how ethically wrong the TAB acts! They wont let punters loyal to the NZ TAB for decades on go win a reasonable amount! However another punter who is know to them to be a very poor punter, they allow them the opportunity to lose another $40k? And yet they advertise that they are concerned for those that lose a lot of money? Concerned my xxxx, they are only there to protect the yield and their own salary. Correct Quote
Rangatira Posted Wednesday at 10:09 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:09 AM 51 minutes ago, Brodie said: Concerned my xxxx Foot? Quote
paleface adios Posted Wednesday at 06:08 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:08 PM 15 hours ago, Brodie said: Brodie is one of many NZ punters that get treated very poorly compared to other punters! Don't they offer you any cream cakes anymore? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted Wednesday at 07:05 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:05 PM 9 hours ago, Brodie said: And yet they advertise that they are concerned for those that lose a lot of money? Concerned my xxxx, they are only there to protect the yield and their own salary. Isn't that how Sleeper selling works or even a bakery? The bakery isn't worried about your obesity - "would you like another cream donut with that custard square?" 2 Quote
Brodie Posted Wednesday at 09:43 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 09:43 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Isn't that how Sleeper selling works or even a bakery? The bakery isn't worried about your obesity - "would you like another cream donut with that custard square?" To be fair Chief, is anyone worried about obesity in the Western World? it is more a pandemic crisis than this Climate Change thing! Edited Wednesday at 09:43 PM by Brodie Quote
paleface adios Posted Wednesday at 10:13 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:13 PM 27 minutes ago, Brodie said: To be fair Chief, is anyone worried about obesity in the Western World? it is more a pandemic crisis than this Climate Change thing! Me old mate don't think tab wants you to injected money into them they just want you to get covid injection Quote
Brodie Posted yesterday at 01:22 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:22 AM 3 hours ago, paleface adios said: Me old mate don't think tab wants you to injected money into them they just want you to get covid injection They out if luck there! People are becoming more and more aware of what is going on now, since the Covid scam! 1 Quote
Brodie Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Great that the TAB are advising us of these so called big bets. Some are not big bets when you compare it to the 40k last week! Not sure whether these big bets are coming from many different punters, but all I can say is there are some very poor punts being made! $13k On Music Mistress at $2.20 drawn 9 in that field was in my humble opinion to be not worth the risk whatsoever! Anyway not my money and the TAB will be happy to allow that punter on for what they want, whereas some other punters are left to battle to get what they can on! Come On TAB, play fair and if you are allowing some on for $13k or $40k, would be only fair to let all punters on for realistic amounts. Increase turnover and get the harness industry flourishing! Edited 4 hours ago by Brodie 1 Quote
Nowornever Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Brodie said: Great that the TAB are advising us of these so called big bets. Some are not big bets when you compare it to the 40k last week! Not sure whether these big bets are coming from many different punters, but all I can say is there are some very poor punts being made! $13k On Music Mistress at $2.20 drawn 9 in that field was in my humble opinion to be not worth the risk whatsoever! Anyway not my money and the TAB will be happy to allow that punter on for what they want, whereas some other punters are left to battle to get what they can on! Come On TAB, play fair and if you are allowing some on for $13k or $40k, would be only fair to let all punters on for realistic amounts. Increase turnover and get the harness industry flourishing! Letting that same punter give some back. Quote
Brodie Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Nowornever said: Letting that same punter give some back. So why not let some of the restricted punters on for reasonable amounts to see if they can pluck $ off them? At the end of the day the odds are always in favour of the TAB? Where is their sporting spirit?? Quote
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