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South Island Trainers Premiership 2025

Murray Fish

By Murray Fish
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34 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Our stats all round are appalling. 

sadly so...  especially so if you are say trying to research wins by trainers etc (as I have mentioned before) when they first set up the horse database it was decided to only start from 88/89! when it wasn't going to be that difficult to load  in all the races/horses where there were records of! 

Talking wins and strike rates, just try and see the wins of NZ most successful ever Trainer!  a current win ratio of 20...

also, a better win rate doesn't actually mean that the owner might be paying less, as shown by perhaps the best ever trainers ratio! it didn't mean that the horse was not in work! :)

also, are the Tab offering odds?  and how are the wins for Team Orange, I not that last season they mentioned all the SI wins that the stable had...

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3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Who's that?  Rogie?

yip :)  the LR site says he has 70 in work for 13 W's, I recall the standard comparison suggested by a old school scribe that a ratio of  even ratio of w to starters was a true indication of skills..

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25 minutes ago, Murray Fish said:

also, a better win rate doesn't actually mean that the owner might be paying less, as shown by perhaps the best ever trainers ratio! it didn't mean that the horse was not in work! :)

 

Not a specific individual owner but that's where a lot of owners now spread the risk over a number of horses.

A friend of mine has shares in a number of horses and the good ones make up for the bad ones and overall they have an enjoyable hobby for very little cost.  Recently one of them was sold - a two win horse from 11 starts but no return for the last 7.  So a strike rate of 5.5 BUT although talented wouldn't put in on race day.  Some trainers would have played it out for another full season or even two.

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9 hours ago, TAB For Ever said:

If it's such a big problem finding a race for a horse why do they continue to keep on importing horses from the North Island ,

gee, and here is me thinking you knew all the 'rules' of things racing!  as in "the best way to improve a horses chance of winning is getting new owners!" :)

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Oops, a couple of my posts intended for here ended up in the Ascot thread.

Anyway, life time, Bart Cummings had a 13.5% win strike rate. That would do me.

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2 hours ago, Wandering Eyes said:

Actually the South Island Premiership is a no contest at the moment

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As mentioned in the lead post "not to sure were Team Orange fit in to this sort of thing?"

thanks for that

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