TAB Bet Deposit Match?

[curious]

6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

But more profitable.

Sure if they can get away with it and recapture the predicted overseas revenue. As I've said, I think they've pulled the wrong rein here but only time will tell.

[curious]

8 minutes ago, hesi said:

Are there any wagering sites that have a field that automatically displays the % for each market listed.

Is that something Entain should do?

Doubt Entain would want to but most do. Oamaru today with market %s. https://www.punters.com.au/odds-comparison/horse-racing/new-zealand/oamaru_319163/

[curious]

That said, market % doesn't matter much to me. It's where I can get the better price at overs. Why would I back the All Blacks tomorrow at $1.30 if I wanted to if I can get a 30% better return elsewhere?

As a punter, I'm not here to finance Entain or NZ racing.

Edited 2 hours ago by curious

[Chief Stipe]

13 minutes ago, curious said:

As a punter, I'm not here to finance Entain or NZ racing.

So you'd prefer Slot or Sweepstake races funded by participants?

[curious]

3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

So you'd prefer Slot or Sweepstake races funded by participants?

What? No I'd prefer all races funded by punters as they were a couple of decades ago. Do you include punters when you say participants?

 

[hesi]

1 hour ago, curious said:

That said, market % doesn't matter much to me. It's where I can get the better price at overs. Why would I back the All Blacks tomorrow at $1.30 if I wanted to if I can get a 30% better return elsewhere?

As a punter, I'm not here to finance Entain or NZ racing.

It's the way of the world for any customer of any product.  When you purchase anything, you are always looking for the best deal for yourself.  The welfare of the seller is not your concern.

Buy NZ made, didn't work.

The businesses that can't compete because of Temu etc etc etc

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, curious said:

What? No I'd prefer all races funded by punters as they were a couple of decades ago. Do you include punters when you say participants?

 

But you said you "are not here to fund NZ Racing".  

[curious]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

But you said you "are not here to fund NZ Racing".  

I'm certainly not. Owners and other punters have to do that.

[Chief Stipe]

22 minutes ago, hesi said:

Buy NZ made, didn't work.

The businesses that can't compete because of Temu etc etc etc

Didn't help when successive Labour Governments made the cost of the inputs to manufacturing so expensive or unattainable.  

23 minutes ago, hesi said:

It's the way of the world for any customer of any product.  When you purchase anything, you are always looking for the best deal for yourself.  The welfare of the seller is not your concern.

Perhaps but what business gives their product for no cost to someone else to make money out of?  Easy to set a "competitive price" when you aren't paying the true cost of the product.  Even in free markets there are rules against that.

[Chief Stipe]

3 minutes ago, curious said:

I'm certainly not. Owners and other punters have to do that.

So you want the rest of us to fund your hobby?  One I might add where you are happy to race a horse that wins one race in 20.

[curious]

11 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

So you want the rest of us to fund your hobby?  One I might add where you are happy to race a horse that wins one race in 20.

My hobby of racing horses doesn't depend on whether or not they win one race in 20 or never even win one. That is as you say a hobby. For fun. Sometimes just to rehab horses or whatever.  I'd prefer to win a few of  course which can add to the fun. As a punter though, I aim to win, and to do that, I'll get the best odds I can, with no intention to finance anyone else, including any bookies, in the process. After all, that's what pays for my aforementioned hobby.

Edited 19 minutes ago by curious

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, curious said:

My hobby of racing horses doesn't depend on whether or not they win one race in 20 or never even win one. That is as you say a hobby. For fun. Sometimes just to rehab horses or whatever.  I'd prefer to win a few of  course which can add to the fun. As a punter though, I aim to win, and to do that, I'll get the best odds I can, with no intention to finance anyone else, including any bookies, in the process. After all, that's what pays for my aforementioned hobby.

Don't you see the contradiction?  Your free market win at all costs punting funds your benevolent non-competitive social good.  I'm the opposite I want any horse I own to win as much as it can and only have a wager for entertainment.  The latter probably funds your wagering winnings although I only bet on the NZTAB so probably not.