Newmarket Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Well…. Don’t want to sound like Forbury, but his drive on Don Juan was poor, why on earth go back to the inside, real brain fade. Before that, a horse ended up with foot in another cart🫣, amazing anyone bet on these races, as surprisingly pools usually not bad… I think the reason, these amateur drivers have plenty of family and friends, who have no idea what will happen… so easily put a few bucks on anything…. and of course, the bet on red brigade… 1 Quote
Nowornever Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Yes not very often every decision a driver makes in a race is the wrong one but shows it can be done. 1st mistake was not coming off the fence with a lap to go (Not very often you win from further than four back the fence) he would have had the 1x1 for the whole last lap. Runs first or second. Blocked everywhere he went from the 800 to the post. Why is Origin not off 20m in the trot?   2 Quote
the galah Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Well…. Don’t want to sound like Forbury, but his drive on Don Juan was poor, why on earth go back to the inside, real brain fade. Before that, a horse ended up with foot in another cart🫣, amazing anyone bet on these races, as surprisingly pools usually not bad… I think the reason, these amateur drivers have plenty of family and friends, who have no idea what will happen… so easily put a few bucks on anything…. and of course, the bet on red brigade… I backed don juan as well. i know i had sworn off betting on amateur races,but i've been following don juan waiting for the right race and today i thought it looked a certainyon recent form. all he had to do was take any opportunity to get to the outside. well i hadn;'t factored in the b willmott facotor. Well,b wilmott down the straight had 250m to come off the inside,but no he thought to himself,lets sit here and get boxed in. Then when c wigg tried to push off when there was no room on a horse who's known for often going rough under duress,don juan got a lucky run, as c wiggs horse understandably fell over and took the horse bedside don juan out as well,presenting don juan a gap. so what did b wilmott do,well he pulled out but that incredibly stupidly with 400m to run,made a decision to pocket himself again by going inside behind a wall of horses instead of coming outside where even blind freddy could see there was a clear run. Well again b willmott had some luck, as the horse that looked to have pocketed him in, dropped off 200m later,again allowing a run to the outside,so what did b wilmott do,he again went inside . I'm with you newmarket,that was just shocking driving. It doesn't get much worse. my wife reckons he wasn't trying. She said no ones that bad. But i think in this case,he was trying and it was just incompetence.  Edited 15 hours ago by the galah 1 Quote
Brodie Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Watched the replay and I think that Mike Maynard was more to blame! He was driving Mack Pack and in the straight he ran in a couple of cart widths and made no gap for Don Juan! Moral of the story as we all know, keep out of wagering on Amateur races lol Bigger issue is the tote pools they are shockingly low and they deserve what they get the TAB!! They are killing the wagering and fixed odds betting amounts being able to be won now are the worst they have ever been! Waste of time now, they are not Bookies at all! Quote
the galah Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Watched the replay and I think that Mike Maynard was more to blame! He was driving Mack Pack and in the straight he ran in a couple of cart widths and made no gap for Don Juan! Moral of the story as we all know, keep out of wagering on Amateur races lol Bigger issue is the tote pools they are shockingly low and they deserve what they get the TAB!! They are killing the wagering and fixed odds betting amounts being able to be won now are the worst they have ever been! Waste of time now, they are not Bookies at all! personally i've watched it a few times and place no blame whatsoever on maynard, for willmitt not getting a run .. Sure maynard came in slightly and m house came out slighty,but why did wilmott not just come to the outside with 400m to go and take the clear run and why did he not come to the outside of maynard with 200m to go and take a run you could driver 3 buses through. B willmott used to be one of the better amateur drivers but when he went professional he drove the same each time,just pull back,look to take the shortest route and never move up and while the horses he was driving were of limited ability,you could tell the horses weren't trying for him.. i made comment to someone about that a year or so ago. To be honest i just thought he had such a negative approach to his driving because he thought he was on horses with limited abilty,but,he hasn't changed even now hes getting some better drives.Its like he lost all his confidence when driving in the professional races.He needs to drive to give is horses a chance to place by positioning them in the best spots, when those spots present themselves. And when you have a choice of pulling out and being 100% certain to get a clear run,you do that instead of taking the option where you have a 25% chance of getting a clear run.its not as if he had to make spilt second decisions that driver s have to often,today he had 10-15 seconds time to think about the 3 decisions he could have made in that race today and made 3 very poor tactical decisions.  oh well,i may be analysing him harshly,but i think i'm just being realistic.. really punters should expect better.  Edited 13 hours ago by the galah 1 Quote
Newmarket Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago Dont think you could blame anyone but Blair, bad luck Galah…. It was certainly gonna be in the finish if it had stayed wide. Probably watched birdshit brosan do it in the 80s…. and though let’s have a go 🤠1 Quote
Brodie Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Dont think you could blame anyone but Blair, bad luck Galah…. It was certainly gonna be in the finish if it had stayed wide. Probably watched birdshit brosan do it in the 80s…. and though let’s have a go 🤠There are average drives in most races and we have to expect them in Amateur races. Took me a awhile, but now keep off them as very hard to predict how they are going to be run. 1 Quote
the galah Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 22 minutes ago, Brodie said: There are average drives in most races and we have to expect them in Amateur races. Took me a awhile, but now keep off them as very hard to predict how they are going to be run. yes your right ,some of the amateurs are hard to predict. But we don't criticise average drives. They have to be really poor to get a special specific mention on here,except maybe forbury's posts. Edited 11 hours ago by the galah 2 Quote
the galah Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago c wigg given a 4 month suspension for making her own horse fall over and m maynard 1 month for running in up the final straight. They do seem to penalise the amateurs for too long in my opinion. 4 months is a long time . neither does anything to change my opinions expressed earlier in this thread. Quote
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