Brodie Posted Tuesday at 08:32 AM Posted Tuesday at 08:32 AM Midnight Diamond race 5 Addington Friday night - $17 into $5?.? Has someone put next to nothing on it to win to shorten it into massive unders? Does anyone know id any legitimate reason why someone would be punting this horse the way it has been performing? Yes Ross Houghton is now training it but can anyone see why it has plummeted into $5 over 2600metres as it has never shown much staying ability in its career when Robbie Holmes was training it! Must have been given something for it to be a massive market mover on what it has shown previously in its career to date! 1 Quote
Nowornever Posted Tuesday at 10:09 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:09 PM Has ability and I backed it a few times at big money for Robbie. Not surprised to see it shorten but you are right they over react and it does not take much money to move the market. 2 Quote
Brodie Posted yesterday at 03:14 AM Author Posted yesterday at 03:14 AM 5 hours ago, Nowornever said: Has ability and I backed it a few times at big money for Robbie. Not surprised to see it shorten but you are right they over react and it does not take much money to move the market. Has been going poorly for a long time! Hasnt shown much staying prowess and if it wins the way it has been going, you would be needing to ask some serious questions! Quote
Spatchcock Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Brodie, Is someone not allowed to back a horse without your approval? Clearly the new stable think he's working well enough to win?? Quote
the galah Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago gee its in to $6.50 and a $1.60 a place. i'm a bit like nowornever. I too have backed it,actually in its last 4 starts. It just never had much luck and last start it was taken on and in the end the driver handed up the lead with 900m to go and i felt that wasn't a great move and the horse just knocked off a bit then.It may have run a place otherwise. But $6.50 its now paying is too short for mine. The fields a handy field,but on its best form for r holmes could place. it always gave me the impression its a trier and willing so it wouldn't surprise me if it had been working well for the new stable. I would guess it used to be a good track worker for homes as well. That harriets moment does have clearly the best recent form,but its only paying $2.30 now which is not a price i would back it at myself as its a bit one paced and needs to be driven with a bit of aggression in a race like that to ensure the race is run to suit and thats not ideal. that race theres 3 or 4 payinga bit over the odds,i guess due to the support for the 2 favorites. actually i always thought that midnight diamond would be an ideal manawatu horse once those meetings start up again. The likes of house or dickson could win $20-30,000 over 6 months up there if it ran up to its capabilties and maintained good manners. Quote
Brodie Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago 6 hours ago, Spatchcock said: Brodie, Is someone not allowed to back a horse without your approval? Clearly the new stable think he's working well enough to win?? Of course anyone can back what they like, Spatchcock! So we have a change of trainer and training technique, but do you really believe that the way the horse was going in all of its last starts that it could win? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Out to $6.50 now. You'd be on at that price @Brodie woops you are only a place better. 1 Quote
Brodie Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago 3 hours ago, the galah said: gee its in to $6.50 and a $1.60 a place. i'm a bit like nowornever. I too have backed it,actually in its last 4 starts. It just never had much luck and last start it was taken on and in the end the driver handed up the lead with 900m to go and i felt that wasn't a great move and the horse just knocked off a bit then.It may have run a place otherwise. But $6.50 its now paying is too short for mine. The fields a handy field,but on its best form for r holmes could place. it always gave me the impression its a trier and willing so it wouldn't surprise me if it had been working well for the new stable. I would guess it used to be a good track worker for homes as well. That harriets moment does have clearly the best recent form,but its only paying $2.30 now which is not a price i would back it at myself as its a bit one paced and needs to be driven with a bit of aggression in a race like that to ensure the race is run to suit and thats not ideal. that race theres 3 or 4 payinga bit over the odds,i guess due to the support for the 2 favorites. actually i always thought that midnight diamond would be an ideal manawatu horse once those meetings start up again. The likes of house or dickson could win $20-30,000 over 6 months up there if it ran up to its capabilties and maintained good manners. I see Dancingonmoonlight now own it, obviously bought for a broodmare? Clearly someone knows something about it and maybe it has grown a leg with the new trainer. Looked at all its trials and races over the past few months and hasnt shown much in those starts! Quote
Spatchcock Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 5 hours ago, Brodie said: I see Dancingonmoonlight now own it, obviously bought for a broodmare? With DOML now standing Gimpanzee and Tactical Landing this season, I would say that's a safe bet. I'm no form expert like you Brodster, but it certainly has not been going well and generally the Dunns will get the best out of most horses. Quote
Brodie Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago 7 hours ago, Spatchcock said: With DOML now standing Gimpanzee and Tactical Landing this season, I would say that's a safe bet. I'm no form expert like you Brodster, but it certainly has not been going well and generally the Dunns will get the best out of most horses. Robbie Holmes previously trained Midnight Diamond! Quote
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